Do elementary teachers make their own time-frame schedule?

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  1. DreamerSeeker

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    Do teachers decide what time frame to teach their subjects or does the school principal (or whoever) tell you what time to teach something?
     
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    It depends on the school. Some schools I have worked at determined what every minute of the day would look like...down to teachers having to teach the same lesson the same way at the same time.
    At the other end of the spectrum, I have been at schools where just the lunch and specials were assigned and the teacher was free to schedule their day as they deemed appropriate.
    Guess which school was an easier fit?!
     
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    The P at our school tells teachers what time the specials, lunch, and recess are at the beginning of the yr. The times change yearly. PT positions...Then all meet and try to get certain days and times worked out. Of course Fri...the last hr is the most coveted time. :) They send him a copy, and he usually OK's it.
    I worked in a different school for a long time that just handed you your schedule on Day 1. It was actually a more fun place because they were very organized and things ran smoother. The P's there were not control freaks, they just had to map it out early because it was a very big school. It is different probably wherever you go.
     
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    Our schedule is entirely mapped out.
     
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    We're sort of mapped out, but it's not strict.
     
  7. MrsC

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    We have some flexibility. Math and Literacy blocks are set in stone because of the need to coordinate Special Ed and ELL support. Anything taught by another teacher--Phys Ed, Music, French, etc.--is scheduled for us.
     
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    I've worked at 3 different districts in 3 different states. In one, it was decided for us, but we had some leeway (for example, reading had to be between 9:30am-11:00am, but I could choose when I taught writing, phonics, guided reading, etc.) The second, it was completely up to me. I loved that.

    The third, it was dictated to the minute! Every single minute of the day was schedule for you, and you were not allowed to vary at all, EVER. If admin came in and you weren't exactly where you were supposed to be, you would be written up immediately. So if Math class was supposed to start at 1:00pm, and the "productive struggle" was supposed to be for 7 minutes, then whole group instruction for 13 minutes, then guided practice for 8 minutes, etc -- if it was 1:08pm, you'd better be just starting your whole group instruction. No variation was allowed. (I hated it! This is just such an awful way to teach.)
     
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    I agree! The school that made us teach like that was ridiculous. My class was the SPED students for the grade level and another teacher had the gifted students. Both of our classes suffered under that P's reign. We finally had enough and the whole grade level threatened a revolt if things weren't changed. The P then allowed us to teach the same concepts but the way we chose. The crazy thing was, this was an IB school where individualism, creative thinking, and curiosity were a unique part of the curriculum. We actually had to threaten to go to the higher powers of the IB organization to get things changed.
     
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    Two of the three schools I've worked in have had a master schedule that dictates when each subject is taught. My first school let teachers do whatever they want, and trying to work with that as a special ed teacher was a nightmare. It's already really difficult even with a master schedule to get everyone's IEP minutes met and make sure no one is missing lunch/recess, specials, or whole group tier 1 literacy/math instruction within multiple grade levels. It was impossible when different teachers within the same grade level were teaching reading and math at drastically different times of the day.
     
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    In the school I am at, I get to choose the time I teach each subject.
     
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    Our district assigns lunch times and exploratory classes to K-4 classes. 5th and 6th grade teachers are assigned a lunch time, but are able to select their exp. class times from a limited list of options (due to block scheduling/cycle rotation set up).
    As far as academics and other relevant school activities go, generally, it is at the discretion at the teacher. That being said, in a special education classroom, your scheduling time frames are a little bit restricted due to related services. (The therapists/specialists choose the time frames for the particular service.)
     
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    The school schedule is set for when recess, lunch, gym & music happen. I decide when I teach the other subjects. Provincially, I am mandated to include each subject for a specific number of minutes, but I plug those subjects into my schedule in a way that makes sense.
     
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    I guess the senior management decides this, in case teachers want to have any change in the schedule they can submit their request, there's no hard rule.
     
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    Hi Missscrimmage, I just saw a post you made from 2014 about keeping half your class and moving to 2nd grade. I was wondering how that worked out with the kids who were put in other classes. Was that strange or did anyone feel left out for not being with you again? I feel really stressed about not taking more of the kids. Were your other kids or parents upset that they weren't in your class with the other kids? How did you end up just keeping half your class and not all? How many total kids were in your class in 2nd? Thank you for any input on how your year went and the above details! I appreciate it!
     
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    Hello, I just posted a reply about moving up grade levels. Somehow it's in this thread but got put under you and one more member. Thank you for any ideas on how it went for you when you moved up to 2nd with half your class. Thank you!
     
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    When I was self contained I taught subjects when I wanted. The only scheduled part were when I went to computer lab and specials. Now that I moved up to 1st and I only teach reading/social studies I am locked into a schedule.
     
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    You team teach in first grade? That’s so young to have multiple teachers. Does it work alright?
     
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    I'm interested in how that works out. I've never seen it lower than 5th grade.
     
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    We start it in third grade here. It works fine to have multiple teachers, but the strict schedule makes it hard to fit in the extras that you are usually able to do with a self-contained class.
     
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    Sorry for the delay in replying. We bought a house and I have been trying to get things settled.

    Yes ma'am we do team teach in first grade. I am not a fan at all. Here is my schedule.
    8-10 homeroom
    10:11:40 my partner
    11:45- 12:30 lunch
    12:30:1:00 computer lab(reading program)
    1:00-2:00 conference
    2:00-2:30 computer in room (math program)
    2:30-3:10 RTI rotating groups.
    3:20 dismiss
    I think I have one of the best schedules in grade level. ;My morning is not disrupted to go to computer lab.
    BUT I would so love to go back to self contained. I feel like I don't know my students as well as I did when we were self contained. I would not recommend for first grade.
     
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    As far as the kids go they do fine. As far as work goes, yes it does minimize the amount of work I have to do since I am only prepping for two subjects. As far as how I like it, I don't. I feel like I am rushed all the time. I feel like I don't have a clear picture of what my kids actually grasp. We are not required to do running records so I didn't for the first semester. When I did one during the 2nd semester I was quite shocked at some of the kids reading levels both good and bad. This was my first year back in 1st grade and I was trying to prove that I was worthy of the move. (long story) Anyway this year I will just do what I know to do and teach to my kids. If it means I am behind in the curriculum then so be it.
     

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