Discussion in 'Job Seekers' started by rookieABC123, Jun 20, 2008.
Jul 24, 2008
It is amazing how political some systems are when it comes to hiring.
I am originally from Berwick, PA. I moved to NJ/Philly area for student teaching. I am still "living" there with my boyfriend, but I came home (Berwick) for a few weeks to make arrangements so we can move back home. I just wasn't getting crap out there. The place I couldn't WAIT to get away from is offering me more than any other place. Plus, I had NO connections out there. I found out rather harshly in the last 2 weeks that YOU...NEED...TO...KNOW...SOMEONE...or mommy and daddy have to be teachers. The new H.S. principal is a childhood friend of mine so He got me an interview...just for subbing..SOLD! WHATEVER I'LL TAKE!
You never know what's around the corner, folks. I interviewed at an amazing charter school last month and just missed the cut. Well, now there's another opening and they want to reinterview me. WHOOT!
SMALL WORLD!! I'm originally from Kingston!
Thinking outside the box or stepping out of the box...
is what got me a job! I signed a letter of intent with a rural district today. Months ago I would have never given it consideration, but because I wasn't having much luck elsewhere, I thought I'd give it a try. It was interview #10! Very frustrating to endure all those interviews, but each one built upon the prervious one. The great thing is that the pay is higher than any of the other three districts that I interviewed in and that the commute is stop light free! I am now going to be a kindergarten teacher!
On the way home today, I got a call for another interview in one of the districts that I had already interviewed in. It's a brand new school. I'm going to go just for the heck of it! Wouldn't it be funny if they actually wanted to hire me? Too bad, too sad! I interviewed for five positions in that district already and wasn't hired.
While just typing this, I got a call to interview for a 6th grade position that is actually in another state.
I had my first interview in April and they seem to come in clusters. Don't give up and think outside of the box and perhaps out of your comfort zone! I will to continue to keep everyone who's still waiting in my prayers and thoughts.
mom2sands, BIG TIME CONGRATS TO YOU!!!!
I hope I have the same luck...
I had a screening interview today and I'm happy to say it went well. The downside is that it was only 25 minutes long (and I can talk...) and when there were only five minutes remaining, my interviewer and I had to rush to make sure all of the questions and answers were covered. I felt a bit rushed when giving my responses, but fortunately my interviewer was very understanding.
OH, and I made a tri-fold brochure to give to her along with my resume... she seemed impressed by that. I also printed out my classroom procedures (it was an assignment that I did in grad school that I fixed up after completing my LTS assignment) and she seemed to love that as well. I have to admit, it was pretty cool when she asked me about classroom management and I was able to pull this folder out. She briefly flipped through it while I told her about my classroom management.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this will lead to interviews with schools.
Unbelievable. And SO not fair.
Thanks, RainStorm!!! I do too!!
Warning to all, do not mix the Tums with antibiotics as bad results may follow. :|
Go and sign up as a sub in several districts. When they ask, if you are interested in a full time job, say yes. But don't be deterred from completing a sub package. They may call you as soon as next week, and say the need subs for the new year, when those new candidates chicken out, things happen, and they need certified staff.
or join me at Wal-Mart... and do both... :unsure:
This makes bad blood all around. If you can't or don't want to pull your kids out, I certainly wouldn't sub with them, no matter how tight things get. Sub with somebody else! No other districts? Go private/church based schools! It's been well documented in our forum that some districts don't want to hire us, they rely on good subs. We get paid, and retirement funds, but no benefits and nothing stable. They feel it is a win-win situation. We get paid, they have classes covered. So I wouldn't spend my energy and self-esteem looking at this people. Get your kids educated, but get your bacon somewhere else. IMO!
I'm still waiting to hear from two of my interviews. One sent me a rejection already. I'm hoping for the other two.
I'd go to all of them as well. You just never know in this world these days. Stranger things have happened (to me in this year and last year alone!) For example, landed pre-school job and they wouldn't pay me. Hired for a job, and they let me go after 2 months. Just because you have an offer, I would not hesitate to interview. Heaven forbid somebody recinds your offer, but hey..if so...you already have irons in the fire!
You might decide to serve on the board, and that might be a better position for you, while keeping the offer in the other district. I know someone who is on the board of another district, while serving as a principal in her own. That is not considered a conflict of interest, but rather a benefit for improving her professional development and community activism.
And if companies and school districts do this to us, I say we should do the same!
Why do you think companies put in blind ads for jobs? They really don't want employees to know they are about to get the ax. I think that sucks! You apply for another job and find out your company is hiring (possibly for your same position), and you had to go outside to learn this!
we gotta kiss a lotta frogs...
I've got some massive warts from it all.......
Jul 25, 2008
"The world is getting smaller. I went to prep school in Kingston. I have been searching for a math job forever. Pass the bottle with a straw!"
I just had to worse nightmare ever! One of my interviewers came to my house to turn me down. When I asked why, they said I was the worse interviewee and that the state had me ranked at 65th position to get a job (whatever that means). I hope its just the greasy McD I ate last night and not a sign of things to come
THEY CAME TO YOUR HOUSE?
Are you familiar with this interviewer? I just think that is COMPLETELY unacceptable. Do we go stomping of to their homes to apply for jobs--- Oh my goodness-- I don't have words for how livid I would be if that happened to me. Be happy you did not get the job--- Imagine how they would handle it if they were unhappy about your performance, or worse yet, the advice they give to a parent that is unhappy. geez!
Uhmmmm, Tiffany? It was a dream!
oh ... I thought she was describing the event as a nightmare-- well.. alright then
You just made my day! I wouldn't even know what to do if that happened in real life... But I'll tell you, it was the most realistic dream I ever had!
I had real interviewers call me at 10:30 p.m., and pratically give me a phone interview for 1 1/2 hours, like it was no big deal!
A few called around 8:30pm, 9:00pm. I guess they were home from work, but still working. And I also figured they must think that I am at home, and couldn't possibly be doing anything... :|
For those who don't like tums....here's a recipe you can try...
You put the lime in the coconut, drink them both up,
You put the lime in the coconut, drink them both up,
You put the lime in the coconut, drink them both up,
Put the lime in the coconut, you such a silly teacher!,
Put the lime in the coconut, drink them both together,
Put the lime in the coconut, then you feel better.
Put the lime in the coconut, drink them both down
Put the lime in the coconut, and call me in the morning
Can we join the club if we are currently playing the waiting game? I have went through a roll of tums tonight, but could really use some rum.
Jul 26, 2008
Sure you can join. We are all playing the waiting game here.... Waiting to see how many bottles of Rum and rolls of Tums we can go through in a summer!
Good luck to you though--I hope you hear good news soon.
Thank you for clarifying that-I was completely freaked out!
In NYC once you obtain a job,much harder then it used to be,you have 3 years to prove you deserve tenure. Once you obtain tenure you pretty much remain in your school unless you do something that requires you be removed and in that case you are entitled to a hearing.We do not sign yearly contracts.
I am curious how it works in your areas? Do you need to be renewed each year?Why do so many people,who seem to be excellent teachers,need to switch schools so frequently,or does it seem that way to me while I am reading this forum.I feel very bad for all the suffering many teachers have to go through to get a job.
Where I am in California you get two years before tenure. However, what ends up happening is that first and second year teachers tend to get cut if principals have even the slightest doubt about them. They'd rather cut someone than have to give them tenure.
But, honestly, how stupid is that? Cutting someone just because you have the tiniest of doubt? I was non re-elected after my first year. Yeah, I had classroom mangement issues, but I was a first year teacher with only 8 weeks of student teaching experience. My second year was light years better than my first. But my first principal will never know that. It's as if they believe that a first year teacher is incapable of growth.
I'm in Florida which is a "right-to-work" state. We can be non-renewed for any reason our first three years. Once we hit year four, we get some security. The big downer in FL is that you can be fired at any time during your first 97 days. After the 97 day mark, they have to keep you until the end of the year. Cuts are made based on seniority. Since I was non-renewed I am starting form year one in seniority. I am really hoping to get another classroom.
There was an article in a NY paper last week bragging about how many more teachers were denied tenure this year than last,it still was a pretty small number.If it was up to our mayor,the so-called savior of our school system-HA-HA-HA,he would deny tenure to everyone and move teachers to other schools or dismiss them at will.We are lucky in that we still have a pretty strong teacher's union.By the way,the only thing our great mayor has done is dumb down the tests from third grade through HS so the children seem to be making progress.
Jul 27, 2008
I forgot the 97 day thingy in FL. I remember being so stressed about it that we went out to eat when it hit day 99! Indiana is a right to work state too. In my last district they wait until the end of the year to decide to renew or not. You have two years of "non-permanent" status, then 3 more of "semi-permanent", which is the same thing except there are a couple more CYA clauses in the contract.
Actually, a right to work law allows employees to decide for themselves whether or not to join a union. Basically, you can not be denied work if you choose not to become a union member.
It's this three year probation period that allows Principals to fire an employee without having to justify their reason.
I think "at-will" was what was meant: (From nolo.com) An at-will employee can be fired at any time, for any reason (except for a few illegal reasons, spelled out below). If the employer decides to let you go, that's the end of your job -- and you have very limited legal rights to fight your termination.
Yes, that is exactly what I meant! My aphasia kicking in already!
Jul 28, 2008
Well, I think things might be looking up for me. Finally. I really thought I was going downhill there. My boyfriend of 2 1/2 years FINALLY proposed to me. He did it Saturday at on the beach at Ocean City, NJ. Lol. I have an interview today for this brand new gorgeous casino built in Wilkes Barre, PA. The interview is for bartending. So, if subbing doesn't work out this year I have that to fall back on. Also, I am dropping off more sub. applications and sending ONE MORE application in to a S.D. that had an ad in the paper. That's it. One more. I'm burnt out after that. ONE MORE MONTH GUYS! THEN THE FUN BEGINS.
Best of luck at your interview--- I am from Wilkes Barre, I am good friends with the people that will be interviewing you. PM if you would like to talk
Congrats on your engagement!
Congrats on the engagement, Ennasus03!!! How romantic
I formally withdraw my enrollment in the Rum, Tums, and Depression club... I got the call! I'm going to be a middle school teacher!!!!