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  1. confused ss

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    Does anyone know if there is a way not to take the CSET. I have taken all three test and passed 2 of the 3. I am not going to be able to finish my credentials this semester if I can't find a way around it. Does anyone know if there is something I can do?
     
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  3. TeacherGroupie

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    Which CSET? If it's multiple subjects, then the answer is no: there's no way to avoid taking it.

    If it's single subject, then there's a workaround - but you might not like it, because it involves taking coursework pretty much equivalent to the major.

    Where do you seem to be getting stuck?
     
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    multiple subject
     
  5. TeacherGroupie

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    Which subtest is giving you grief?

    By the way, that isn't a basic skills test (like CBEST): rather, it's a subject-matter exam, and you can find LOTS of threads about it in the Multiple Subject Tests subforum. You can navigate there using the Forum Jump tool below or by clicking on the blue Examinations for Teachers link near the top of this page.
     
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    The History section is the problem. There is just too much info to study.

    Do you know the rules about student teaching? Do you know if there is a rule about when the scores need to be in before starting student teaching? Thanks so much for all your help.
     
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    Good question, and I'm afraid I don't know the answer.

    What have you been doing or using to study history?
     
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    I have been using the book. I am not very good at history and since there is so much info covered it is hard to learn all of it.
     
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    History was very difficult for me as well. I created a bunch of timelines to help me get the big picture. Maybe that would help you as well. Then, I had a friend just ask me questions all day long for a week...literally..but it worked!

    As far as your question, your credential department at school should be able to answer that for you.
     
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    Which book, ss? It could be there's a better choice for you than the one you're using.
     
  11. MissSkippyjonJones

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    When I took the test I used a few different books to get a good understanding and to have enough practice tests to take. Go to a bookstore, Barnes and Noble has a test taking section, take some time and really look at the different options available.
     
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    I have the cliff notes one. My roommate just got another one and we are going to share. We will see what happens. Thanks for your help
     
  13. TeacherGroupie

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    You might get more mileage out of a good historical atlas or kids' historical encyclopedia.
     
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    confused ss, what are you seeing (plus marks, letters, checkmarks) on side 2 of your printed score report?
     
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    I prefer using the Cliffs Notes version as it is much easier to study from.
     
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    Cliffs doesn't work for everyone, though.
     
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    Do you guys think the practice test provided by the CSET website is a good indicator, as in, if I did really well on two of the subtests I can relax a bit (and focus on science, where I'm really struggling)?

    Any tips on learning about the geology info that's tested? My Kaplan book isn't that helpful...
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

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    The prudent student looks carefully at the sample/practice questions, for sure, though those questions don't exhaust the topics on the Subject Matter Requirements doc.

    What do you need to know about geology?
     
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    I'm really lost on questions about ordering the deposition of various earth layers, and I think I need to beef up on some other stuff - the content specs even say I should know properties of a bunch of minerals! Right after I posted above I discovered a PDF of the science framework, and the middle school section is proving helpful. I'm just feeling a little overwhelmed by the breadth of info I'm supposed to know - I feel like state of Indiana must not care as much about geology and physics as CA does, because I sure didn't have to learn all this is 7th grade! :)
     
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    A quick study tip, whenever I have to remember the order of something I like to make a sentence out of the first letters of each word...just like "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally" for the order of operations in math, you could come up with something meaningful to you to order the layers of the earth.
     
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    In fact Mabel Grex is talking about stratification.

    Rule #1: Sediment is laid down in flat, even layers, other things being equal.

    Rule #2. Unless some extraordinary folding and faulting has taken place, older layers are deeper than newer layers.

    Rule #3. Once a sedimentary layer has been laid down, it can't grow - though part of it can be eroded away.

    Rule #4. For a fault line or erosion to affect a sedimentary layer, the layer has to have existed at the time of the faulting or erosion.
     
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    Ah, the Information Fairy has struck! Thank you, Teacher Groupie. For some reason the faultlines in the diagram were confusing me, but the way you lay it out makes it quite clear.
     
  23. TeacherGroupie

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    Now I'm a fairy???

    It's basic info in geology, and you're welcome.

    (For reasons that geology matters in California, look no further than the nearest earthquake.)
     
  24. Geologygirl

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    Teachergroupie is right but those rules all have specific names that they may come up within the test. You should prolly familirize yourself with terms such as the Principal of horizonality, the principal of superposition, cross cutting relationships, and you should be familair with the various types of contacts between layers of rock. Most of those terms were coverd by teachergroupie's rules above.
     
  25. TeacherGroupie

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    Thanks for looking in on this, Geologygirl. The test in question is a little more basic, however.
     

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