CTEL anyone?

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  1. 25YearsIn

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    Good lord, TG, I had forgotten about those! We had'em too. And yes, great for iced tea, which the other females in my family consider a fifth major food group.

    But mimers, you are the brilliant one! If I had only thought to eschew both coffee and tea! Where might we all be today if we had stuck with tequila?
     
  2. TeacherGroupie

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    Tipsier!

    Though, golly, if we're all mixing our own in batches of various sizes, that's proportion, and measurement, and volume, and all sorts of possible word problems:

    "TeacherGroupie is throwing a party for 20. She has 750 ml of reposado, 450 ml of orange liqueur, and unlimited access to limes (in her dreams). If each margarita requires tequila, liqueur and lime juice in the ratio 1.5:1:1, and if each margarita requires 30 ml of lime juice, are her supplies sufficient? Explain your answer."

    - Oh, wait, this was a CTEL thread. Oops.
     
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    Heck no, that isn't sufficient! Well, maybe if all the guests are teatotallers.
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    Well, let's see whether anyone else rises to the bait... or maybe I need to post this on the Multiple Subject Tests subforum?
     
  5. 25YearsIn

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    Don't look at me. I am SO arithmetically challenged. My family has learned not to say the M word in my hearing. Then again, TG, mix up that brew and before long none of us will be able to read it, much less parse it.
     
  6. TeacherGroupie

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    Aw, c'mon, 25YearsIn: I bet you can too do this, if nothing else when you've got the bottles in front of you and it stops being abstract and starts being applied hosting.
     
  7. 25YearsIn

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    Don't bet on it! Especially since, when I host or cook, I have to --hic--sample as I --hic--go.
     
  8. TeacherGroupie

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    Ah: I too like to marinate while cooking...
     
  9. mimers31

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    OK TG: I will give your problem a go.... FIrst of all supplies are not sufficient: If you use 30 ml of lime and the ratio of lime to liqueur is the same, you would also need 30 ml of the liqueur and for 20 drinks you would need 600. So no can do, unless 5 are designated drivers!!! I still have my CSET mind!
     
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    Brava, mimers!
     
  11. 25YearsIn

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    I second that. TG, do you sleep?
     
  12. TeacherGroupie

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    Sometimes I forget to sign off (and for whatever reason, AtoZ seems to have taken to forgetting to sign me off after several hours of no activity). Mostly I'm as nocturnal as I can get away with, especially when the weather's been as it has been in these parts this week (I DO NOT do high temperatures with humidity). And tonight I happen to have taught, and now to be wrestling a rather curious ethical dilemma... but the air is now cooler and the Moscato is beginning to have its effect, and I probably won't be up much longer.

    Maybe.
     
  13. TeacherGroupie

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    Did mimers's explanation make sense to you?
     
  14. 25YearsIn

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    Sure. In the hands of a Good Teacher all things become clear. Thanks, Mimers. (With my luck, I'll get the designated driver slot at your party, TG.)
     
  15. mimers31

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    Thanks! So TG, I have never asked, what do you teach?? I also agree with you on the humidity thing. It does suck!
     
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    And miss out on a skilled and enthusiastic partner in marinating? I think not!
     
  17. 25YearsIn

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    TG--Enthusiastic, yes. Skilled I am not. These days alcohol puts me to sleep, I am afraid. If I can drink two, I'm really doing well. (Gone are golden college nights when I'd rip down five shots of tequila, all 115 pounds of me, then go out to dance for fun. I have a lovely memory of pulling into a parking lot for more tequila, and dancing in the lot with the radio blaring until the only one of us who had an ID came out again. Back to it until the bars closed, then ballet at 9 AM! True story, and more than once. Sheesh! Now I think twice about a second beer.)

    And yes, the humidity does suck--big time. I've just been driven in from our pretty extensive garden by the sun, heat, and ick. Wouldn't even think of being out there normally, but have a deadline today. Long story short, we have had a photographer trying to get a Perfect Cover Shot. What WE get out of it is a timely plug for the yearly garden tour I help organize for charity and on which we exhibit. And THIS tour is for strictly do-it-yourself- gardeners. He's already been here twice...for hours. Thought he had it. No. He's coming back again tonight. That's fine, but at this time of year cloudless means sizzling. My So white-Irish skin is already cooked. Arrrgh!
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

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    Knowing not to get sozzled counts as skill in my book... Never did shots: the tequila/rum/vodka/brandy I could afford as a more-than-usually-broke college student, I couldn't stomach neat. I tried chugging a beer exactly once, and my nasal passages were even sorrier than the rest of me was - heck, I can't even chug a 7-Up.

    Hope the garden guy will have gotten what he needs without you getting too much more barbecued.
     
  19. 25YearsIn

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    Oh, so do I. Falling back now on the latte--iced.
     
  20. TeacherGroupie

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    Thai tea, anyone?
     
  21. 25YearsIn

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    ca phe sua da for me, please.
     
  22. TeacherGroupie

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    Okay, TeacherGroupie will publicly admit to not knowing something. Whazzat?
     
  23. 25YearsIn

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    Well, it's Vietnamese: French-pressed, s-t-r-o-n-g coffee (ca phe?) on ice, with some sweetened condensed milk. A grown-up version of a Starbuck's iced latte. With whip. Just ab fab when made correctly.
     
  24. TeacherGroupie

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    OooOOooo! I'd sort of thought it might be Vietnamese, and your guess on the etymology is almost certainly spot on (you gotta love Vietnamese spelling). Have to keep an eye out for that...
     
  25. mimers31

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    So TG, is there a reason you are ignoring my question as to what you teach? Top secret? :)
     
  26. TeacherGroupie

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    Teachers.
     
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    oh okay. makes sense :)
     
  28. Exclaimation Po

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    Ok, I realize this is an old-ish post, but what is the CTEL and how would someone know they need to take it?
     
  29. TeacherGroupie

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    If your credential program includes CLAD or BCLAD training - that's Cultural, Language and Academic Diversity - you don't need to worry about CTEL (which supplants the old CLAD exam). The credential programs at most CSUs have included CLAD coursework for several years now.
     
  30. Exclaimation Po

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    Awesome! I just graduated from CSU San Marcos, and I know I'm CLAD credentialed.

    I'm just excited that I don't have to take another stupid test! (as long and I pass the evil RICA)
     
  31. TeacherGroupie

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    Hold off on RICA till you've taken the relevant reading instruction methodology classes - and maybe even till you've done a little student teaching - and you should do fine.
     
  32. Exclaimation Po

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    I took the RICA in June. I've also finished all my course work and my student teaching.
     
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    Oh, okay. Your post #70 made me think that was still ahead of you. Well, congratulations, then!
     
  34. Exclaimation Po

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    TeacherGroupie, what I should have said was that I graduated from CSU San Marcos with my teaching credential in May! I got my BA in social science 10 years ago. I'm a big dork!
     
  35. TeacherGroupie

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    Don't mind me: summer heat fries my brain.
     
  36. fleadarling

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    CLAD CTEL suggestions????

    If you took the CLAD, do you have any suggestions for sample questions or study guides besides the Azusa site and the official CTEL site???? Thanks if you have any suggestions. I took the 60 hour CLAD course (now called CTEL). Felicia
     
  37. 25YearsIn

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    Hi, Felicia. I just took the CTEL. The questions on the "official" site exactly reflect the test content, question difficulty, and question style. There is one test prep company out there advertising CTEL prep (the one that promises your money back if you don't pass or aren't happy?) Their test is waaaay out of the loop. Save your money. I don't know of any other prep materials out there, since CTEL has only been given twice. But if you aren't confident, then I highly recommend the Diaz-Rico/Weed Crosscultural Language and Academic Development Handbook 3rd Edition (yes, it's really worth getting the 3rd edition.) I didn't take any classes, just studied (yes, studied) this book, and passed all three tests in one day on the first go. I'd also recommend that you brush up on your essay skills if you haven't done much on-demand writing. Again, you can practically predict what the essay topics will be. You'll want each constructed response to have a clear focusing idea, specific and relevant examples, and clear and coherent ties to theory. (You don't have to mention names and works, but you will want to show what your various recommendations will do for your students so that the reader knows that they are based on some aspect of the research that currently drives teaching models.) Again, their model essays are clear in this regard. All in all, I found it to be an interesting test, although taking all three sections in the same big gulp was a bit fatiguing. Take breaks and bring food.
     
  38. fleadarling

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    Thanks

    Thanks for your detailed advice about the test. I have read some chapters in that book. Maybe I should just buy it and read the whole thing. Yeah... it's too bad they don't make the test easier to take in parts--by offering it more frequently.

    Felicia
     
  39. 25YearsIn

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    I realized after I posted that you might be asking about the CLAD test, which is still given, providing you passed one or two other sections of it within the past five years. I happen to have taken two of the three sections of that one as well (unfortunately for me, six plus years ago, hence the recent CTEL. Grrrr.) And they are different. However, in both cases the "official" test questions fairly reflect the question style of each test. For the most part, the CTEL is less technical than it is practical. You can use your common sense. As to whether or not you should buy the book, that depends. Do you feel prepared after looking at the practice tests on the official site? Whatever you decide to do about purchasing the book, I'd read the last sections of it, at least. Their "take" on what it means to live in a multicultural society is worth the price of the ticket, IMHO, and should be required reading period, as I believe I've already posted somewhere on this thread. Again IMHO, it's information worth repeating.
     
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    Hi:

    Actually, I did read that part of the book on culture. That is the one part of the test about which I feel 100%. Could you please tell me what "IMHO" stands for?

    Thanks,

    Felicia
     

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