CSET ENGLISH Updates

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  1. Joseph112

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    Hello everyone, I am new to this site, and I am still shocked to why I had not found it earlier. I am taking the CSET English I and III a week apart--June 21/28. I bought the REA book, looked at Elmer's study guide, and more. However, I feel, and correct me if I am wrong, that the CSET exams changed over time, meaning that I have seen posts on here where people said the questions, terms, devices, etc, are out of date to where they are not reflected anymore. I am taking both tests, and I honestly do not know what exactly to study for. Can I get an update on the material? Perhaps from someone who has taken the exams recently? What are the things to study for?

    Thank you.
     
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  3. Rosa Luo

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    Hi everyone,
    I am also a new member. I desperately need to pass the English subtest 3 by August 28, 2017 to stay in the credential program.
    I am very frustrated by the failure of my CSET English Subtest 3 for the third time!!! I passed the subtests 1,2, and 4 the first time I took. But, I got the subtest 3 score of 193 for the first two times, and 207 for the third time. My score report states that my first essay has k,s,d and second essay has s,d. I feel so stupid and hopeless in trying to figure out what I did wrong and how I can write two well thought out essays within a very short amount of time. I need a tutor or some kind of good preparation class to attend to pass this tremendously difficult test. I live in Fremont in Alameda County, California. Please help!!! Thanks!
     
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    Rosa Luo, you raised your score 14 points from second attempt to third: well done! The fact that you weren't given p's on your responses is good news, because it means that you fulfilled the "purpose" requirement (which amounts to getting the point of the question). k means that the person who assigned the diagnostic indicators thinks you came up short on knowledge; that's often resolved by ensuring that one is using enough literary terms and academic-language phrasings to sound knowledgeable. Those s's suggest that you weren't supporting your responses with enough evidence and reasoning, and one way to resolve that is to make a point of quoting from the passages with which you're dealing:

    TeacherGroupie's use of informal language ("came up short", sentence 3) is intended to reassure apprehensive readers. ​

    Joseph111, what has changed the most in CSET English I is that non-literary prose/composition and rhetoric get somewhat more emphasis. The tools of the trade are still the technical terms, however: it's easy for a test taker to believe that those terms aren't being tested because there aren't explicit questions about them, but the correct answer to a constructed response may depend on recognizing the applicability of a given term in a passage.
     
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    Thanks for your encouragement! Do you know of any tutor, or Is there any tutor who can help me with my essays in order to pass the subtest 3? Do you know of any prep classes? Please.... Thank you!
     
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    what's going on with subtest 3, it seems impossible to pass?
     
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    Is Subtest III impossible to pass? No. It's easier to pass, however, if one can mimic the writing style of someone who knows the subject matter. For CSET English Subtest III, scorers are not looking for specific answers so much as they are looking for evidence that the test taker

    (a) understands how literary analysis and non-literary analysis work;
    (b) can muster enough of the technical terminology of English grammar, composition/rhetoric, and English literature to, um, pass muster;
    (c) knows what constitutes evidence in support of an analysis and knows how to present that evidence;
    (d) and commands English grammar and mechanics at a level that suggest ability to evaluate and teach students. ​
     
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    Thanks. I really needed this.
     
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  10. DAH

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    Rosa Luo,----Try TeachersTestprep.com. This website is based out of southern California, and they do have a video on-demand course for CSET English I, II, III, and IV; I've seen it. They helped me pass the CSET MS math/science sub-test last year, and prepared me well! I passed the second time.
    Good luck
     
  11. David Coles-Perez

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    Good afternoon everyone, I'm a first-time member too. I only have to pass the C.S.E.T. English subtest 1. I really thought for sure that I would pass this time around, but I received the "Not Pass" result after my sixth attempt. Another thing that I noticed is that the test is like half-old half new. Do any of you have any suggestions that could help me prepare? I was nineteen points shy of passing. I'm open to any suggestions that you may have. I look forward to your responses. Have a good day.
     
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    [QUOTE="David Coles-Perez:

    I'm curious why you only have to take subtest 1. Did you already pass 2, 3, and 4? And, just for your information, TeachersTestPrep.com has an excellent online video prep series for the CSET English exam, you may want to try it.
    Thanks for responding
     
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    Welcome to A to Z, David Coles-Perez. How are you generally as a taker of multiple-choice tests? Do the diagnostic indicators on the second page of your score report suggest that you usually do better on literary/nonliterary analysis than on composition and rhetoric, or vice versa, or does it vary from test date to test date?
     
  14. David Coles-Perez

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    To answer your question, I received a result such as the following "++" It does vary from test date to test date. Any further suggests would be most helpful. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE]
    Let me re-ask my first question, then: how are you generally as a taker of multiple-choice tests?
     
  16. David Coles-Perez

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    Let me re-ask my first question, then: how are you generally as a taker of multiple-choice tests?[/QUOTE]

    On the practice tests, I get good passing scores. Then, I review the ones that I didn't answer correctly. However, on the actual test, the questions that I flag as "unsure" tend to be the ones that I run the risk of answering incorrectly. I save those for last and answer them. I think it also has to do with how confident I am during the actual test itself because it's just me answering the questions as best I can. Sometimes I take a couple of deep breaths so that my concentration doesn't go off-balance. Overthinking gets in way too. I can't always predict what's going to be on the test and what isn't. I'm not giving up, and neither should any of us. The true test of experiencing minor setbacks is how we deal with them. Are there any other strategies that can help me when it comes to answering the 50 multiple-choice questions? I look forward to your responses. Thank you.
     
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    A good general rule, especially for those who know they overthink, is not to change an answer unless one can identify what one did wrong to reach it.

    Let me add that sometimes the correct answer isn't so much the "best" answer as it is the "least worst" answer.
     
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    I, too, have taken this test over and over and cannot pass. I have bought so many prep books and used Teacherstestprep as well and it still didn't matter. I need to pass this test by Sept 1, which means I have ONE more attempt before I delay my program another year.
     
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    [QUOTE="Jonda Barraza, [/QUOTE]
    It's unfortunate that California doesn't offer a "middle school" English Language Arts test like many other states. Eventually California split the math category into two test sections which now include a 'Foundational' math test (to be taught on the middle school level only).
    It might be helpful if they would do the same to science and English.
     
  20. TeacherGroupie

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    California didn't "eventually" split the math test; the Foundational-level Math option (Subtests I and II) was among the first of the CSET exams introduced in 2003 - along with Foundational-level Science.
     
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    [QUOTE="TeacherGroupie,
    Okay, thank you, TG.
     
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    I feel EVERYONE'S pain! I passed part 3 a few months ago after 3 attempts! I was soooo frustrated! My job for this upcoming school year depended on it! I damn near had to memorize the story, the author, the questions, and the exact arrangement of things in order to come home, study, look up the authors and stories, and create my own study guide. I was lucky enough to get the same test my 3rd time around. They are looking for how well you support what you state. Use certain Eng terms, such as; organization, structure, tone, setting, mood, voice, narrator, author. Make sure you include those words. And support what you state. The study materials for sale on Amazon were a waste of money! They did nothing to prepare me! I hope this helps! You can do it! Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to know.

    Good luck!!

    Lisa
     
  23. David Coles-Perez

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    You make an excellent point. Trying to not change an answer unless one is sure that it's incorrect. In your experience, how confident were you about going with your gut-instinct? I've learned how to use it during the practice tests, but on the actual tests, I would find myself second-guessing myself. In a way, I would take the gut-instinct a step further. Do you have any studying suggestions that could help prevent this problem?
     
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    Hey guys,

    I'm planning to take the English CSET as well, so far after reading all the forums the one sub-test I'm most worried about is the third one. From what I read online a lot of people have purchased english cset study guides from Orange County's department of education. Have any of you heard positive feedback or if the guides are worth the price? The study guides are expensive...

    I'm mainly using is the REA CSET ENGLISH SUBTEST 1-1V book but I would like to add more study materials. If you have any other materials you think would benefit me please tell me! I'm desperate ....
     
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    Welcome to A to Z, School_92! What's your background in English? Have you written any analyses of literary or nonliterary prose recently? Or at all?
     
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    Can u message me, please
     
  27. angela diaz

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    Hi Rosa, my name is Angela and I too am studying to pass the English CSET subtests. Were you finally able to pass?
     
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    Hello everyone,
    I too am studying and preparing to take the English CSET and would like to know what resources everyone is using to prepare. I purchased Teachers Test Prep and did not pass Subtest II. I went in feeling SO confident, but during the test I did not recognize the majority of the test questions! I recetly purchased the REA book and feel that the practice questions are similar to those I found on the test unlike the practice questions on Teachers Test Prep.
    If anyone has recently taken the subtests this year and passed please share any helpful resources. I'd greatly appreciate it!!! :)
     
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    Do I need to read classic novels and plays or works by Homer to pass cset English? Please help
     
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    I just passed Subset 1 today and I do not think you have to read whole works to pass. I was not an English major (history) and am a little shocked I passed on first try. I did not find it to be either like the practice tests on the CSET website or from the REA CSET English prep book which was scary. I was hoping for more questions on movements or even rhetoric. Really the stuff I memorized and I knew. A lot of reading, some editing and a lot of process of elimination was what it cane down to. Not much recall.
     
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    Hello hello,
    Oh my gosh help!!! It’s been a year my whole life’s been on hold waiting to pass the English CSET. Help help help
     
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    Hello hello,
    Oh my gosh help!!! It’s been a year my whole life’s been on hold waiting to pass the English CSET. Help help help
     

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