Difference between endorsement and getting certified in a new area

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  1. Pisces

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    What exactly is the difference between getting an endorsement versus getting certified in a 2nd content area?
    I live in Georgia and want to teach computer science next year. I am certified in a science discipline. I want have the option of getting a computer science endorsement or getting another certification. Is one better than the other? (I have 30 credits of computer science coursework complete, if that makes a difference.)
     
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    A "major" is the curriculum within an academic department that leads to a degree. An "endorsement" lists the courses that are required to receive certification to teach a particular subject.

    API defines endorsement as "Documentation that indicates that minimum requirements have been met for additional qualification in the designated area of expertise."

    OP, I know that we through around endorsement and certification as though they are totally interchangeable, but depending on the way teachers are earning the right to teach in these varied fields, it is seldom the same one state to another. Example: I have a full major in my undergraduate degree, classified as a minimum of 30 credits in a logical sequence, with about half of those credits earned as upper level courses. Having that education allows me to sit for the Praxis Content Exam. I must have qualified for the endorsement with education, but need to pass the content exam with a passing exam to earn my certification. The amount of credits and sequences will often be dependent on whether or not it is a K-12 certificate, or a lesser certificate, such as Elem. Ed., or a middle school endorsement (15 credits in the subject matter at college). Once we are proved to have the college credits, and we have passed the requisite Praxis Exam, we are approved, here in NJ, to a provisional teaching certificate. So I was a provisional Biology teacher. Once I was cleared by the state as completing my provisional certificate, all of my provisional certificate became standard certificates in this state. I am now holding 8 standard certificates, which are all based on college education requirements being met, and Praxis exams being passed.

    Different from other states, my certificates will not ever need to be renewed. Let me state, however, that I am tasked with acquiring a minimum of 20 hours of professional development per school year.

    I don't know if this answers your questions.
     
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    As with practically everything else having to do with public education, the ins and outs of the difference between a license and an endorsement will vary from state to state. In California, one gets a single subject credential exactly once, and every additional subject area is added by endorsement - though there are two levels of endorsement (or three? I so don't do credentialing), depending on what one has had to do to qualify and on the level of sophistication of what one means to teach. Obviously vickilyn's experience in New Jersey (and, I think, New York?) is different.

    Pisces, if you want the district in Georgia for which you're currently working NOT to know what you want to do, and if you completed either a bachelor's in teaching in Georgia or a university-based teacher-preparation program in Georgia to get the license you currently hold, you might want to take your question to the licensure experts at that university. (Am I sympathetic to people who just aren't quite ready to "out" their intentions to their employer? Believe it.) But you may feel less obliged to keep your district in the dark, and in that case do please put your questions to the nice people in the district's Human Resources office. If there isn't someone on HR staff whose business it is to ensure that the holder of endorsement X can indeed teach course Y to students at levels Z without incurring the unwelcome attention of either state or federal authorities charged with policing the ranks of the Highly Or Sufficiently Qualified, it would be surprising. At worst, it will surely be the case that someone in HR will be able to point you in the right direction.

    Whoever you ask, what you want is to know (a) EXACTLY what hoops are required for endorsement vs. additional certificate and (b) EXACTLY what the full-on certificate will buy you - in terms of authority to teach the subject matter in Georgia and to teach it to few, some, or all students - that the endorsement won't, and vice versa. I could do some research and make some informed guesses - but with the best will in the world, I cannot hope to give you a Georgian's-eye view of what Georgia requires and allows, and that's what you're lacking.
     
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    20 hours of professional development PER year seems kind of excessive. I’m all for PD, but requiring continual development despite you being a highly qualified teacher and having 8 standard certificates, plus else, says that they think you will somehow become inadequate as an instructor if you don’t go to some seminar to hear the same thing again and again.

    I do PD some years and not others because it gets repetitive after a while. For example, I don’t need to hear that differentiated instruction is important in multiple ways — I know it is and know how to do it in many different ways.
     
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    I can agree with what you are saying, but actually, the PD has never been much of an issue for me. There are so many free webinars, conferences, and courses out there that are right down my alley and I would most certainly be interested in many of them even if PD wasn't required. I think that because I have so many certifications this is a requirement that simply makes it very easy to revisit aspects from many of them, building on what interests me. Fortunately, it is simply 20 hours per year whether you have one certificate or ten. I find it harder to limit learning opportunities than to find new ones that may bore me to tears. In this, I truly feel blessed.
     
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    Gracefully replied, vickilyn.

    Now let's return to the OP's topic, please.
     
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    Nov 19, 2019 at 11:34 AM

    I am currently preparing for the GACE in computer science. It's GA's equivalence of the Praxis II. I am still uncertain as to whether I should do an "endorsement" or "approved area". The difference between the two isn't clear to me, still. I think the term varies from state to state.
     
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    Nov 19, 2019 at 8:09 PM

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    There is no difference in my state.
     

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