Do principals let you know when you don't get the job?

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  1. TeacherJ4life

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    My friend recently went on an interview and was wondering if principals call you to let you know that you did not receive the position. When the interview concluded, he said the next step is sitting down with just him and he will call her to let her know the outcome. What do you guys think that means?:whistle:
    I have no advice for her since I have no experience with such a situation so I told her I would post it here:D
     
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    Ummmm............. very rarely. I never understood that. Why don't administrators have the common decency to even tell us ?
     
  4. TeacherJ4life

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    So do you think by what he said that he would be contacting her? I feel so bad since she is a nervous wreck.
     
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    Most principals I've interviewed with have called to let me I didn't get the position, though there have been some that haven't.
     
  6. TeacherJ4life

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    Oh really! I hope she does not get that phone call, but at least she can know if she needs to proceed with other interviews or not.
     
  7. Caesar753

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    In my experience, it's really a toss-up as to whether the principal calls back or not.

    Your friend should keep applying, just in case.

    Good luck to her! :)
     
  8. Newguy

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    I'm in the same situation. I can't believe the lack of courtesy that is displayed by simply not returning a call/email. They didn't say yes but then they didn't say no. So what to do? I'm learning I shouldn't be putting all my eggs in this basket and have proceeded with looking elsewhere. I'm sad, but something MUST be wrong if they haven't called to even let me know when a decsion will be made.
    Good luck.
     
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    In my district, they send out no-thanks letters. I once got one the same day I interviewed!
     
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    The very first interview I went on, the principal, who was very nice, told me she would call me back either way by a certain date (sometime in the next week). She didn't call.

    She did call me a couple of months later about another position that had opened up, but I already had my current job by then, which I know is a better fit for me anyway. As they say, everything happens for a reason...
     
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    that sucks! you know it was an inside candidate...and they just interviewed you to follow protocol!
     
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    they really don't feel obligated to do so

    As general rule, I had very few people call to tell me they did not want me. It is annoying to me, because you wait for the call...and when you hear that person say, "Another candidate was selected" you want to attack them! Why! didn't you like me? And you are supposed to be professional and say, "Thank you for calling me." What for?! So you can hope and pray they will find out that person they hired didn't work out, and now you are their second choice?

    that happened to me!

    I would rather get a letter. Then I won't worry about them any more.

    Usually, you get nothing.

    Funny, this year I got a email from a director who thought she was emailing her boss.

    "I interviewed her, but it doesn't seem like she was willing to leave her present job."

    Why the heck didn't you call ME and ask me if you felt that way?!
     
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    I've had every principal I interviewed with (2 in all) call me to let me know that I didn't get the job.
     
  14. Master Pre-K

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    forgive me for hijacking..

    but isn't it like the date that didn't go well? But you thought it was good?

    "Hi, this is Mark. I wanted to let you think you are nice, but don't want to see you any more. Take it easy. "

    :(
     
  15. buck8teacher

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    It really depends on the principal. I had some principals call me once they made their decision, so I knew what to do next professionally. I also had principals call me or send me an letter WEEKS after the fact. I've only had one person send a letter and I thought it was very cold and impersonal, considering I was an internal applicant in the district.

    Good luck to your friend!
     
  16. Master Pre-K

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    usually you find out when they walk the new person around...or they take the job posting down...
     
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    Sometimes it backfires...I interviewed for a position, got a rejection letter, and then, when the first person didn't take the job, I got called for a second interview. I told them, "why am I interviewing for a job that I already got rejected for?" That's when they told me that they had selected someone else who turned them down. I wasn't really interested in the position after I had interviewed anyway, so I just turned down the second interview...So, I think often times the principal won't notify applicants just in case something falls through...but of course it could also be that they are just too busy/not interested enough to respond to everyone.
     
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    Usually, municipal systems have a policy that they don't send the rejection letter until the person who they offered it to has actually accepted, had his reference and criminal background check, and signed his/her contract. That takes a while. They do this so incase the first choice falls through, they haven't sent a rejection letter to the second (and third) choice. Nobody wants to know they are a second choice.

    More often than not, you receive no word if you don't get the teaching job. The same is true in most industries. No one wants to call 10-12 people who interviewed and say "Sorry, you didn't get the job." and then have to answer questions like "What could I have done differently?" "Why wasn't I selected?" etc. from the now-rejected candidate.

    I know when I was an administrator and would call to tell people they didn't get the job, some would sob uncontrollably -- others would actually argue with you, saying no! I'm the best person -- you should have picked me, you @$$hole! Some would actually curse you out! (I'm serious! It has happened more than once.) I stopped calling people who didn't get the job because of the crying and cursing. I'm not kidding! I started telling people during the interview -- If you are selected, you'll hear from me by XX/XX/XXXX date. If you don't hear from me by then, you will know that someone else was selected.

    Some send HR generated letters. Most just don't contact at all, and let silence give you the message.

    Some are so inconsiderate, that if you email them and you weren't selected, they just don't bother to respond. Often, they just aren't good at writing a "let you down easy" email. If you call, they don't take your call, and never return it either. To me that is a sure sign of someone you don't really want to work for anyway.

    There are two sides to this story. I've been a superintendent who used to interview hundreds of applicants. You can't imagine the time and effort it took to just send letters out to them to say "you didn't get the job." and to respond to their phone calls (this was before email was popular.) You had to maintain lists of all the applicants interviewed, you had to keep these for the weeks it took for the selected applicant's criminal background and reference checks to come through, then you had to have your secretary personalize these letters and send them out -- trying to remember which ones had called you and you had already broken the news to them (no one wants to be rejected TWICE!) It was a ton of paperwork. I can understand why some principals may not have the time or resources to keep up with it.

    What I remember most is that you can't imagine how abusive some of the rejected candidates get! Or the sob-stories they tell you about how you have ruined their lives because now, because they didn't get the job, they are going to lose their house and their car, etc. etc. People who are desperate or distraught can be hard to deal with.

    If you've never been in this situation, you might not realize why they don't call.
     
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    Out of my 5 interviews, I didn't hear from ONLY 1 district. 2 offered me jobs, and the other 2 let me know that I didn't get it.
     
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    I've been on 5 interviews and did not get the job 3 times. Two of those principals sent a letter. They both arrived over a month after the interview. The third principal didn't notify me at all. It's funny, I got a job in her district and she came up to tell me that there would be 4th grade positions at the end of the year if I wanted to switch schools.
     
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    We have the same track record!
     
  22. TeacherJ4life

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    Wow I guess it just depends on the principal.
     
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    yeah, being single and rejected sucks
    being single and out of job is just plain cruel!
    you feel like you are worthless
    it figures..you can't keep a man or a job...
    well, enough about me... :unsure:
     

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