Do teachers have delays and early dismissals?

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  1. DreamerSeeker

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    I'm a new substitute teacher working my way to becoming a regular teacher, and I was just wondering if teachers get to have early dismissals just like the students or if teachers are still required to be at school for their full regular hours regardless?
    Also, for wintertime, if your school gets delayed or even canceled, are teachers still required to come in and work their regular hours?
     
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    In the places I have worked, early dismissal for students meant faculty meetings for teachers. In my state, schools are usually only cancelled for hurricanes and teachers were not required to come in.
     
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    As a new sub, I suggest that you talk to whoever calls the subs, and make sure that you know their policy. Traditionally, here, if there is a delayed opening, the subs and other teachers also have a delay, although maybe not as long as the student delays. If early dismissals are planned, such as before a break, subs go when the rest of the teachers go, unless they let you go earlier. Subs, here, don't go to staff meetings, and are cleared to leave once the students are gone. This is liable to be different from one district to another, so ask at every district you sub in to make sure you get the right information.
     
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    Here is how it works for us:
    • Scheduled Early Dismissal is for teachers to have meetings, so kids go home and we stay.
    • Early Dismissal for Weather/Emergency—everybody goes home.

    • Late Start due to weather—we all arrive late.

    • No School for kids sometimes means not for us either, but we do sometimes have work days. Usually that’s only for times when main roads are clear, but we have secondary roads unsafe for busses. We can only do a certain number of those days.
    • DH’s school also has NTI days. Everyone works from home. He has to be “on the clock” from home during regular school hours. Kids work online.
     
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    In my district if there is an early dismissal for students, it's because teachers have PD, so yes, we have to stay.

    Teachers don't have to report on snow days. We've never had a delayed start policy until this year (previously the only options were cancel or stay open). We've had one delay so far and I along with many others came in 90 minutes after our regular contract time. The superintendent sent an email saying the policy was that staff are to arrive as close as possible to regular time on those days, allowing "professional courtesy for a small amount of tardiness due to safety." I find that extremely disrespectful- so you've said the roads aren't safe for students, but teachers are expected to drive (much longer distances) on them for NO reason other than the fact that you're afraid they'll get 90 "free" minutes? I wish our union would address this. It's also the policy in nearby districts. I don't get it at all.
     
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    Around here, subs don't stay for PD or staff meetings. At the beginning of the year there is usually half a day that runs you through any changes, but during the school year, when kids leave the subs are right behind them, for the most part. I always found it would take me about 20 minutes to write my notes and comments.

    I should probably note the two types of subs and how they are different. If all you have is a sub certificate, sometimes with just 60 college credits, it is unlikely you will become a long term sub until you get some experience. If you are a fully licensed teacher with standard certificates, you will get the same fee per day (more or less), but when looking for long term subs, this is where schools will look first, because they know the drill, and they can do grade cards and write lesson plans. Additionally, here in NJ, there is no restrictions on this teacher in terms of how many days one can legally sub in the same classroom in consecutive days. Those subs doing a long term gig would be expected to follow the time schedule that the classroom teachers follow, usually including staff meetings, etc. Delays and early dismissal pretty much are after the kids are gone, so are the teachers, especially the ones with long drives, if it is snow or ice coming down. If in doubt, check with all of the districts that you sub at so you will have the correct information.
     
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    That is something to ask when you are hired. Is there a reason you need to know ahead of time?
     
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    I don't think delayed start has ever come up.

    If it's a snow day/bad weather day, no one comes in.

    We have regular short days for the kids, but that is so teachers can get in their full planning/meeting/PLC time.
     
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    Early release is for some sort of teacher in-service.
    Weather related situations we followed the students but often still had to make up the time.
     
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    If your district has snow days built into its schedule then you won't have to make them up.Delayed starts still count as a full day in our districts. Usually 2 hour delays sometimes 3 in certain areas.
     
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    Because I worked at three different districts, I learned to make sure that someone from each district would call me in case of a delay or cancellation. After a while, you are "remembered" and someone always calls. Many districts now go to a text blaster kind of thing that you add your name to when hired, which automatically alerts your cell phone about cancellations, delays. It is a god send not to show up to a totally locked building after working to plow out your own drive!
     
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    Substitute teachers work the same hours that students are in school. If it’s an early release day, they leave when students leave. Teachers have meetings or trainings and work till their regular time.
    For delay openings - teachers / subs and students all arrive at the same time.
     
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    Sic your union on them! :) We did 2 yrs ago and no longer deal w/ that! If it is unsafe for kids, it is for teachers too!
     
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    OP is probably just curious and wants to know what they can anticipate.
     

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