Christian school advice

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  1. czacza

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    Subjected to? We know nothing other than its a Christian school. Which for many here represents good morals and philosophy. Stop bringing religious intolerance into this. The kids’ behavior can be addressed through Christian values. The kids and many here are misinformed .
     
  2. Aces

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    Sorry I believe in finding employment in non-toxic environments.
     
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    You are incredibly closed minded
     
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  4. Aces

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    Possibly. In my mind, any school that preaches a religious doctrine — regardless of the doctrine — is toxic. So if that makes me close minded, so be it. But I wouldn't be caught dead working there, would not dare send my kids there. And really it's nothing against Christians. I hate religious schools of any doctrine for minors.
     
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  5. whizkid

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    And bullying and harassment.

    "The kids’ behavior can be addressed through Christian values."

    Whatever. Next time, if you don't like the opinion, don't reply.
     
  6. whizkid

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    I take it you're Christian because some posts have struck a nerve. If that's the case, please don't use the words closed and minded together. Let's not even go down that road.

    If the user doesn't want to work at a christian school, who are you to tell the user otherwise?
     
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  7. whizkid

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    You're not closed minded at all. You're a free-thinker which is what all of us should strive to be. We have enough illegal proselytizing going on in public schools. We certainly don't need all of these religious schools indoctrinating children and ruining them for life.
     
  8. minnie

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    Wow. Just...wow.
     
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  9. greendream

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    Do you hate yeshivas?
     
  10. Aces

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    So let's ask ourselves if it meets the previously mentioned criteria. Is that a school that teaches a religious doctrine to children as part of their education? Based on your answer, what would infer the answer to be? (The answer is yes)
     
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  11. readingrules12

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    Wow, so you hate people you don't even know because of the group they are in? Isn't that called pre-judging which is also known as prejudice?
     
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  12. whizkid

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    Don't see where the user said he hated someone.
     
  13. Aces

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    Nope don't hate the people hate the institution.
     
  14. greendream

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    So you think kids should not be educated in religious practices? Various religions have stuff you have to learn, you know. If you're Jewish, there's Hebrew. If you're Catholic, there's Latin. Do you hate that schools exist to teach that to kids? Or is it broader--do you hate that kids are raised to be religious?
     
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    I hate the idea of teaching a religious doctrine to someone who isn't mature enough to decide for themselves what faith they'd like to follow. Yes educate about religion and the different options out there, no do not establish a school based on that religious doctrine.
     
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    Interesting. Do you think parents should be able to raise their kids in a certain religion?
     
  17. Aces

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    I don't think parents should force feed any religion to their child. Just because you're X religion does NOT mean that your child has to be. Just because X religion makes sense to you and explains the universe or whatever, does NOT mean that it'll make sense to your children. I don't believe in forcing kids to attend church on Sundays, I don't believe in reading your religious text to them on a regular basis, and I definitely don't believe in forcing them to attend a school that is going to shove that religious doctrine down their throats (aka all religion based schools).

    What I do believe in is encouraging your child to make an informed decision about what religious practice makes sense to them. Letting them do it on their time, when it comes to THEM. I believe in teaching, not preaching. I mean I married a Catholic. He's a Bishop at his Church. Have I ever set foot in his church? Once. And will probably one more time if he dies first. Does he preach to our kids? Oh yeah on a regular. Not because he says hey you're gonna listen to this Bible verse. But because they want to know. They consent to the information presented. Just the same if they read my books on witchcraft, voodoo, and the rest of the occult. Because they want the information.
     
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    Well here's a logistical question then. If you're an adult who's already made your informed decision to be religious, what do you do with your kids on the Sabbath while you're worshiping?

    You married a Catholic Bishop? Okay, now I know you're full of crap.
     
  19. Backroads

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    @Aces, while I get your issue with religious schools, I'm not sure what your Pagan faith has to do with it. You don't like religious institutions. Fine. What does paganism or whatever faith have to do with it?

    I think that's where the fight came in. By bringing in your faith, you made it sound like it was a bias against a group, not a philosophy.
     
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    What illegal proselyting? What makes it illegal if it's not being taught from authority in a government school?

    And who are you to say a person of a faith you are biased against is ruined for life? That's a bold claim.
     
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    I know we are on quite a tangent, but I personally have no issue with raising my kids in my faith. I will read scripture to them. I will teach them my beliefs. I'll take them to my church for their formative years because it's part of my family's culture.

    It's not force-feeding them, in my view. I have no intention of battling religion with them. No one will be punished.

    Besides, they will grow up and either stay with the faith or go to some other view no matter what I do.

    Why should I be ashamed of my faith?
     
  22. Backroads

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    But it's not bullying when kids of other beliefs harass Christian kids?
     
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    You're an educator, so it's probably fair to say you're familiar with cases of violations of the separation of church and state? Forcing children to pray? Distribution of bibles for religious purposes? Assemblies trying to get kids to convert? You know, the things christians like to do?
     
  24. whizkid

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    You're going to have to use those non-sequitir arguments elsewhere....
     
  25. readingrules12

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    You are stereotyping Christians. I am a Christian and taught in a public school with mostly Christian teachers, but we never did any of those things. Religion has been taken out of public schools, and we are told that we have to have our own schools if we want to teach people about a God who loves everyone and died for everyone-including you. If we pray in public schools, you say get lost. If we start Christian schools that is no good either. I am sure you wish Christianity would go away, but then many of the hospitals and most of the food kitchens to feed those who are hungry would disappear. Instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water, wouldn't it be better to look at each Christian and Christian school and point out strengths as well as weaknesses? Some people turned out well from Christian and/or Catholic schools. Mother Teresa turned out well and she was taught her faith at a very young age. The millions who were fed, clothed, and cared for by her and her sisters I'm sure are glad she got a religious education.
     
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  26. whizkid

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    Please, stop, just stop.
     
  27. Backroads

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    They are also the exception and called out as wrong. They're rare, which is why they make headlines when they happen. That behavior is far from the norm.

    No. If this thread is about bullying, it needs to be about the action, not the group.

    I get it. You have a bias against Christians. That's fine. But at least recognize it and work to be fair to all.
     
  28. Backroads

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    Well, are you painting with a broad brush or are you not?
     
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    Your non-sequitir is asking "But it's not bullying when kids of other beliefs harass Christian kids". You suggested that, not me.
     
  30. whizkid

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    Yea......when it's lawsuit time.
     
  31. whizkid

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    If Islam was the majority religion in this country and did the most proselytizing in public schools, you can bet your last dollar that christians would be the first to cry foul.
     
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    Isn't that what lawsuits are for? For righting injustice?

    You're the one that suggested all Christians bully.
     
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    You still need to prove this proselyting is the norm.
     
  34. whizkid

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    Pray all you want, just don't force it on others.

    "Religion has been taken out of public schools"

    Ummmm.......religion is still taught in some schools from a historical perspective which is all it should be.
     
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    Not me...and I am a Christian...so I guess that can't be true for Christians as a group. If you meet a Christian and he or she is mean, fine say something bad about him or her. No religion ever deserves to be stereotyped negatively as you are doing so.
     
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    You can pray all day if you like, read your bible, whatever, you just can't tell children to join hands and pray or come here, let me read this to you. Now you're breaking the law. It's not trampling on your rights like many christians like to proclaim. School is for learning English, Math, Science, Social Studies, other subjects, not for "growing spiritually" or whatever. You can go to your place of worship and use your own money for that.
     
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    @whizkid , you are trying very hard to steer this back toward schools.

    This isn't about public schools, the stuff toward you.

    It's about your reactionary hatred against a group of people.
     
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    And since I've held this card in my pocket on this thread, I'll go on and pull it out.............
    JESUS WAS NOT CHRISTIAN OR A GOD! HE WAS HEBREW!
     
  39. Backroads

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    ...you have serious issues.
     
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    My posts have stayed on christianity in public schools until post #78. What have you been reading?
     

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