CSET Multiple Subjects:I passed, you can pass too

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  1. bteeple

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    Ok, so here's the thing. When I first encountered this website all I heard was "I failed" or "This is my 6th time taking the test" etc. I was worried to death about this test. It turned out not to be so bad. I took all three subtests on the same day, and passed them all in my first try. If I can do it, you can do it too. I studied for 6 weeks. The first four were very intense (2-3 hours of studying at least 5 days a week.) But I slacked off during the last two weeks because it was my bday and the following week I had guests in town...so I really only studied for 4 weeks.

    I used the Cliffs CSET book as my main outline. This book is as boring as they'll get, but it was a good outline of what to expect.

    With this book I used the scholastic books to study the topics in more detail. I also used brainpop.com (For history and science), answers.com, factmonster.com, and socialstudiesforkids.com

    Using the cliff's outline, I made my own personal outline complete with pictures (haha, yes I'm an elementary teacher) But the pictures really helped me, and re-writing the outline was much more effective than just reading the Cliff's book. I only rewrote the outlines for the sections I really felt I needed to study more. (For me the history and science.) It took FOREVER for me to rewrite the history section.

    Subtest III I studied the least for, hardly at all, in fact.

    I also downloaded for $39 an online study guide called ACE the CSET. I would say it was worth the money because it had a lot of the same info as the Cliffs book but in a different format (games, crosswords, flashcards, etc.) So it was a nice break from the traditional study methods. It made it easier to buckle down and study for a longer period of time.

    My final words of advice. Try not to focus too much on what other people are saying about the difficulty of the test. I really didn't think it was that bad. I left that day thinking, wow, this was a lot easier than I expected. Rather than wasting time dwelling on the fact that this is supposed to be a hard test, use that time to study. You'll do great! Anyone who wants to know more, feel free to reply to this or email me, I'm always happy to help. Good luck!

    Oh yeah,one last thing. The night before the test. Don't study. I know that sounds crazy...but the best thing you can do is relax and get a good night's sleep. Rent a movie, eat some pizza, drink a glass of wine, take a bath, WHATEVER, just do something to relax so that your body is ready to focus in the morning. Also, if you plan on taking all three subtests in one day, take a snack. They will let you take a quick snack and it'll energize you when you start to slow down. Ok...I think that's it! Again, good luck! :D
     
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    thanks for your positive note :) I also passed subtest 1 and III on the first time. However science and math I failed again :( I scheduled again for May this will be my fifth try. I have met every single requirement CA has except this final subtest II hopefully this 5th time will work out. Thanks for your positive attitude it means alot!!
     
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    To my amazement, I passed on first try too!

    Hi CSET folks! I passed all 3 on first try too although I really want to see my full results on paper so that I can believe it! However, unlike the first poster on this thread, I did think it was hard! I left the test completely and totally drained. It was just SO important to me to pass! Fortunately, difficult and impossible aren't always the same thing.

    Anyway, I used the Cliff Notes book at first but I really didn't like it. Okay, I hated it! It is very hard for me just to read fact after fact and absorb anything at all. So, I checked out all of the "What Your ____ Grader Needs to Know" books from the library, 3 at at a time. This is where I really was able to get the help I needed because the series is much more reader-friendly. Each grade's book builds upon the prior grades' knowledge and I actually enjoyed reading them. Note: I don't think that these books or the Cliff book have good info about teaching/evaluating reading or spelling!

    If you are a parent you may find that some of the child development questions are possible to answer from your own experience with your own children.

    As for study practices, my degree is in psychology and I'm really interested in how the mind works. One really good way that I have found to absorb difficult info more easily is to review it right before going to sleep at night. That way my brain processes it while I sleep and it seems to "soak it in" better than at other times of day.

    Good luck to you who are taking this exam in the future!
     
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    I took Section II and III and passed on my first try. I took the entire time to take them. I had plenty of time, and I took my time. I will go for Section I next.
     
  6. MJEH

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    I also passed all three subtests in my first try, and I was also pleasantly surprised that it was not as hard as I was expecting.

    I was really nervous about taking all three subsections at the same time because everyone told me that it is extremely hard to pass all three sections if they are taken at once. Well, I decided to take them anyway just to see how I would do, not expecting to pass any of them.

    After the test I was absolutely sure that I had failed. I couldn't believe how hard it was. On one of the science essay questions, I couldn't even answer. I wrote three sentences about something mildly related, but I never actually addressed the question. It just goes to show you that they are not looking for you to be a genius, they just want to make sure you have some basic knowledge.

    I started studying two weeks before. I use the cliff notes test prep. I didn't think it prepared me well for the history or science portion, but the info for subtest III was good, and so was the stuff for math. I studied about one full hour every night.


    So don't get discouraged, and I would encourage you, if it is your first time taking the test, just try all three subtests, because you never know, you may not need that much studying. I am so glad I took all three at once because now I don't have to worry about it. :D
     
  7. joeeg

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    I just want to add my 2 cents and give encouragement to those who are poor test takers. I have passed tests 1 and 3. Unlike some who posted I took only one test at a time and took about 4 hours each time. I was the last to leave the room for those taking only one test.The tortoise instead of the hare. I studied 3 hours each night for 2 weeks. I thought the tests were difficult and I'm glad I spent those many hours studying. I have the worst test left - science and math. But passing the first two has given me confidence that I can do it.
    Good luck to us all.
     
  8. dajohn

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    I also passed all three sections. I find it hard to believe! I can't wait to see my official results. Section II was difficult, but I studied using the same books mentioned before by other members. Study, study, study and you will also pass. Thanks to everyone who offered help at this site. If I can help anyone let me know.
     
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    Well done, dajohn! Don't forget to reward yourself!
     
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    Hello! Thank you for your encouragement. What suggestions do you have for studying for the essay questions for Cset I and II???
     
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    Hello! Thank you for all your encouragement. What suggestions do you have for studying for the essay questions for Cset I and II??? My mind goes blank when it comes to the essay question. I don't know what to study for. Any advice?
     
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    First, don't call 'em essays, because they're not: they're focused responses or short answers or constructed responses or whatever other term suits you, but not essays in the sense of structured, mechanically correct exercises of the CBEST type. Second, don't get too hung up about specifics: a question about Hmong-speaking children learning English really isn't about Hmong but about languages that aren't as closely related to English as Spanish or French or German are.
     
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    I have been teaching for 20 years and moved to California. I am taking the CSET, Part II, for the 4th time this month. I feel discouraged. I try to use a different practice tactic, along with new materials, for each test date. Any ideas to help me pass?
    Thanks!
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  14. TeacherGroupie

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    Take a look at side 2 of your score reports. This shows whether your difficulties are more in multiple choice than in constructed response and more in science than math.

    You may need to consider a prep course. Where are you located? Prep classes for the May test date are mostly done, but there might still be some options for you.
     
  15. AspieTeacher

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    This is in response to the teachers taking the Multiple Subjects CSET. If you work with students who are severely disabled and lower functioning than the rest of the typical population, you may have difficulty with the test. I have worked with moderate/severe disabilities for the past six years and I had to refresh my memory because I don't teach academics in my classroom. I almost forgot some of those skills and trust me, I felt this was a difficult test. I'm fortunate that I passed all three sections. I also completed my CLEAR last November as well. It's a great feeling when you know you've completed this test too.

    Troy in Downey, Ca
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    Aspie runs to modesty... He possesses, in quantity, a property which is a much better predictor of success on CSET and in the classroom than raw intelligence, and that is the ability to persist in spite of discomfort or even dismay - to keep the rump in the seat, so to speak, and to behave as though one is capable of finding the answer even when one fears one is not.
     
  17. AllanF

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    CSET MULTI

    Hello, I am new here.

    I am starting a MAT program next month and found out this week that they expect me to take and pass the CSET multi by Sept in order that I can begin student-teaching as part of my program in the fall. I am coming from an unrelated field as my bachelor's degree is in Film and Television.

    I just got the CLIFF book and have others on order. Is this nuts or what? I have to take the test in July, all 3 parts and pass...

    I have no teaching experience but am reasonably intelligent and do have a broad knowledge base...I get a lot of the questions correct on Jeopardy ;-)

    Has anyone taken any of the review courses? I have not been in school for twenty years. Is a broad liberal arts background and an average public school education good enough to pass this test? I'm hoping that once my school starts next month, I can get a study group going with some others in my cohort who also need to take this test.

    Thanks for the advice and hope to continue to use this site for many years to come.
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

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    A broad liberal arts background is very helpful with everything but, perhaps, human development and the questions on reading. Forming a study group is a great idea.
     
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    Hi,

    Thanks for posting those websites since I have one last exam to study for (subtest 2). Math and Science are my worst subjects mainly because it's been so long ago, but I'm giving myself plenty of time to prep.

    Thanks again!
     
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    Play with both, petit_ecole, and look for ways to integrate both into your daily life - science is absolutely everywhere, and it really is fun. Are you anywhere near a hands-on science museum? Let me strongly recommend a field trip, with principles-of-science index cards in hand to annotate.
     
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    I also took all 3 sections at once... mostly because I had to because CA test administrators only come to Seattle once a year to give the test. I studied for about 5 months prior to the best and mostly used the Cliff Notes CSET Study Guide. I recommend this book because it was extremely helpful and I passed all 3 sections on my first try. Especially since I didn't grow up in California or get a California education, the book helped to fill in the gaps. For example, the CSET history section tests California history as well ancient world history to now and US history. For someone who didn't grow up in CA, having to know the history from before the state's birth (when part of Mexico) to present seemed a little daunting on top of everything else you have to know. But the book goes through it and every other subject.
    Another tip: do the practice tests on CSET's website and in the Cliff Notes book. Then go over your answers. You'll be surprised at how many questions on the real CSET will be the same or similar. When I didn't know a name or event I would goggle it and learn a little about it to be familiar. This proved to help a lot as many of what I googled came up on the actual test. Finally, make flash cards of names or dates or topics that were new to you before studying. Again, much of what I made flash cards of showed up on the test or I wrote about in the essays because I could remember specific names/dates.
    Take a deep breath and study a little each day. You will do fine I'm sure. :)
     
  22. glamis369

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    I found the prep courses that I took were very helpful. Mine were offered by the Riverside County Office of Education but were held at Cal State San Bernardino. The handouts and instruction given there was very beneficial and a big part of my passing the first time.
     
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    Taking Subset III

    Hi,

    I have decided to tackle only one subset at a time even though this will delay me yet another year. I have been postponing taking the CSET because it gives me anxiety and it stresses me out. With only 3 weeks left to study, is it possible to pass subset III. I have been studiying off the KAPLAN CSET book for the last 3 days about 2 hrs. I have only read and reread the topics. My plan is to now take notes on the material presented and then go into the websites mentioned in the book for further reading. Can someone please let me know if this will work or if it is to short of a time? Should I use any other books,materials etc?

    If this works, I am planning and then tackling subset II in September, if I start right after the July 19th it will give me approx 6 weeks to tackle and again I plan to follow the same plan 2hr study a day etc.

    PLEASE SOMEONE RESPOND. I have lost sleep and have had meltdowns the passed few weeks to the point where I just want to throw in the towel.

    THANKS!!!
     
  24. TeacherGroupie

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    Tackling just one subtest at a time is just fine, NIKKI7. Given your anxiety, however, I'm guessing that you might do well to find a (good, encouraging) prep class or tutor or study group, rather than going it entirely alone.

    Which domains of Subtest III have you most concerned? And how are you as a test taker?
     
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    I did try looking for a tutor, but she turned out to be a waste of time. They only good thing that came out of the assessing meeting was that taking all three subsets would be to overwhelming. I did poorly on the last two tests that I took and it was because I was feeling tired of testing. Plus, after the testing, she stated that I did not need to study the content rather to take her lessons and she would teach me the strategies necessary to pass. That is how to eliminate wrong answers, but how is this going to help me with the response questions!! So this incident turn me off looking for a tutor!!

    In subset III, I think the reading music part will be the most difficult; however, I am currently looking for someone to teach me. It is looking good, I have a couple of family friends I can turn to.

    If the required content is not that much off from the KAPLAN study guide, I think I should be ok with physical education and human development, its a matter of memorizing the different stages etc. applying them to a situation seems to be ok.

    Test taking is ok. Once I am there to take the test I really do not have problems with anxiety and etc. Its only during the preparation time which is why I am losing right now. Deciding to to take one at a time (which will put me back yet another year) I think will ease any anxiety and stress during the test since I will have the entire 5 hours to finish, so I will not be racing against time.
     
  26. TeacherGroupie

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    Believe me when I tell you that that's not the only CSET tutoring style in California. Anyone who's teaching ONLY tricks and not content is missing the real point of the exercise - and quite likely has deficits in the knowledge into the bargain. I'm affronted on your behalf.

    Taking one subtest at a time makes perfect sense for many, many test takers.

    If the actual preparation is what's giving you grief, you might want to leaf through some of the CSET threads here - there are suggestions for incorporating study into everyday life.
     
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    Thanks so much!!! I live in the Los Angeles/Long Beach area, are there any tutors, workshops, etc that you can recommend?

    Also, I reviewed the Cliff notes and notices that although there was many similarities in the material presented in the KAPLAN book, there was other information that the KAPLAN did not have, this is starting to worry me!!!! Should I use more than one study guide, if so are there any particular ones that I should use?

    I was feeling good because, I took the practice test on the CSET page and I actually did pretty good on the mutliple choice, I think I missed 4, I haven't attempted the constructive response questions yet, these still cause great anxiety not sure how to approach studying for t his.
     
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    It's inevitable that one prep guide will have information that another doesn't, NIKKI7. If Kaplan's a book you're comfortable with, there's no reason not to stay with that - but you might do well to download the subtest description for the subtest you're facing on July 19 and use that as a checklist of things to look up on the Internet. That's cheaper than buying another book, and it's likely to be better learning for you too.
     
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    You can absolutely pass subtest III using Kaplan. We all believe in you!!
     
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    HELP!!! I have passed the CBEST and graduated with honors, but I feel everyone is so much smarter than me. I am so encouraged by your step by step outline of how you passed the CSET. I am soooo.. afraid of taking this exam because the required information is so vast. Please contact me as I would love and appreciate learning more about your test taking strategies.
     
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    Welcome to A to Z, organic99. Will this be your first attempt at CSET-MS?
     
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    Thank you for reaching out, and this will be my first time. I was very encouraged after reading Bteeple's response. I hope she will read my reply and responde!! I did well on the CBEST, but I definitely had to break up the sections into three parts. I read and comprehend quickly, but writing is a different story. I know I can get adequate help with math, but the constructed responses frighten me. I intend to do a great deal of studying and reading, but to put out the information back on paper is more challenging. Although I do not have special needs, that I know of, I wonder if adults with special needs are passing the CSET exam?
     
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    First, to get it out of the way: you reopened a thread that's almost four years old; I don't know whether Bteeple even posts on A to Z any more.

    Adults with special needs are certainly passing CSET. So are adults whose first language isn't English; in fact, many non-native speakers report that they find CSET easier, because it isn't nearly as necessary to worry about correct grammar and mechanics and spelling.

    You may also find that the migration of the test to computer-based format only will work in your favor: no more writer's cramp! In addition, have a look here: http://www.cset.nesinc.com/CS17_altarrangements.asp
     
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    Thank you so much for letting me know how old Bteeple's response probably is. However, do you believe study and learning techniques listed for that post are still applicable? I printed that page to follow the suggestions.
    I have heard people who's native language is not English do better on the CSET over CBEST for the reasons you mentioned. In addition, I took the CBEST on computer and absolutely preferred it over paper based. Also, I have completed expensive CSET workshops with the department of Education here in Orange County, California and it seems all I learned was how much I do not know. The math was the most unhelpful of that workshop, but I do have a great math tutor. All in all, I am grateful for the support this site provides as I am very frightened of all the content I must study and try to memorize. My goal is to pass the CSET for multiple subject and complete a credential/masters program for special education. While studied for the CBEST, everyone told me it would be easy, but I cannot say it was easy for me as I studied endless hours and took one section at a time. My scores were 46 for writing, 67 reading, and 63 math. So they were good, but with a great deal of effort and now I feel the number of hours I must put in for the CSET will be much more. What materials do you recommend are most effective for success? And by the way, what is your background?

    Thank you for reaching out,
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    Those are respectable scores for CBEST reading and writing, and I devoutly hope you'll see some overlap between the skills you needed for CBEST and the skills required for CSET-MS. Have your math tutor work with you on thinking through the math questions on the CSET Web site: the constructed response questions in particular are quite representative of what you can expect to see. The short version: it's less that CSET-MS math is more advanced than CBEST math than that you need to know how you know the answer. You might also see if you can get your tutor to make up comparable questions (though that's rather a challenge, as I have reason to know).

    I'm sorry to hear that the OCDE prep didn't work for you. That isn't necessarily a reflection on you and it might not even be a reflection on the prep: there's no such thing as the one best resource for everyone.

    Though it will be more expensive, your best bet might be to take the subtests one at a time.
     
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    Thank you, TeacherGroupie! Any books or websites available to help a test taker be ready for all three subtests? What about the ones listed by TBeetle long ago? Anyone have some current advice on quality test prep aides for multiple subjects? How about UTUBE?
     
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    bteeple passed less by choosing good materials (I can quibble with a few of those choices) than by putting in the work to get the most out of them.

    The Internet is your friend here. Use the subtest description and the sampe items as sources of terms to look up in your favorite browser or in Answers.com. Wikipedia's fair game too. If the first explanation doesn't resonate with you, no problem: go back to the browser and try the next link. If you find that looking up one term nets you three more to look up, that's actually good news: you're beginning to make some connections. As you search, think: imagine ways to explain the term to a bright person who happens not to have encountered it before. Find examples from your own life, and feel free to be very creative (raising children is kind of like negotiating truces in the Middle East, with the difference that your children will grow out of their snits, eventually, mostly; and while friction is a force we often have to work against, it does have its advantages when, um, the lights are low...) And if you suddenly find yourself realizing a connection you hadn't noticed between one domain and another, let me know: TeacherGroupie is seriously addicted to "lightbulb" moments.
     
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    Thank you. You are smart! Keep the advice coming.
     
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    Uh-uh, sorry: I shouldn't do all the work here. You keep the questions coming.
     
  40. vl050

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    I agree with everyone who has posted they passed the multiple subject cset. I had to pass it to get into an a teaching job. I had a year to pass all three and at first I was very worried about the eassy question. I first tired to study for all three but I soon found out I was not cut out to retain all that information in my brain. I signed up for 2 test first and only passed 1. I then took the path and just studying for 1 test at a time so that I could really focus on the content. I have passed all three subsets and feel anyone who puts in the time to study and is serious can pass these test. If anyone is interested in the material I used to pass the test, I can post them. Just a few words on encouragement.

    vl050
     
  41. txtocateacher

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    Yes, please list the materials you used to pass the test. Thank you for sharing!
     

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