Casey Anthony Trial

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  1. Caesar753

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    And just a little more food for thought:

    According to the 2009 report of the FL Child Abuse Death Review, 198 children in FL were killed by abuse/neglect the year Caylee Anthony died. All of these deaths are tragic. You might consider asking yourself why this is the one you keep hearing about. Our media is broken. It is gripped with sensationalism, and we, in the name of those 197 children you've never heard about, have to do something to fix it.
     
  2. MrsC

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    Well said, Caesar!
     
  3. Mrs.SLF

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    :agreed:
     
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    I'm waiting for her reality show.

    I am also going to turn my porch light on tonight. It's a shame to me what the media turned this into (Tot Mom instead of even using her name). They were just debating whether that factored into it. If things weren't slanted toward Casey just because they didn't want what was going on in the media to enter into anyone's decision.
     
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    I definitely think she is guilty. However, the prosecution has their work cut out for them in cases that are largely circumstantial.

    There were problems with some of the evidence, including forensic techniques that had not been used in court before.

    The goal was not to prove that she "probably did it," but that she did it without reasonable doubt. In a case like this, that was an uphill battle.

    I really question the decision to try this as a capital case. They had nothing concrete to prove premeditation and intent. It unraveled from there.

    I am convinced she did it, but do any of us know exactly what happened? Could it have been a badly covered up accident? Could it have been premeditated? Could it... That's the problem here, as far as I can tell.

    I think she did it, and she is badly screwed up, but I'm getting tired of news saying she was laughing and giggling etc. The woman just found out she didn't get the death penalty. She can't show relief and let the nerves out without that meaning something sinister? What I saw was alternately between crying, relieved nervous laughter, and some shock. I'm not defending her, but I think the sensationialistc reporting and media coverage contributed to the state pushing for unrealistic charges, and that ultimately let to her getting off almost entirely.

    Tragic case, for sure.
     
  6. each1teach1

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    Nancy Grace herself turned me off to this case. I think about how vicious and aggressive she was in the Duke LaCrosse Players case and the case with the mother of Baby Trenton who ended up committing suicide.

    But back on track, I think it's a tragedy that Caylee is not here and will never get to fulfill her potential. Who knows what she would have gone on to do. Any if Casey Anthony had anything to do with this, I don't know how she can live with herself. But I didn't follow the case because the news stations will always tell me the defendant is guilty and that I should hate them as scum of the earth. However, we all know that there are innocent people in jail and guilty people walking free. I'm not going to let the news media tell me what to believe. Is Casey Anthony guilty? I don't know, but as a believer, I believe that she'll have to answer to an ultimate authority either way some day and the Bible is specific about murder and those who hurt innocents, particularly children.
     
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    Where is she? The maid has her.
    Ok
    Wait there is no maid or child care lady.
    Where do you work/ Disney Ok
    let go visit, Not really I was kidding.
    When did you last see her, a month ago?
    Ok But you talked to her just the other day.
    What is that smell (many said human) just pizza and
    trash.
    Ok now I got it. She drowned in the pool and we just threw her
    in the woods to throw everyone off. btw I was just out partying the whole time she vanished because my dad and brother molested me. ....................................

    I am also mick jaggers lover and belong to MENSA.

    They certainly seemed to have found a jury of HER peers.
     
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    The faux media turned it into a circus and now it
    is like a disease that spread quickly. The sooner her face
    is out of the media the better off we all become.
    I hope she is done with bars because Im sure there are a few
    bar girls waiting to take their shots (and not booze)
     
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    This is just my guess- There was most likely no doubt or need for trial with the majority of those other cases due to confessions, witnesses, or more concrete evidence.
     
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    It's disgusting that the defense party went out to celebrate. That is so unprofessional regarding the circumstances. This is not something to celebrate.
     
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    here' s my last words . . .

    let's have a party in clear view of the world, champange, clapping, back slapping, laughing, high-fiving meanwhile ~ Caylee decomposed in the trunk of a car, was tossed into the woods, ANIMALS CHEWED HER BONES, her mother NEVER reported her missing, lied about everything concerning Caylee for two years . . . . I don't get the jubilation at all ????
     
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    In response to the media frenzy, I hope none of us buy her book or watch her made for TV movie if we truly believe in her guilt.
     
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    How many hours of manpower did the police have to put in looking for this child, when she knew where she was the whole time-maybe to the detriment of helping other families on other cases? How many millions of dollars did this trial cost?

    To me, if she was really innocent, she would have come forward in the first place and admitted what she did. Not until the trial did we hear the story about Caylee drowning in the pool-that's why I don't believe it for a minute-it was a defense strategy in my mind. She has just wasted so many people's time and energy.
     
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    Because she was found guilty of some things, it sounds possible that the judge could find a way to restrict her from profiting, or so some of the talking heads seem to believe.
     
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    Does anyone know if the state/county/city agencies that assisted with the search could require her reimburse them for the cost of the search?
     
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    Wouldn't consider it.
     
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    As a nation, we lose so many children each year in tragic circumstances. I wish some of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that was spent on this case could have been shared with other agencies or families suffering their own losses. Really, why was this case so much more important than any other?
     
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    LOVE it!!!

    Isn't there still a suit against Casey that Zenaida Gonzalez filed? (I butchered her name.... forgive me!)

    Mollydoll, I heard the same thing, that Judge Perry may restrict her from profiting from her stories.

    Swansong, I'm sure the fact that Casey Anthony is a very attractive young mom (I use the term "mom" very loosely) helped a bit.

    I wonder what, if any, bar complaints were filed against the attorneys on both sides.
     
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    Judge Perry indicated several times that he would be bringing sancations against Baez in his court and filing complaints with the Flordia bar.
     
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    I haven't followed this beyond knowing the general details and reading the thread on here-I can't stand the process and just want to know the ending. But even I was stunned at the verdict today.

    Because I wasn't following, I'm curious why there might be sanctions?
     
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    Swan, I also believe that Casey being a cute, young mother influenced how much attention the case received. It's been demonstrated time and time again that when an attractive person is involved in a crime there is more media attention and or public interest.

    Missing "unattractive" college student versus missing "beautiful" college student? The beauty wins every time. :(
     
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    Several times Baez questioned his witnesses on opinions that were not in the original reports. Judge Perry from the beginning, said the expert witnesses could ONLY testify to their opinions in the reports. I think Baez did this about 4 times and Judge Perry was very angry. Baez also called expert witness that had not be desposed (not sure if that is spelled right) on what Baez wanted them to testify about.
     
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    She doesn't have to profit from a movie being made about her. They can write and make a movie about the situation and trial without involving her or payong her a dime.
     
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    I watched a show on E the other day and thought the same thing it was like "Young, Beautful and Vanished". I wondered if they actually sifted through photos to choose who was "beautiful" enough.

    I don't know that the judge could keep her from profiting since she was only found guilty on misdemeanors. Usually profits go to the families of the victims-but she is the family.

    People have a morbid fascination with people like her. They want to know what really happened, they want to know why? Mark my words-her book will be a bestseller even if people are just looking for possible answers.
     
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    Some are finding fault with her being happy with verdict
    She was Facing the DEATH penalty and now not even facing time she will probably get time served. I'd be "Happy"

    We Live in America our laws give us the right to a jury trial.
    I believe jury was 7 mothers, 4 grandpas and an Uncle.
    There just wasn't enough evidence to convict.

    Would you just want to be judged on opinion and no substantial evidence?

     
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    My daughter is 2 years old. She has huge brown eyes like this poor little girl. I couldn't stop kissing her all day today...the whole thing breaks my heart. I watch my little pixie dancing around barefoot in the sprinklers, giggling at everything...and I just.don't.get.it.

    If there's one positive to come out of such an ugly situation, I'm sure it's that LOTS of families are squeezing their little ones a little tighter tonight and feeling a renewed appreciation for the gift of parenthood.

    Now...time to go powder someone's bottom and put her to bed!
     
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    I'm not going debate what I believe, and I'd appreciate if others didn't attempt to argue why I'd be wrong :), but this is my opinion: I could have comfortably found her guilty. I really, truly believe that.

    I'm sad and I'm shocked and I'm angry about today's events. But I'm going to try to let it go...I have a tendancy of getting too wrapped up in my anger or inability to understand certain things and that will only serve to make me more upset.
     
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    :agreed:
     
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    :agreed:

    I feel the same way.
     
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    Porch light is on.
     
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    I can't claim to know much about this trial, did not follow it at all. I did spend time with someone this weekend who watched in intently though. They were suprised at the verdict, but did say that it was all circumstantial evidence. With no hard evidence and no proof of how she died, I would agree that it is hard to convict.
    I have always thought; I would rather a guilty person go free than an innocent person go to jail. Neither is ideal, but one is worse than the other.
     
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    I didn't follow the trial at all. I was surprised at the verdict, but beyond that know very little of the details.

    But my sister was a juror on a nationally know case a few years ago. They also gave a very unpopular "not guilty" verdict after deliberating.

    To this day, she won't tell anyone she was a juror on that case. (The judge warned them not to before the case got started. Either way a powerful group of people was going to be unhappy with the verdict. )

    She lost a lot of sleep and some weight over the atrocities she heard of and the photos she saw while a juror on that case. She did what she thought was best-- she gave the verdict she did based not on what was in the papers but on what she saw in the courtroom and the law as it was explained to her.

    I hear so often about people trying to get out of jury duty. My sister, like the people on the Casey Anthony jury, did her civic duty. It would have been easier to give the popular verdict. But morally she, like them, couldn't do that.

    Of course I feel terrible that that young child died. But right now I also feel sorry for the members of that jury. They did what they thought was right. And people all over the country who were NOT in the courtroom, who don't know the letter of the law, who were NOT in that jury room have decided that they didn't do their job well.

    That bothers me. A lot.
     
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    Russell Huekler, the alt juror, made several references to "we" in his interviews which showed that the jurors did not heed the judge's admonitions and did actually discuss the case before deliberations. When asked why GA would allow Casey to face the DP for an accident, he laughed and said that was a good question and really needed to be answered.

    Still and all, no aggravated child abuse/neglect charge for the 31 days? Extraordinarily incomprehensible. Mothers everywhere: tired/bored with your child? Duct tape them, throw this out like trash. No prob.

    Casey will probably be shunned by the media just as OJ was. Remember, his book didn't sell . . .

    Hmmmm . . . perhaps now is the time to consider professional jurors.

    What a colossal miscarriage of justice.
     
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    Actually, it's not a miscarriage of justice but rather an example of how our justice system works. I've stated it before but if the shoe were on the other foot and you were facing criminal charges, you would be grateful for our court system versus living elsewhere where you are guilty until proven innocent. Granted, Casey was deemed in the media guilty before she was proven not guilty (note: I didn't say innocent since I, nor anyone else for that matter, knows the truth about what happened to the little girl). The prosecution had to prove she was guilty beyond reasonable doubt and didn't do that. The jury did what they had to do based on the evidence presented to them. That's that. Maybe people should stop directing their anger toward the jury and more to the state that failed to prove their case. :2cents:
     
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    I have no intention of reading anything other than the paper. I didn't watch the media circus that was the trial.

    I think that maybe our efforts would be better spent working to avoid further losses.

    Lots and lots of young kids die each year because of disease and preventable accidents. Why not pledge to help find a cure to leukemia or drunk drivers or any of the other causes of death for young kids? How about pledging to donate time and money to schools in lower income areas so young kids can receive a quality education and break the bonds of poverty?

    Why not prevent the NEXT loss instead of putting on a porch light? Isn't THAT the message we should be sending-- that there should be no NEXT child death??? Let's pledge to find all those kids whose pictures adorn the sides of milk cartons. Let's end hunger in this country. Let's find a cause and a cure for autism. Let's work on finding a cure to breast cancer so kids grow up with a mom. Let's see how we can keep kids in school so they'll have a real shot at a life. Let's work on eliminating gangs and cyberbullying.

    My porch light was on last night-- it's on EVERY night. My heart goes out to that poor, poor child.

    But Caylee can't be helped at this point. SO MANY young children are in incredible jeopardy at this very minute.

    I'm not on facebook, but is there a page devoted to each of these causes?? Those 1,400,000 members could do an awful lot of good for an awful lot of young kids.
     
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    I didn't watch or pay attention to the media, either. I actually listen very little to television news because there is no balance in delivery of information. At all. Being on facebook, I was amazed by how many status updates there were about the trial and the porch light memorial last night. I am always amazed by the interest in high profile cases but there seems to be less interest in the countless other children that have suffered a similar fate or are suffering right now. I'm sure there are facebook pages for all of the other diseases and causes you mentioned above but they're not as en vogue right now. Having worked in very low-income schools my entire career, I've seen a number of disconcerting atrocities toward the children I've worked with but they've never gotten any of the media attention.
     

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