Casey Anthony Trial

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  1. LUCHopefulTeach

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    I honestly can't believe that there's this much of an argument about leaving a porchlight on.

    Let those who want to turn their porchlight on alone. Seriously, it doesn't affect you in any way for there to be such an argument about it. For some, that is all they can do or are willing to do so its a positive thing. Not everyone can donate their time, money, and energy towards a specific cause. Not everyone would even know where to begin. Some realize or believe that these issues are too large or uncontrollable to truly make a difference. There is nothing wrong with remembering and being upset about this one case. In fact, at least people have enough decency to recognize that the death of this girl is tragic and the entire situation is tragic and unbelievable.

    By the way, if you're going to argue about the porch light not being productive then please explain to me how posting on this thread and continuing this specific argument is productive? This really isn't that much better or productive than tweeting or facebooking that your porchlight is on. :2cents:
     
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    I think that this case received so much media attention for two reasons-

    1) Casey Anthony was young, white, and attractive. She didn't look like she was capable. She didn't look like this would have happened to her. However, the more that came out the more people were shocked by what a monster she is and how un-motherly she was.

    2) Most cases of child abuse or murder have more evidence to the case- DNA, witnesses, confessions, stupidity. I read stories almost weekly about mothers/parents/people who kill their children however its always confirmed within the same week if not day that the mother, father, or whoever did it. Most are passionate crimes where evidence was left behind.
     
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    I'm very bothered by our discussion here and some of the holier-than-thou attitudes being shared repeatedly. Some are assuming far too much about the private decisions others make in regards to charitable or otherwise socially beneficial actions (more specfically the assumed lack thereof). It's disappointing that some are scoffing at the reactions people have had to the verdict, such as those who chose to turn their porch lights on, and giving directions to react in a different and apparently better, more productive way. Again, as though it's either/or. Turning a porch light on doesn't exactly drain most people of their week's supply of give-a-darn. I know at least I'm perfectly capable and eager to do more, and I do.

    I know we have a smilie for beating a dead horse, but I wish we had one illustrating coming down off your high horse... :(
     
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    :clap: :agreed: well said JustMe
     
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    Am I the only one who lives in a neighborhood where most people turn their porch light on (assuming it isnt automatic like ours is) in the evenings?
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. Ours stays on anyway, as do most of our neighbors.
     
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    My husband would freak—conserve energy, conserve energy! :)
     
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    Many of us have lights that store solar energy during the day. We also live in heavy wooded area and don't really like it being pitch black outside our door.
     
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    The solar lights would certainly be a great option. It's just not something we do now or grew up doing. There are absolutely no other lights around here at night except for the moon and stars, but I guess I either like it that way or I'm just never at the front of the house to notice or consider the darkess and or safety issues.
     
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    I so wasn't going to respond anymore but I just feel the need because this is basically directed at me. I feel like there's a whole lot of group think going on over here and because I'm not screaming and hollering about Casey needing to burned at the stake, I'm being holier than thou? Seriously? The point was that people should take all of their energy and really put it toward something good to help prevent this from happening again in the future. I am entitled to my opinion and gave it. You don't have to agree with me because it's a free country but I don't definitely don't have to agree with you, either. Additionally, the issue earlier was the notion that turning on your porch light was a call to action which I disagreed with. Lastly, having discourse through conversation is healthy and should not be shunned because I don't agree with your opinion.
     
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    Casey Anthony can get off with time served for being found guilty of lying to investigators. Roger Clemons could face MUCH MORE time for his part in the baseball juicing scandal.:dizzy:

    And while we're all distracted by this injustice, there is a gun running scandal going on involving the ATF and Mexican drug cartels. This has an impact on MANY Americans' safety, and yet I'd hazard a guess that most people concerned about Casey Anthony know NOTHING about the gun scandal.

    As dumbfounding and devastating this trial has been, why arent we informed of more pressing issues that potentially affect all of us?
     
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    Why assume that we aren't? The bulk of Casey Anthony coverage has been news magazine and tv news blog reporting. TV news channels cover what brings the splashy ratings.

    There are many news sources that provide in-depth coverage of many issues. I follow a variety of domestic and international papers, but usually go to Reuters.com for quick headline glances.
     
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    I doubt most Americans know anything about the drug running...yes, there are always the well read and informed...The point is the mass media focuses on what sells...
     
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    All of the stories that you mentioned have been on the front page of CNN repeatedly.

    I just hesitate to make sweeping assumptions that people are not informed. While true that many are not, there are also a great many who are.
     
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    I'm saying we aren't being informed by the mass media.. CNN and it's counterpart HLN are doing LOTS of Casey...my comment is one on the MEDIA...
     
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    I suppose it depends if people only watch tv or if they read online and print newspapers. I consider all of those to be mass media. I don't watch tv and don't have cable or a tv hookup.

    There is a large sidebar on CNN.com about the trial and aftermath, but there are also a lot of other links and articles, some of which are now more prominently displayed.

    I'm not trying to pick at your statement, but I find it irksome to continually be bombarded with this sort of condescending attitude about "stupid, uninformed Americans." (not referring only to your comment here, but a whole heap of them from various sources) I get it from my Irish family, and THEY aren't any more widely informed than anyone else either. I also got it when I lived in Europe, and again, half the time, whatever it was they were saying Americans didn't know, they weren't that well informed about either, or at least not in any way other than that spoon fed directly from their mass media sound bites.
     
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    Sounds like jurors are holding out for $ and other forms of compensation before speaking to the media. One juror is asking for money and another one got a free trip to Disney for her family.
     
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    Molly...Yeah, definitely not my intention....sorry if I set off some deep feelings of yours on this...and didn't mean to cause an extended hijack...
    and yes, TV and cable are COVERED with this case. No argument that it's a tragic story with disturbing results...just mulling on how some stories become THE STORY while other important issues don't get the same press...(despite knowing that news corporations have a 'bottom line' with which they are concerned and such stories 'SELL')
    Wow.
     
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    I'm an uninformed American. I'm not ashamed of it and I think it's a harsh reality of my generation.

    I didn't know anything about the drug cartel situation until Czacza mentioned it. In fact, unless it's in the Chicago Tribune, on the front page of MSN.com, my husband tells me, or makes it way onto my trash blog sites... I don't know about it.
     
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    Czacza (or others), do you think TV coverage is heavier than online and print coverage? I've only really noticed the coverage become inescapable within the past couple of weeks; before that it has been something you have to click through to find, or just a few links somewhere on the main news sites.

    It is interesting to consider what makes a case big news over others. I think the changing stories made this much more compelling. There is a lot to say about all parties involved.

    During the trial itself, there was also a lot of coverage over new, not-court-proven forensic techniques that was also very interesting. I wonder how this verdict will impact the use of hair and scent tests in the future?
     
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    I consider myself well-informed, but even so, I have to admit that there are weeks or months when I know a LOT more about what TMZ is covering than the WSJ or NYT.

    Sometimes the news is just DEPRESSING. With lots of wars going on, violence around the world, cascading economic depressions worldwide, politics as usual, blah blah, I would just rather go read about what some random celebrity wore to some random movie premiere.

    This mindset could play into the popularity of cases like this one too--its sort of news so people can follow it and feel that they are getting news without reading about natural disasters, Darfur, or increasing homeless populations.
     
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    There was talk today about shows like CSI and how it may set up jurors to think that all cases are like those on crime shows. The simple fact is that many cases are circumstantial...this one just wasn't as tight as it should have been to eliminate doubt...Also thoughts from some that had the prosecution waited longer to file the case there would have been a 'slip up' made sooner or later by one of the parties that would have tied up the loose ends better.

    As far as the 'not proven' forensics...you gotta figure all new techniques have to start somewhere. So while some of those forensics were new for this case, the research on such techniques continues and fine tuning/improvement in their validity will follow. Interesting though, right?
     
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    :agreed:

    Not everything is as clear cut as our great, super smart, super nerdy, asian forensics guy was able to work 10+ hours on this one body and find the one shread of evidence that couldn't be found before to link the body to it's killer! dun dun dun

    However, I also hoped that if I got jury duty it would play out exactly like Runaway Jury. :blush: :whistle:
     
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    Oh certainly. What I meant was that it made discussing them more interesting than otherwise.

    I am curious to see what will happen the next time these techniques are introduced in a courtroom.

    I follow forensic geology quite a bit; some of those techniques are not so much new as they are not used as often as they could be because most police departments don't have the capability without using outside experts. The field is definitely gaining a lot of (sorry) ground.
     
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    Juror is on ABC right now, just FYI.

    Oh, there is so much I want to discuss about not only this case but the whole freaking system...
     
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    They said this morning the owner of Equusearch (I know I probably spelled that wrong)-they use horses to help search for missing kids-is considering suing her. In that one month they had 4200 volunteers and it cost his non-profit 40% of what it takes in yearly, about 112,000. I think he'd have a good case considering she was found guilty on lying about her being missing. I hope he goes through with it.
     
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    Oh, I didn't hear that. I bet they'd have a good case, too. The judge kind of harped on the cost to the police department due to her lies.
     
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    I wonder how much she'll end up having to pay. How many lies did she tell? How much money was spent on a search for her daughter, who she knew (by her own admittance) wasn't even alive?
     
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    So when is the sentencing? I don't have my tv on.
     
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/07/casey-anthony-freed-next-week

    A Florida judge has sentenced Casey Anthony, the young mother cleared of murdering her two-year-old child, to the maximum four years in prison for lying to police about the circumstances of her daughter's death.

    But Anthony, 25, who appeared relaxed, laughing and winking in court, will be freed from jail next Wednesday because of the time she has already served while awaiting trial.
     
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    Well, that's going to be awkward homecoming, since she hasn't spoken with her parents since 2008. I heard that she might go stay with in aunt in Texas.
     
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    In Houston. :rolleyes:
     
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    Are you serious??
     
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    I haven't been watching this morning, but if she's put on probation, she won't be able to leave. I think the probation is from her felony check stealing charges. Remember, she stole over 100 hundred checks from her parents and she was convicted of those charges I think
     
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    I do wish she had been found guilty of at least child neglect, certainly one's child should not turn up dead and wrapped in a trash bag after a mysterious "accident".

    On another note, I am glad that forensic evidence is becoming an important factor in finding guilt or innocence. Thankfully, we have organizations like the Innocence Project which have gotten people out of jail who were wrongly convicted on circumstantial evidence mixed with prejudice (race, poverty, false accusations, etc).
     
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    Probation or not, if they determine that she would not be safe in Florida, they would make arrangements with authorities elsewhere to coordinate relocation.
     
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    Apparently Casey Anthony wants to write a book giving insight about love, life and most importantly god.

    Seriously?
     
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    I am really surprised that they didn't at least find her guilty for child neglect. How do you not report a fatal accident, for your daughter nonetheless, for 30 days?

    As for your statement about a child showing up dead, wrapped in a trash bag after an "accident", no that should never happen, and even less with duct tape around his/her mouth and covering his/her nose. But, I suppose "accidents" like that happen... Hmmm...
     

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