class behavior in specials

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  1. monsieurteacher

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    It's the specials teacher's responsibility. That being said, if there is a problem, I have no problem talking to my students about it, since I'm the one that has built up the most rapport, generally.

    This year though, once they are in specials, they are no longer my concern. I hand them off to specials, and then I am out the door. (Ok, not usually, since I stay a little longer... but I COULD be out the door.)
     
  2. MorahMe

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    Maybe it's just because I'm a preschool teacher that I think this way, but the way I see it, if they go into a new room, and the teacher in that room has different expectations, they associate the expectations with the place and the teacher. When it's in your room, they get more confused, and it takes them longer to catch on to the changes.

    Other factor is whether or not you are required to be in the room at the same time as the specials teacher. One school I worked in did not allow teachers or aides to leave the room during specials. It took away authority from the specials teachers, and distracted the students. Of course they misbehaved, and the regular teachers had to help out with behavior management.
     
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    We have a specials teacher who will take the whole class back if they are bad and call me to come be with them. So, I lose my break because she can't handle the class. In my opinion that is wrong.
     
  4. MrsC

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    I completely agree with you--when the class is with another teacher, they are not your responsibility and you should not be called to deal with their behaviour.
     
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    I feel responsible for my class at all times. I don't want them to show respect only when I am present,as I feel then I am not teaching them the conflict resolution and character education skills they need to be a respectful person . I let them know I am disappointed with them if they misbehave when someone else is in the room and they will be held accountable for any misbehavior.
     
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    I would be unavailable and/or hard to find. :p

    Don't get me wrong. I'll fuss and verbally back up the specials teacher, but ultimately she/he needs to get it under control. However I won't take away recess because of her ineptitude. (Did I spell that right?)
     
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    That would tick me off. Prep time is sacred. Make sure you are hard to find/get a hold of!
     
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    We had so many complaints about specials teachers (and cafeteria staff) asking us to discipline problems in their classroom, that our admin told us this year that we are only allowed to write office referrals if we were there. It's nice to know that I am not going to be called in to explain a child's behavior when I was not in the room with them!
     
  9. TamiJ

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    lol. Me too!

    I think it is the specials teacher responsibility. I mean, we are expected to manage our classes well, so they should be too. They should come up with a system that works for them. We also had a specials teacher last year who would bring classes back if they were not well behaved. This never happened to my class, but I would have been extremely upset if it had. It's not like we can go take our kids to someone else (as a whole class) and walk away when they are misbehaving.
     
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    I think is cute how they call PE or Art or music specials. I like being special, I guess. Of course it is the teacher in charge to take command of a group. Now I have had groups come out to PE and can tell who is coming from a ship shape class and who is not but regardless, they will follow the rules and do what I say in PE or suffer the consequences. And of course we should communicate. If someone is having problems in PE I try to warn the teacher like I would like her to give me a heads up on potential issues coming from the inside to the PE field.
     
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    Once there was a fire drill and they were in her class. She is responsible for taking them outside so I did not go back to my classroom. Well she just told them to leave her room. They wandered around until another teacher found them and took them outside. It was only a drill but still...she drives me crazy sometimes.
     
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    Here is a question for you all. My students were badly behaved at gym today. The other 5th grade teacher is taking some of her kid's recess tomorrow because of the bad report. Should I punish mine also or not because it was not in my class? I was planning on punishing them to some extent
     
  13. Aliceacc

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    Sue, I would say it's up to the gym teacher to impose the penalty, not you.

    I don't punish for things that I don't see. If a parent calls me on a punishment I've given, I can defend it because I know what I saw. That's not true if I wasn't there. It's heresay.
     
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    When my kids misbehave in gym (as a class) they have to go to the gym and sit during recess. The coach issues the punishment and sits with them during the punishment. If only one or two kids were misbehaving the coach and I work together to issue punishment. He will tell them to pull their card, but I oversee the actual change and write the note in the folder at the end of the day. I would write something like "PE behavior" so the parent knows to speak to coach about it.
     

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