Discussion in 'General Education Archives' started by GardenDove, May 16, 2007.
May 25, 2007
This is FALSE.
It's okay, January Violet, your point has been defended many times over.
A background where there are far fewer silver spoons.
See, this post will never die because if we do not learn from the past we will be doomed to repeat it.
Fewer silver spoons than brass tacks?
That doesn't make a person socially disadvantaged. Economically maybe but socially no.
What's ok? What point?
But then my friend, they will never learn to use there silverware the "right" way. And obviously such a social Faux pas would only be commited by the most foolish sort.
For the hundredth time on this thread, yes, plenty of people say "ax" instead of "ask". All colors, all parts of the country. Not nearly "just blacks". Good Lord. My own daughter does it, don't have the faintest idea why. And Teacher Groupie posted a great reason for it, the word actually used to begin with ax-!
I didn't want to say this before because I really didn't want to get in on the argument. It wasn't worth fighting over, IMO.
But. Here. Goes. I have known plenty of people who went to Yale, Harvard, Columbia. Believe me, they sound just as common as anyone else. Worse, sometimes. Yes, they have a "formal register" and use it when they need to.
I didn't have a silver spoon, just middle class. But I had to train myself to speak "conversationally" because I sounded so formal when I spoke. People used to call me "Miss Victoria." Too many books, all sorts of vocabulary that is not used every day.
Speaking of silver spoons, look at George W. I'm sorry, but he couldn't possibly sound more uneducated and redneck!
That's embarrassing! He's our president. I wouldn't mind the improper grammar, it's the bullying way he talks, the uninsightful things he says. Ugh!
You always make me laugh so hard.
However, I think Mamacita did well to point out that bit about not wanting her dentist to have poor grammar.
This highlights the bias in us all. For how many of us feel similiar even though dentist should be judged on dentistry and not grammar.
Since we all judge, we need remember to not treat our susceptibility to fualty judgments as some imprimatur to continue to use false judgments.
I've got this one, Teacher Groupie!
The trouble with Dubya isn't the silver spoon, it's the silver foot.
I couldn't remember how to spell that word for the life of me.
Faux 'false' as in faux finish, pas 'step' as in pas de chat (from Latin passum 'step', which also gives us English pace).
("Miss Victoria"? eduk8r, well met indeed!)
As in "born with a silver ___ in his mouth".
Yes, it would appear so.
What about Dubya? Que es esto?
Opening mouth solely to change feet?
Oh, I get it. And you're referring to our revered President, I hope? Not someone here, on this forum....I hope.
No, it is both...It is time you knew...I am the president.
Well, I've got a few things to say to you, sir!
There's this guy on this forum, see. He started explaining a math concept, but now, now he won't finish!
what a jerk that guy must be. If I come across him I will slap him a couple times for you.
Thanks. I needed that.
Mr. President, have you forgotten your presidential dignity? Now listen here. We are always telling our kids not to fight, to work it out. But you, all you ever think about is fighting!
How am I supposed to explain this to the little ones? Wait until you're president, then you can beat people up? Haven't you ever heard of choices and perspectives, Mr. Bush?
May 26, 2007
You see, children are foolish. You can hear them, when confronted by the famous "why did you do that?" use the excuse the devil made me do it.
I on the other hand simply say, God made me do it
No one can say that God wouldn't do such things because the bible is full of such things. You may think me foolish, but isn't this ingenious.
Oh, you have me laughing sooo hard right now! That was good.
Mr. President, sir.
Ooo: politics AND religion in one post!
On a serious note, Tigers got it right though, didn't he?
The question is: which is more dangerous politics, religion, or grammar?
Grammar, for sure!
The interplay of noun and verb does indeed make people... tense.
How do you do that?