CA Credential Extensions

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  1. jen12

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    My CA prelim credential is set to expire at the end of the year. As of now, I still don't have a job set that will send me through BTSA to clear the credential. In looking at the info that I have from the CTC website, it looks as if:

    A three year extension can be granted once.

    Beyond that, a two year extension can be granted if one is employed but unable to complete BTSA within that time.

    Thirdly, a one-year extension can be granted once in order to complete BTSA.

    By my calculations, this means that I must find full-time employment and begin BTSA no later than four years from now.

    Truthfully, I'm going to have to find an alternative soon if this doesn't work out anyway.

    Am I correct on this though? You basically have eight years, because the final three years of extensions are only granted if you are in full time employment doing BTSA?
     
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    I don´t really know but am in the same boat. I had contacted the California Commision on Teacher Credentialing and since I am in MX they recommended me not to do anything but let it expire and when I return I can get an extension. I would think they should be a bit lax on this given the current economic status.
     
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    It's pretty insane. A few years ago, there was a shortage and they were cutting corners to get people in the classroom. Then suddenly, the economy drops out and budgets are cut and teachers are out on their backsides. In the midst of all this, they completely rewrite the process for keeping licensed in CA and make it next to impossible to hang on through the economic downturn because in order to be fully licensed to get a job, one has to HAVE a job in order to complete licensing requirements.

    There have to be thousands of people in the same boat. Something has to change or they'll be in a crisis again.
     
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    Well let me know if you find out anything for sure. Like I said, I am in the same boat. I only am not fretting much about it because I have my MAT which allows me to teach in my current school, so if the credential expires I am still good. When I return to the states, however, I will need a current credential.
     
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    I vote we get rid of BTSA. :D

    But really, I do. It's a waste of time, a waste of money (for the state) and SO difficult to complete for so many people who haven't found jobs.

    They need to either get rid of it or completely revamp it so that it is possible to complete it some alternate way without paying through the nose.

    Jen - I can't help you with the specific deadlines, but I will ask - is it possible for you to move? I've noticed there are usually jobs in the south central valley and some other areas of the state. Charters are usually hiring. I got a job at a charter and I love it, so they're not all bad like many people say. Even if it's not something ideal or your first choice, it would be a good way to clear the credential and get some experience..?
     
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    Ha! I don't think anyone would argue with you on dumping BTSA!

    Yes, it's possible for me to move. It's not my ideal, as it would involve taking on debt for a move and buying furniture for an apartment, but it's not impossible. I'm even considering places as rural as Yermo at this point. I figure, worst case, two years would clear the credential and I could go out of state if CA is still bad. I'm finding the problem is that when someone with only subbing experience is up against someone with classroom experience, the classroom experience wins out. I've heard some pretty horrid things about charters, but you've gotta do what you've gotta do. At this point, I'm willing to try almost anything.
     
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    I think if it's a pretty established charter, you'd be safer. Mine has been around for more than a decade and the turnover is very low.

    Good luck to you. I know this state is just so tough...I really hope something works out for you this year!! :hugs:
     
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    Also look into private schools in SoCal. I have been employed in two, and many of the ones in West LA have positions for associate teachers-a coteaching position that caters to new teachers.

    I know it doesn't help for everyone, but I've found great success in a company called CalWest. They help send out your resume, and you pay one small flat fee ($30?). The schools are really the ones that shell out $$ because they use the company as a pre-screening process to help them weed out resumes. Good luck!
     
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    My vote is for dumping BTSA!!! I think it would save a lot of money for the state and reduce stress for new teachers. I'm fine with having a mentor teacher, I'm not okay with all the extra paperwork and requirements.

    I have called the CTC many times about this issue and most specialists are not very knowledgeable about this problem:( I had better luck with my county office of education.

    So as subs, our alternatives are to pay and do a program through Claremont College ($12,000), UCLA ($7,000), Azuza (?), or SDSU (no start date yet). I think Long Beach Unified also has a program for their subs.

    You can go to another state and teach for several years and then come back. Something I have been looking into.

    You are right about the extensions, however I was always told not to expect to be granted one and I had to wait until right before.:mad:

    If you got your original credential out of state you are limited to a 1 year extension, according to the CTC. However, CA educated teachers can get a 3 year extension and then a one or two year extension if you get a job before your credential expires. That is what they explained to me.

    They also said to just let my credential expire and then get an extension when I got hired, but who is going to hire someone with an expired credential? In my experience most districts don't look at applicants with expired documents, so I think that is a strange suggestion.

    Anyway, it has become one more thing to stress about and I really wish they would just cut us some slack since it is so difficult to get a job in California.
     
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    I ca tell you this, if they dont let us renew our credential--my school WILL revolt.
     
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    CalWest is a waste of time...I was with them for a few years and then they dropped me. I didn't see much is hiring with CalWest and I attended many all day job fairs too. Lots of people but the majority are not selected.
     
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    What is the process to get extended? Is it simple, or is it something that someone like me (who's extension will expire this October I think) should get on right away? Is it as simple as a few mouse clicks? Or do I have to FILL. OUT. YET. ANOTHER. APPLICATION. (or write yet another letter about myself).
     
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    I vote for getting rid of TPAs and BTSA! There have to be better ways to make sure teachers are qualified without torturing them in the process.
     
  15. John Lee

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    Can anyone advise on this?

    I'm a bit worried today, as my credential has not been extended to this point. I received an automated e-mail, of their receipt of my application to extend (on 8/26 I believe). The e-mail included a link to my credential page, to be checked (unless I read it wrong) in 48 hours (presumably with updated credential). To date, it reflects only my expiring credential.

    I'm going to call their office when they open, but at this point I'm a bit worried. I'm simply a preliminary holder, who's worked in good faith & looking for work the past five years, and I've not been able to find a teaching job. I assumed it to be a "rubber stamp" process...
     
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    I went in and talked to someone at the department of education personally. I was told you can teach somewhere else for 2 years and clear your credential that way, bypassing BTSA. However, like HeartDrama said--your credential will never go to waste as long as you can prove your searching.
     

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