Class size (in terms of students)

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  1. yambert

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    how much students do you look after on average? What do you think is optimal? I find 12-15 is the best size. Still small enough to have deeper interactions with the students on an individual level, but big enough to where the students can still really bounce off each other.
     
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    I teach 5th grade and have 27 in my morning and 26 in my afternoon class.

    When I taught Kindergarten, I usually had between 20-22 students.

    12-15 would be wonderful, but highly unlikely, at least when I am. I had more than that in my summer school class last year! :eek: (Kindergarten: 16 students)
     
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    This year in my first grade class I have had 25 students all year.

    Last year I had 22 students all year.

    Ideally, I would love to have about 20 students in first grade.
     
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    Our school has a limit of 13 in pre-k/k and 16 in 1-6th. (private school.)

    I almost always have between 13-15 kids. It's great, except that socially the girls can sure get snippy at one another! Maybe that happens in classes of 25 too.
     
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    I have 20 this year in the 4th grade. I think 20 is an ideal class size for 4th grade.
     
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    I teach in an alternative school, and our class sizes are limited to 11. It really is great because no one can hide. If someone stops working, I know fairly quickly, and I can go sit with them and help them individually.

    Class sizes make a HUGE difference, IMHO.
     
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    I teach first grade. Last year I started with 22 and ended up with 18. This year I started with 22 and ended up with 26!! Grr!! I have eight more kids than last year and it makes a HUGE difference!! Next year we'll have about the same amount. I think the highest we can have is 27.

    When I taught second grade I had 28 students. I think the highest we can have is 29. I'm moving to second next year so we'll probably have about 26 I guess.

    I'd be so happy with 20 kids!
     
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    12-15 would be fabulous- I've never had that. I have 22 students this year (grade 2) and my SIX grade level colleagues each have between 19-22.
     
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    I teach in high school. Classes average 35-40 students in most cases at my school. My upper level Latin classes have far fewer kids, like between 15-20.
     
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    I have over all 150 +/- students. Roughly..

    1st-17
    2nd-23
    4th- 27
    5th-25 *ish*
    6th 30
    7th-18

    My mom taught for 35 1/2 years..her first few yrs of teaching back in the early 70s..she taught 3rd grade and had 40 kids in one class. She said that it was hard at the time..but the best experience for her.
     
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    I just got #24 last week. It's definitely too high now. I enjoyed 20 to 22 for fifth.
     
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    I have 33, and my partner has 34. I was told today that I'll be getting another student next week- kind of ridiculous, given that there's not much time left in the school year...
     
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    I have 144 total, 24-33 in each class.
     
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    I have 70 total, 3 periods, 22-25 each. i think 18 is ideal for an ELA class, esp before they have taken state tests.
     
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    Our primary (grades 1-3) classes are capped at 20. Our grades 4-6 about 27-30, grades 7 and 8 usually end up with 30-33.
     
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    I have 14. I would like 16 so I could have even groups of 4. I had 20 last year and didn't really notice a difference. I can't imagine over 30!
     
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    I am in a SAGE school in WI which limits class sizes to 15 because of our low income status. Because of space issues though we have to team teach a class of 27. To me there's a real difference in one teacher instructing 15 students versus 2 teaching 30. I much prefer the 15 to 1 ratio.
     
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    I have 16 this year, which is our upper limit (private school). One year I had 8.
     
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    Here we have on average 28 - 40 in a class from pre-primary and in some schools over 40. No assistants, unless in pre-school then only in schools in better areas.
     
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    At our school kinder-third have an average of 21. 4th and 5th are sitting at about 24 or 25.
     
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    I have 19, some years 20. Over 25 is too many.
     
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    I have 15 Kinders and it's wonderful. I had up to 23-24 5th graders once...it wasn't bad except they fed off each other...When one had a bad day, then at least 5 had a bad day just because they could. I would prefer to have 20 or less for any grade, but with kinders, the fewer the better because of all of the "needs".
     
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    I have 20-25 in every class but one...and that one has 14. My favorite class is also my biggest. I get more done with my 7th graders than anybody else. That probably has to do with the students themselves, but it just goes to show, size isn't everything.
     
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    I'm at a private school and I'll have about 16 students in my 4 classes--- same grade level and same subject.

    I've done 4 classes with a range of 20-30 students per class and handled that fine-- great students though and it was a public school.

    I really think it depends on the students, not so much the numbers. If you have 30 students and 25 of them are perfect angels and WANT to learn, it really helps you out. :)
     
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    As far as I know, GA is very strict about their class sizes. In pre-k and k, you cannot have more than 20. And in 1st, you can't have more than 21 and no more than 22 in 2nd and 3rd. I'm "fortunate" enough to not have a full size classroom, so they never put me over 18. They always fill the other K classes with 20 before giving me a new student. (I'm at 16 right now and have been almost all year. It's great except for when you have a couple absent, then it's like you have no class left at all.)
     
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    supersized classes

    I teach in Utah and we have big classes. This year I averaged 27 to 28 fourth graders. A couple years ago we had 34. Way too big! One year we started with 18 students, it was great! Of course it was too small. So we had to move a teacher and take her kids and I ended up with 29. Next year our 3rd grade will have 31 to 32. It becomes just management and herding. You can't get to all the students.
     
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    I have 17 right now, and have had up to 28. I would rather have around20. 17 is too few for groups.
     
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    When I taught kinder I had 20-21 throughout the year. Last year in second, I had between 18-20 throughout the year. It was great having 18!
     
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    The school I interviewed with last week had 12 students in their 4th grade class. They normally average 18 students.
     
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    I average 24-28..7th/8th grade
     
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    In Texas, more than 24 students in a science lab is considered unsafe, but since we have such a hard time finding teachers, the school still gives us 30 or so students. Major illegal!
     
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    I have 23 this year. Past years have averaged somewhere between 15-18. Personally, I like classes best when they are between 15-20 students. My 23 this year have just run me ragged, and I can't give the personal attention to the kids that really need it because I am so busy just trying to keep an eye on everyone and everything. Smaller classes are much easier to work with, teach, and enjoy IMO.
     
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    I average between 23-25, depending on what time of year it is. We have a lot of students that move in and out during the year.
     
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    We have the class-size amendment. K-3 can have no more than 18. Grades 4-8 no more than 22. This year they can do it based on whole school averages. Next year, it will be based on the physical number in the room. I have 17 right now in 3rd grade. I love it :)
     
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    Many schools are finding ways around the class size ammendment, especially in light of the recent budget cuts. Miami-Dade county is one of the worst hit and least prepared to deal with it. I'm not sure what we're going to wind up doing.
     
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    I teach 4th and I have 12. I started the year with 15. I love the small class size because I can individualize instruction so much more, but my 12 personalities this year are worse than when I had 24 in 4th. When they don't get along, there's not much you can do to separate. :(
     
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    I taught a class of 10 7th graders for math one year. It was a real nightmare because a couple were ready for algebra, a couple didn't even know their multiplication tables, and everyone else fell in various spaces in between. All that and I only had the group for 35 minutes.
     
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    I have 28 5th graders! It's rediculious! and it's so true, they feed off eachother. If one thinks something is funny, everyone does and it's hard to control if gets out of hand. I have had to become really strict this year and it's my first year. I use to b a softy but I was getting run over! =(
     
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    Im really surprised at how large most of the classes are from your responses. I hope Im fortunate enough to where I dont have to teach that much, to be totally honest
     
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    State laws restrict us to 20 kids at the kindergarten level, and 25 at 1st-3rd grade. I know that the numbers get slightly higher the older the children get.
    I would love to have a small class size, but when you have classes that are 20 or less (at our level) you're essentially wasting tax payer money. If your district can afford it, that's great. Most public schools don't have the option to have small class sizes. I can handle my 25, no problem.
     

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