CSET July 21, 2007

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  1. jazzminjoy

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    Hi all,
    Are any of you taking the CSET this Saturday? How are you spending the last week of studying--heavy cramming:eek: or light reviewing:cool:? Are you confident:rolleyes: or somewhat overwhelmed:confused:? Are there any tips or strategies you will use?

    I'm taking subtest 1 of Math. I'm still learning some of the topics, so I'd say I'm in heavy cramming mode. I'm both confident I'll pass (one only needs a D- or about 60% correct to pass) and overwhelmed. I need to know how to write out the proofs of the different theorems--Remainder, Conjugate Root, Binomial, Rational Root, and Factor--and practice. At least I have the Quadratic Formula proof down and understand and can use the theorems. I have to brush up on logs and conic sections, among other things. Fortunately, I'm enjoying the process, though it is tiring. I'm going to Square Dance on club night Wednesday and at a hoedown Friday. Well, back to the studying.

    Good luck to us all.
     
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  3. Jarenko

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    I am! but not for math. I can't do math. At all.

    Have fun at your square dance and good luck! :cool: :wow:
     
  4. jazzminjoy

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    What test/subtest are you taking and which location? I'll be at the Stockton / Modesto site.

    Thanks for the "have fun" and "good luck" wishes. Good luck to you, too.
     
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    I think Jarenko's taking CSET Social Science.
     
  6. Jarenko

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    'Tis correct.

    In Carpenteria. :eek:
     
  7. TeacherGroupie

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    (gently)

    There are worse parts of the state to be in, Jarenko.
     
  8. Jarenko

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    True. I did my CBEST in Glendale, which was fine, but for CSET my only real options were Santa Barbara or West or East LA. Los Angeles makes me nervous so SB it is! :thanks:
     
  9. lisacard

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    CSET ENGLISH THIS SATURDAY 7/21/07

    If anyone is taking the CSET in English on Saturday in Sacramento, and would like to get together sometime this week to study (maybe a library), please PM me. It might be a good idea to share ideas...

    Thanks,

    Lisa
     
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    I'm taking the English, but only section II in San Gabriel.
     
  12. lipstick

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    Is anybody else taking section II, and how are you studying? I'm using the study guide off the website and one other book. There aren't any good single subject books out there.
     
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    jazzminjoy, I'll be at the Stockton/Modesto site as well. I'll be taking subtests II & III for Social Science. I'm reading AP review books to wake up all of the info I have tucked away in my head somewhere...
    Good luck to all!!!
     
  14. TeacherGroupie

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    AP review's a good choice, greenbean6.

    lipstick, keep asking questions, and make use of the Internet as well.
     
  15. lipstick

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    are there any really good study materials for the single subject english?
     
  16. TeacherGroupie

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    Start with one of my all-time favorites: Answers.com (http://www.answers.com), used in conjunction with the subject matter requirements document for CSET English. Find a term in the SMR that doesn't make sense to you and look it up in Answers.com: if there's an entry for it in any of Answers.com's reference works, Answers.com will neatly spit it or them up for you, thus giving you quick background without obliging you to dig through scads of Web sites looking for one that's workable. If Answers.com gives you Web sites instead of text, try posting another related term or try the term on your favorite search engine (Google, or for me these days, IXQuick).

    I have the impression from your posts elsewhere that Subtest II is a particular concern. Is it the linguistics or the grammar or the reading issues or the English language learning or what?
     
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    I'm glad my math CSET is in the afternoon. The site is an hour away, and I enjoy sleeping in a bit. Are all the single subject tests in the PM?
     
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    Yes.
     
  19. soshootme

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    I'm taking the CSET this Saturday in San Diego. I'm taking the English Sub-1, and the Math sub-1. I'm really worried about the math, since I've taken it before and not passed...by 2 points. Ugh.
    Some advice for the other person studying math, make sure instead of just looking and reading through notes, you actually sit down with the problems presented on the site and do them without looking at notes. Sounds like stupid advice, but it's so very easy when reviewing to depend upon known solutions and not force oneself to think from scratch. That's why long response killed me the first time.
     
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    What did you see on side 2 of your score report, soshootme?
     
  21. Jarenko

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    2 more days to study! Oh, i'm feeling the heat!
     
  22. Jarenko

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    Now that I think about it, my tactic has been to not study and instead rely on my knowledge and my belief that most of the stuff I'll run into is somewhere deep in my brain that will only be recalled on the test day. I'm only reviewing a couple spots in US history I want to be familiar with, and maps and some basic economic terms. I've taken econ in high school and an economics oriented class (it was the history of economics in North America). That should be enough for me.

    I will let you all know how it goes!
     
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    Tomorrow is the day! Go time!
     
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    20 Hours Left To Study!

    Yikes - I'm taking all three subtests tomorrow! I can't believe how nervous I am. As I look through my review books (I bought three of them) I keep finding topics that I am clueless about. For example, last night I found a SCR question about simple machines and pulleys. I'm wondering how in-depth the SCR questions go? Does anyone know?

    Thanks!
     
  25. Jarenko

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    Best of luck.. This is where the battle truly begins!
     
  26. TeacherGroupie

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    "Mental exercise", Jarenko. "Mental exercise." Let's keep the gunpowder out of this and the angst to a relatively low roar, shall we?
     
  27. Jarenko

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    Hm, I suppose. How boring.
     
  28. TeacherGroupie

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    Let's still keep the gunpowder out, Jarenko - but would you be happy with, say, "tournament", as in knights with lances?
     
  29. Jarenko

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    Oh, you sweet talker you! :p

    Yes, I like that. Tomorrow Sir Jarenko goes to the joust! :wow:
     
  30. TeacherGroupie

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    Joust as you wish, Sir Knight...

    (TG rummages in pockets, extracting several keys - "picturesque, but not useful" - a stapler - "wrong CSET: that would be science" - a reasonably clean handkerchief - "too stereotyped"... and finally, aha! a mechanical pencil in good working order and with a reasonable eraser...)

    "Prithee, Sir Knight, bear this my token in the lists as thou jousteth on the morrow! And success be to thee!"
     
  31. jazzminjoy

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    TG or anyone,
    Do you know the pass rate for 1st time test takers for CSET Math Subtest 1? I think I'm going to be a causality after all. Everything is all mixed up in my head. Trying to learn in 3 months all that advanced algebra stuff a young college student learns over four years is a bit much. Oh well. Sigh.
     
  32. TeacherGroupie

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    Statistics don't seem to be kept for individual subtests. First-time passing for CSET Foundational-level Math as of 2005 was about 29%, which sounds horrible, but first-time passing for CSET Math (for which Subtests I and II are identical) then was 45%, which is rather an improvement.
     
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    I don't get it. Foundational-level math means you take subtest 1 and 11. So why such different rates? Maybe different people looked at the same data and came up with different results.

    TG, you are so amazing. Where do you find the info on passing rates? Google?
     
  34. Cal

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    I'm taking the Social Science tests tomorrow. I probably should have prepared a bit more, but I found all the practice tests easy, so I'm going to wing it. I know I'll pass US History and Civics, etc, so the only real issue is the non-European part of World History, and I read up on that and took a few AP tests.

    I passed the Math subtests and English subtest 1 so far. I didn't like the algebra subtest at all--I missed passing by 2 points the first time, so took it again. Just not a very nice test, with next to no relationship to what's taught in highschool.
     
  35. TeacherGroupie

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    Different rates, because test takers specify somewhere in the documentation whether they're going for the regular Math credential or for the Foundational-level credential - and I'm guessing more people who've gone for Foundational-level are likelier to be, um, underprepared.
     
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    TG,
    When a person registers for the CSET, she answers several background questions. The questions apply to any CSET and are listed on the main test site. There are not questions specific to the math CSET.

    Maybe when I take the test tomorrow there will be additional questions to answer concerning the Foundational vs. regular math credential, but I doubt there will be. There weren't any at all on the multiple subject CSET subtests (except the actual test questions, of course). Maybe the data is compiled informally by colleges and universities. Also, maybe people who initially thought they would go for a regular credential and did poorly decided to state they were just going after a Foundational one. In any case, the first time pass rates are rather dismal. I guess that just means to be real proud when you do pass.
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    These are statistics collected by the Commission for Teacher Credentialing, http://www.ctc.ca.gov/commission/agendas/2006-04/2006-04-2F.pdf; the document doesn't specify how it was determined that a test taker was going for Foundational-level Math as opposed to the full Math credential.

    Note, please, that the cumulative passing statistics in both cases are higher (36% for Foundational-level, 48% for full Math).
     
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    Hi,

    I'm taking the English SS test in 3 1/2 hours and wanted to thank everyone on this message board for all the great resources. I haven't posted before but have been perusing this site for the last couple weeks for everything from technical data to moral support. It's been enormously helpful in my preparation. Good luck to everyone else going in today!
     
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    how did you do?

    duh first post went in the wrong spot! :eek:
     
  40. TeacherGroupie

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    Hope it went well for you, gestalt, and welcome aboard.
     
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    Hi TG and SLO. Thanks for the welcome! I'm feeling pretty good about the test now. There were only two questions that really caught me off guard. But I'd be surprised if I didn't pass. It seems like the results can be unpredictable though judging by how other people thought they did. I'm over the anxiety of taking the test. Now I have to deal with waiting for the results.

    Right before I went into the room, a woman standing next to me glanced at my ticket and said "Oh you're not taking ALL 4 sections today, are you??" And then proceeded to tell me what a bad idea that was. I finished with 1/2 an hour to spare so I think 4 sections is definitely doable if you're prepared.

    Now I'm off for three days of camping. I'm not even going to crack a book unless it's for kindling. Does SLO stand for San Luis Obispo? Have you taken your CSET yet?
     

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