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  1. Rainbowbird

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    Thank you everyone for all your good wishes. I just came home to both an email and a phone message from the VP telling me that I have not been selected to return for a second interview. I feel like I have been punched. I want to cry but I am waiting til my kids go to bed. My husband can't believe I didn't get called back. I should add that he is a teacher of 23 years experience and has been on many interviewing committees. He has been my cheerleader but also an excellent critic and job coach regarding my applications, answers, interview skills, etc.

    I am wondering if the vibe I felt-the poker faces etc. right from the beginning were because they had their minds made up already about someone else. Maybe it was just a courtesy interview. I don't know.

    I just know that with my experience and references, it shouldn't be this hard to get a job.

    The assistant p. who interviewed me was very nice and said that he had no negative feedback at all and that they were very impressed, etc. but that they had other candidates that were more highly qualified. Well...okay, I guess I can buy that. I haven't taught first, but I have taught second. I also student taught in first and was hired by the local university last year to be a clinical supervisor for a senior in her student teaching assignment in first grade. So I'm good enough to supervise a student but not good enough to teach? :dizzy:

    I know I should not beat myself up or take it personally but I am crushed.

    I wrote him a second thank you anyway. And he just wrote me back a very lengthy and super-nice email telling me not to give up and that there was nothing I did wrong or could have done differently, but just that they go for direct experience in the grade being filled whenever possible. He gave me some general job search advice and told me to keep hunting right up til and after school starts.

    And I'm really curious to hear what the p has to say when I see her again (and find out why she wasn't in the interview process). :(

    It's just really tough. There are never more than 50 or 60 elementary positions advertised for my entire STATE at any one time, and that includes special Ed and specialists positions. So you can imagine how many applicants there are for each position. Hundreds to thousands.

    Time for some chocolate, and lots of it.
     
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  3. Lynn K.

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    I am so sorry. I know it must be terribly hard to keep a positive attitude. Keep trying.. somewhere there is the perfect group of kids just waiting for you to find them!
     
  4. littlemiskinder

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    Hey,
    I'm so sorry to hear about your situation and know how you feel. I have applied to about 150 schools in the past two years and have only gone on a handful of interviews. I am experienced and do well on my interviews but haven't gotten anything either. I know that it's very hard to hear that they have no negative comments because that means there is nothing that you fix for the next interview. It's hard to do, but keep trying and don't give up. Eventually the right school will hire you and they will be very lucky!
     
  5. Mr.history

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    That really sucks. :(
    I was hoping something was going to work out in the end for you. Maybe something can still change before school starts. :(
     
  6. My3kloves

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    I'm so sorry! I had bad news last week when I didn't get the kinder position I interviewed for.

    Have you thought about doing a para job? This is the route I'm taking to get my foot in the door. I've been a stay at home mom for 10 years and nobody wants me now because I'm extinct, apparently. Ugh
     
  7. Rainbowbird

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    Thank you. The chocolate is kicking in and I'm starting to feel better, and a former colleague just emailed me with condolences. It helps when the people who know me are like WHAT????? :lol:
     
  8. Rainbowbird

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    Possibly. But around here, many schools do not hire paras. Once a para, always a para. It sucks.
     
  9. Rainbowbird

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    Thanks, Mr. History. Well, I was hired for my first job on August 24th. Although I hate late hires, I wouldn't complain!!! :p
     
  10. Rainbowbird

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    Thank you, Lynn. I hope I can get psyched up should I get another interview. It's getting harder to do so with the cumulative effect of the rejections. I'm sure in a day or two, I'll feel better.
     
  11. englishteach2

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    Hello:

    I was sorry to read your post tonight. Did you hear about that museum job?
     
  12. Rainbowbird

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    I actually didn't apply yet. The deadline is Friday. I'm worried that taking a job like that will ruin my chances even more. If I take a sub job sometime during the year at least it shows my continued involvement in teaching. I don't know what I'm going to do. :(. Thanks for remembering about that. That's really nice of you.
     
  13. Listlady

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    I'm sorry. Make sure you take the advice, though: don't give up! The job that is meant for you will be yours!
     
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    :hugs: Your time will come!
     
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    So I'm new here, but I'm sorry to hear about what happened! I've been on the receiving end of a bunch of rejections myself, so I know how crushing it can really be. :( I'm still hoping to find something too even though school's around the corner (I actually have another interview on Wednesday for a temporary position), but I'm sure that the right position is out there for you! Keep your head up, and more chocolate never hurts ;)
     
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    I'm sorry about the bad news. I really hope something works out for you. I know it's difficult to stay hopeful, but there's still time!
     
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    I am so sorry :confused: do you have a portfolio??
     
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    I'm sorry, honey..... :(. These are the times when I wish we knew each other so that I could give a real big hug and let you cry it out! :hugs:
     
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    I was thinking this too...and I'd have more chocolate :) I'm so sorry. I'm crushed for you :(
     
  20. Rainbowbird

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    Thank you everyone, again. I feel a little better. The urge to cry has been replaced by anger and irritation, a natural part of the grieving process :lol:

    The whole thing was just weird. I am contacted by this p who I know to interview. Then she is not even at the interview. And I pretty much got the vibe from the get-go that they were not seriously interested in me. I don't know why she sought me out and set it up in such an enthusiastic way if I was not what they were looking for in the first place. They told me I wasn't highly qualified enough...I think that would have been obvious from my résumé if they were strictly looking for folks who had actually taught first. My student teaching experience and university supervisor experience didn't seem to matter.

    I know it does no good, but I have to vent. Teachers get moved to different grades all the time. I moved from second to third in the same district. The woman I subbed for last year moved from third to kindergarten, and had never taught it before. Nobody bats an eye. But to hire someone who has taught the grade above---oh, no, that just won't do. :rolleyes:

    It's obvious they just didn't want me, and that is what stings.
     
  21. Rainbowbird

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    I do, but it needs to be updated from last year. Honestly, nobody looks at them anymore. Even if you pull it out and show them, they just glance and pass it on. The teachers I know who have been on hiring committees have told me that they glance at them to be polite, but that they aren't a factor in hiring. They're seen as something for students to do as a school project. :unsure: It couldn't hurt to try bringing it along again, though. Problem is I didn't save student work from my sub job last year.
     
  22. ECE ABC

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    :( So sorry...sometimes a good cry really helps. I've been there and I know it hurts. It's hard, but try to stay positive and pray!!!!! God has a way of delivering things to us at exactly the right moment.



    ((((Hugs))))
     
  23. DressageLady

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    I am sorry to hear this, Rainbowbird. There are just so many of us out there, looking for work.

    Hang in there. And be nice to yourself.
    Sheilah
     
  24. TeachTN

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    HUGS!!!! I know how devestating it can be to think you have all the right credentials, yet don't receive the offers so you can do what you love. Unfortunately we need to put on the happy face when we go into the next interview because that may be the ONE that you were meant for. It is difficult, but, as teachers, we love a challenge. :)
     
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    I am so sorry to hear you didn´t get it. Hugs to you.
     
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    I'm so sorry:( I skipped the second page, so maybe someone asked, but did you apply for the museum job? Is there a way you could do the museum and sub or was the museum full time? I can't remember.

    Everything happens for a reason so maybe that perfect job is going to come a bit later (hopefully sooner, though) for you :) :hugs:
     
  27. Rainbowbird

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    Hi Marie--

    I didn't apply for it yet. It is full-time so wouldn't allow me to do any other teaching.

    I am still holding out hope for a last-minute job. It happened to me once 23 years ago--I was hired on August 24th!!

    I was just talking to a former colleague and she was telling me how much everyone misses me from last year. She said if there was an opening she is sure I would get it. But so far there isn't one. Maybe something will open up somewhere else...

    Thanks for your kind thoughts.
     
  28. Milsey

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    I see lots of teaching jobs out there. You may have to settle for part time, but it's a start.
     
  29. Rainbowbird

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    It may depend where you are located. There are definitely not lots of jobs around here. I would welcome a part-time position and in fact have been applying for them. Hopefully something will transpire....soon.
     
  30. Rhesus

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    Aw, crap. I was hoping this would come together for you.

    The job market in our area right now is brutal, and I sincerely believe that experience and degrees is actually a detriment right now. They seem to want to hire beginners.
     
  31. Rainbowbird

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    Thanks, Rhesus. I think you're right. They want cheap labor IMO.

    I did apply for a job that is 40 min. away. Upper elementary, don't know which grade yet. I sent the packet today. I wasn't going to apply, but I figured with so little time left, I can't be picky. It's a very high-paying district, though.

    Today feels like a wasted day. I've just been in a funk and total fog, got very little done, but hopefully a day at the beach tomorrow will help fix things!:lol:

    Did you do your demo lesson today?
     
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    I hope you find something that makes you happy.

    The museum position sounds interesting. No testing pressure, each day would be different, and you'd still get to bust out some teaching. If I lived close enough to a museum, I'd apply. No irate parents demanding to know why their precious made an 88 instead of the 98 they wanted. That would be worth it by itself!
     
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    I suggest that you just do it. You have wonderful gifts and talents that can be used in many different venues. Working in a museum and helping the museum to educate kids-- well, this is wonderful.

    I believe that we all have the power to create our own happiness, but we have to work and sometimes fight for it.
     
  34. Rainbowbird

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    I went ahead and uploaded my application materials tonight for the museum job. It closes next Monday, then they do a screening, and then contact if an interview is to happen. I imagine it may take awhile, being such a big university. Which is okay, as financially we are stable and I don't need to rush. They are also listing a bunch of other adminstrative jobs and some advisor jobs that I will apply for.

    The cool thing about the museum job is of course, the artsy environment and the fact that it is being moved into a beautiful new building just a half-mile from my house. It doesn't get more convenient than that.

    I know that there are other jobs out there (I have done some of them) but it was hard to take the plunge and apply because it feels like admitting defeat. But if I got it, who knows, I may enjoy it so much that I don't want to go back!

    TeacherinTexas, I know you speak the truth about not having papers to grade, etc. there would certainly be many benefits. EnglishTeach, I agree with you 100%.

    I will certainly keep you all posted!

    Oh, and I heard from the p today. She said she recused herself from all of the initial interviews because she was personally connected with all of them in some way! :eek: She said it was a really hard decision and she hopes that someday there will be another position for which I could be hired. Long story short she was really nice about it. :unsure:
     
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    Really? I'm from the same area as you and a beginner and I'm finding the exact opposite. I feel like no one can win, honestly.
     
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    So sorry! Your other post had me so excited and I was really rooting for you.
     
  37. isabunny

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    I so hope you get an interview for this job! You might really love it! I have applied to museum jobs also. I live about 30 minutes from a great museum in the Atlanta area. I think teaching at a museum would be a dream job for me. Keep us updated!:)
     
  38. Rainbowbird

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    Thank you so much. I don't know how much teaching there would be though. It is an art museum and I think the grad students get to do a lot of the fun stuff. Understandably. But perhaps with my background they would let me do a bit more teaching/tours etc. I know a large part of the job is organizational/administrative. Still sounds cool.
     
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    Thank you so much. I feel that they have someone in mind and were just going through the motions with me. Oh well. It wasn't meant to be.
     

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