Christian school advice

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  1. whizkid

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    You can pray all day if you like, read your bible, whatever, you just can't tell children to join hands and pray or come here, let me read this to you. Now you're breaking the law. It's not trampling on your rights like many christians like to proclaim. School is for learning English, Math, Science, Social Studies, other subjects, not for "growing spiritually" or whatever. You can go to your place of worship and use your own money for that.
     
  2. Backroads

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    @whizkid , you are trying very hard to steer this back toward schools.

    This isn't about public schools, the stuff toward you.

    It's about your reactionary hatred against a group of people.
     
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    And since I've held this card in my pocket on this thread, I'll go on and pull it out.............
    JESUS WAS NOT CHRISTIAN OR A GOD! HE WAS HEBREW!
     
  4. Backroads

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    ...you have serious issues.
     
  5. whizkid

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    My posts have stayed on christianity in public schools until post #78. What have you been reading?
     
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    Your tone. Your little digs and accusations and stereotypes.
     
  7. whizkid

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    I'm not the one trying to force religion on school children. And anyone who thinks Jesus was christian is the one with serious issues.
     
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    No one does. Every one knows his ethnicity. Deity is, of course, a cultural/religious view.

    Your issue is the screaming it out like you have been gifted supreme knowledge. Oh, how special you are.
     
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    It's called studying. You should try it some time. You might be intrigued about the thousands of christian faiths around the world that aren't even on, as religious folks like to say, one accord. ;)
     
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    Wow, now you are just getting mean. Stop with the insulting...on Christians and on anyone who posts.
     
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    Why are you only quoting part of my post?
    The user said I thought I was special, which was an insult in the way she used it, but then again that just conveniently missed your eyes.
     
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    You stop already. We get it. You don't want God and do not want anyone else to know God either. Your hate towards the holy spirit is really unfortunate. Your comments are insensitive and uncalled for. This thread went the other way fast. It is now pointless.
     
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    Erm? I don't generally worship on the Sabbath? So I mean we just kinda hang out?? I mean they can go to church with him if they choose to do so by otherwise I'm usually home. And really I'm full of crap? That's so nice of you. Yes I married one. He wasn't a bishop at the time. But I mean I'm not going to justify anything to you so I mean if that's what you're hoping for.
     
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    It is force feeding them IMO but that's still your choice. I won't say you're wrong for it, and I won't say I'm right for how I feel about it because those are your kids and my opinion doesn't really matter. If that's how you want to do handle it, so be it. But who is ashamed of their faith? There's a difference between educating and force feeding.

    I think you mentioned elsewhere but I can't find the post why I brought my own religion into it. Because I know as a pagan, I would have been singled out immediately in that environment even as an adult. If we had had this entire conversation either not knowing my faith or assuming that I was Christian how different would it have been?

    But more over, as my favorite history professor would say "if you believe in the practice, you don't question it". Which is why I say op is here made this whole thread because they were uncomfortable with what they saw. They're questioning it. Because if it was just "kids trying to educate the unfaithful" they wouldn't have mentioned it.
     
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    Whizkid, I'm a little surprised they're still engaging with you, frankly. You complain earlier about a non sequitur but bringing up the ethnicity/divinity of Jesus is a gigantic one.

    Like you, I'm not fond of religious schools. And I do know that illegal proselytizing happens regularly in public schools (when lawsuits happen, it's because the situation was extreme enough, to people who weren't receptive and who didn't fear repercussions. Saying religious proselytizing is rare is a bit like saying sexual harassment of women in the workplace was rare prior to the mid-1980's).

    Your approach here, though, does nothing positive.

    Conversion attempts in schools happen, and when they do, the topic of he'll usually comes up. So, when it does, is it bullying? Maybe an analogy can show why some would consider it so, regardless of the presentation.

    Suppose a kid comes up to another kid and says, "if you don't believe I'm a nice person, Snuffleupagus is going to beat you up after school." Let's say that the kid saying this really believes this to be the case, isn't gloating over the idea of their classmate getting beaten up, and that the one they're saying it to doesn't believe in Snuffleupagus or that their classmate is a nice person.

    Essentially, it remains a third-party threat. That Christianity has incorporated such a threat into their official beliefs doesn't change what it is. Keep in mind also that the target her probably can't just suddenly believe that their classmate is a nice person any more than I could suddenly decide to believe I can fly.

    In a sense,I agree that the students aren't bullying -- because it's Christianity itself that's doing it.

    Now, there's plenty of good things that Christianity says as well -- love your neighbors, forgive your enemies, etc. In my experience, those come up far less frequently in conversion attempts.
     
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