Bus Duty

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  1. TeacherKay9

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    Problem:
    All of our teachers have 2 duties a week, could be one before school and one after. Most are about 30 minutes long (breakfast duty, car riders, walkers). I do bus duty once a week that lasts anywhere from 1 to 2 hours after the regular dismissal time. It drives me nuts! Teachers who work our off-site afterschool program (for $$) only do morning duty. I proposed that only our non-homeroom staff do duty, but I have a feeling that won't fly. (I worked in another school where that worked really well. The admin's thinking was that teachers stay late anyway - why not let them be preparing for the next day instead of doing duty.) How is duty handled at your school? Does every person on staff do duty? What kind of amount of time does it take? Should I just suck it up about having duty for that long? I don't see the busses coming any earlier during my lifetime. Would appreciate any thougts/feedback. Thanks! (Just curious from those of you in states with teachers' unions - what would be the guidelines from a union on duties like this?)
     
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    We have duties as well but not 2 a week. Classroom teachers have bus duty about every 5-6 weeks (we have a big staff) and it only takes about 15 mintues at the most (unless there is a broken down bus that is late) to do. There are about 5 of us on bus duty a week, located in different areas of the bus pick-up. Then, we have staff lounge duty as well that we share with another staff member.

    The specialist staff also have duties before and after school but since there are fewer of them, they have to do it more often. They do the crosswalk and greet at the door in the morning as well as the crosswalk at the end of the day. The logic behind that is that the classroom teachers are to greet the students at the classroom door in the morning (although some don't). Also, the specialist classes don't start until about 20 minutes after school does.

    As far as our union goes, I don't think it would fly, especially for hours after the end of the day. We are contracted for 7.5 hours per day and are paid an additional amount of money to work 10 days (75 hours) above and beyond that doing duties that a teacher would need to do. After that, they cannot enforce those "other" duties upon us...in reality, it is just a courtesy that we provide in order to make our lives easier and the place cleaner.:angel:
     
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    What can you actually do on bus duty that last 1-2 hours?
     
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    I don't like the extra duties either. Everyone on our staff has something to do, and I am supposed to do "curb duty" on Monday mornings 8:10-8:20, getting PreK and K kids out of the car as their parents pull up since we are on a busy street. When I decided to teach older kids, it was partially so I wouldn't have to do things like tie shoes and blow noses. My 7th and 8th graders can get out of the car on their own, and I think the PreK/K teachers should be out there, not the rest of us who have kids waiting outside our doors at 8:20 (when curb duty ends AND when first period is supposed to start). I'm so happy they are moving all the PreK and K to our other campus next year, so we will only be 5th-8th!!! My other duty is taking the 7/8 after-school kids to the library and waiting for the after-school teacher to get there, usually only a couple of minutes later. I don't mind that duty as much, but I hate interrupting my Monday mornings to go get little kids out of cars. Ugh.
     
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    We have morning duty every 5-6 weeks at my school for 1/2 hour before school starts. We are allowed to leave at the same time the kids do. Leftover kids can sit by the office until they are claimed. Bus students will wait with aides who work later by contract than we do.
     
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    My school has duty too. The classroom teaches have morning duty for 15 minutes every other week. This is when the students enter the school and line up to get ready for the morning. We are also asked to walk the kids out at dismissal time and stay with our class until they are all picked up, but that is not an official "duty".

    Anyone who is not a grade level classroom teacher has duty every other week as well. They either work in the front hallway when the kids are coming in or at the place where bus students are dropped off. Everyone in the school has a duty every other week. It works out nicely for us:)
     
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    Majorhunt, we have bus duty that long because it takes anywhere from 1-2 hours for all of the different busses and daycare vans to pick up all the students. We consider it a "good" day of duty if we're out of there within one hour - but that's been only once this year. We're a magnet school so kids are bussed all over our county, which is why it takes so long for busses to get to us to pick up. It's not fun. The kids work on homework, when they have some, and then work on coloring sheets or word puzzles i run for them. I wish we could do something more productive with them too, but we never know what time each bus is coming which makes it a pain to try to get them into something like crafts or tutoring etc during that time. I just know there's a better way, but i'm just not sure what it is yet! :)
     
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    The teacher aides do bus duty in our school. Everybody rotates lunch duty (once a week) equally though.
     
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    We have one duty a week. We have duty for two weeks, and then we're off the third week. The duties are evenly divided so that no one teacher does more than another.
     
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    If you are in a union, duties are usually outlined in the contract. I have no required duties but do get paid extrafor working an afterschool dismissal/traffic position duty.
     
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    i have lunch duty for 3/4 weeks per/month, for about 20 min. i also have recess duty for my class, everyday, for about 30 min. lastly, i have to watch 2 classes' (one of which is my own) bus riders for approx. 30 min. everyday after school. isn't teaching great??!! -meri

    p.s. i do teach at a charter school...just thought i should mention!!
     
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    All duties at my school are either paid or volunteer. On the rare occasion when something happens and we have to stay late, we are able to take that time later as comp time.

    Our union would never let them get away with two hours bus duty without paying a stipend.
     
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    i wish i got paid (at least comp. time) for my CRAZY after school bus duty! at least it's in my room so i can get some stuff done, though! have a great monday, everyone!! :) -meri
     
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    We have bus duty 2 weeks per school year and guess when my week is.....this week. Sub-zero temps and I have bus duty. Just my luck! It is quite short though, it is for after school and it lasts only about 10-1 5 minutes.
     
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    The only children who are bused are kids in self-contained special ed. classrooms or with out of district placements. There is no one in my school who is bused. Everyone comes out on the playground in the morning and at lunchtime to meet their classes. Lunch duty in my school is done by two teachers who have volunteered to do it daily for pay. They are not highly paid--about $12 a day, I think. In the other schools, if no one volunteers, it is assigned on a rotating basis. In those buildings, the teacher has to be in the building on call for any problems. If they are paid, they have to physically be in the lunch room or on the playground. We also have a teacher who is paid to come in a little early for "drop off and driv one." Kids in K-2 are dropped off at a side door, an aide (who is paid for this), watches them come in. They go to the classroom of the teacher to wait for the bell. This means fewer cars being parked and slightly less congestion. We are the only ones with this service, since we have the largest school.
     
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    We have bus duty one day a week at our school, we have to do both mornings and evenings of that day. We have to be there thirty minutes early and stay until the last bus, which usually takes about thirty minutes. I will NEVER complain about bus duty again.
     
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    We have duty once a week. When it is our duty day, we have to sign in by 7:00 A.M. We have morning duty (monitoring students until all the teachers get there which is at 7:25) we also do recess duty which is 15 minutes and we do bus duty which is about 15 min. Our school starts so early because we share buses with the junior high.
     
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    I have four yard duties a week - half of two recesses, half of two lunches. All teachers in my school do this (it's normal in Australia), including the principal. The teachers who cover the buses (5 days a week, they check of the bus rolls and walk the kids to the neighboring high school where the bus hub is) don't do yard duty. It's a pain on a very hot day like today (42 degrees C or 108F) but a great way to interact with kids from all classes informally.
     
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    We do 60 minutes of duty per week as part of our contract. This could be before or after school, at recess, or at lunch either while the students are eating in their classrooms or when they are outside. Our duty cannot be longer than 30 minutes at a stretch, most are 15 or 20 minutes.
     
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    All of our duties are paid. Teachers sign up for morning hall duty, lunch, and bus duties. We are also paid for after school clubs such as yearbook and art club along with coaching. The pay isn't great, but at least it's something, which it sounds like most of you don't get.
     
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    In my school, almost all duties are handled by non-homeroom teachers. ALMOST. Teachers are responsible for splitting up recess among each grade level in any way they see fit, as long as one teacher per grade is out there. There are also paid paras out there, too, but we have grades K&3, 1&2 and 4&5 out there togethere...so there are two teachers and four paras per session of recess. Some grade levels rotate duty monthly, some do it weekly, some do it daily (one teacher always covers Mondays, another always does Tuesdays, etc).

    I, however, am a homeroom teacher (pre-K) and I am on afternoon car rider duty...just because I am anal about being sure my little ones get to the right people at the end of the day, so when they asked for volunteers to do that duty, I volunteered. My bus riders go to the K teachers to wait for their bus and an aide counts them, does attendance for them and takes them to the bus as it pulls up.

    Kim
     
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    I think our duties are pretty reasonable. We only have duty 3 times during the year for a month at a time and they are between 15 and 30 minutes. The aids do the worst and longest duties- breakfast, crosswalk, etc. Personally I wish that the teachers that don't have homerooms (special ed and special areas) would have the morning duties so the rest of us can have a few minutes in the morning to get ourselves together. Fortunately we don't have buses! The kids that don't get picked up after school sit in the office.
     
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    after school and bus duty

    Just wondering - do teachers who work a paid position at your afterschool program (if your schools have one) have to do an equal amount of duty? At my school, those of us not working the after school program get slogged onto the afternoon duties, one of which is the endless 1-2 hour bus duty I mentioned in my original post.

    On top of our duty we also have lunchroom duty once a week for 30 minutes (which is 5 minutes longer than my actual daily lunch time!) :eek:
     
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    From what I can tell, it seems that your duties are out of balance. It sounds like you have it pretty rough. I think I would try to talk to other teachers and bring it up to the principal if possible. When we have students whose parents are habitually late, the principal has the parent sign them up for the after school program so that someone is supervising them. But since this is a bus issue, it seems that your school should pay teachers to supervise them in an after school program setting or something. 1-2 hours seems absolutely ridiculous to be working for free! What if you have to be somewhere after school?
     
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    I have to plan around the long bus duty! The earliest I can be somewhere on that day of the week is 5pm! If I plan on anything earlier it's a gamble! It's crazy! Thanks for all the opinions and info everyone - you are awesome! I just needed to get a feel for whether or not my duty was above and beyond the normal call of duty or whether it wasn't really too bad and I should just tough it out. Thanks! ;)
     
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    Morning duty...30 minutes for playground/before school program pick-up...rotational, and due to staff size is usually once a week (but once a month is 2x).

    After school...everyone does 15 minutes after school for pick-up, then additional 15 minutes for bus, after-school program, traffic duty...again rotational...

    But, usually you can do a 2 for 1 swap with another teacher...If you cover my mornings, I'll cover 2 afternoons and vice versa. We have one set of teachers who have "permanently swapped" mornings and afternoons with each other. Special teachers do morning duty or afternoon duties, but not both. Aides cover lunch period and earlier/later than this half hour each direction. Teachers are paid salary, and these additional duties are included as part of the "pay."

    The big problem at our school is not being paid for after-hour (later than 3:30pm) committees, meetings, task forces, and events which you are REQUIRED to be at.
     
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    We have NO bus duty. The kids fly out of the school and run all over the place to get to their bus. It is very scary. I usually walk a child to their parent's vehicle for one reason or another after school, and I often stay outside and tell kids to slow down, stop swearing, etc.
    I understand it is a pain in the butt, but kids need some supervision by the parking lot!
     
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    I'm assuming that you are in a union with a contract. Your primary job is to teach, not babysit. Your adm. is demeaning your role as a professional. your time afterschool is to be used to prepare. Thats what makes a good teacher. Unfortunately since so many , especially in el. ed. are nurturers , we lose sight because we are always ready to help. I sugeest your adm. look into why this is taking so long- that issue also impacts the students. and then get some parent volunteers to do this job, or pay some people.
     
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    We're lucky- we have no duties at all.
     
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    At our site, all teachers have an equal number of duties during a school year. We have duty for a week at a time & it typically averages about every other week. (Although if you're unlucky it could be for weeks on end...) Duty can be before school, at recess, or after school. However, duty is only 10 minutes in any of those cases. No union would allow it's teachers to be forced to hours of duty after school hours. If you have no union to back you up, I would check the fine print of your contract language. Does it indicate that you can be held accountable for watching kids for hours after school?
     
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    Good question. I'll have to check. Usually that stuff isn't spelled out in our official contracts, but later we receive a description of teacher duties which pretty much says we have to do whatever admin tells us to do - but as far as the hours - that might be the loophole.
     
  33. Mizz Lucy

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    I think there must be a better way. 1-2 hours is a waste of everyone involved.
     
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    I have two duties a week and am on a rotating roster twice a term as well (so that means that for two of the 10 weeks i'm rostered on for 3 duties). One of my duties is in the morning - 8.05am til 8.30am and the other is first half lunch.
     
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    What does your contract state? If school ends at 2:50, our contract states we can leave at 3:05. Of course, if it is our day for bus duty, we might have to stay a little longer, or some teachers who normally stay volunteer, but it has never been longer than 3:20-3:30. Is it a problem with your bus schedules or the bus company? Sounds like a union and/or administrative issue to me.
     
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    Ah, the age-old struggle between homeroom and non-homeroom teachers over duties. Our school used to have non-homeroom teachers handle most of the duties; homeroom teachers covered early morning detention a few times a year, and that was basically it. This year, things have shifted a bit. One teacher per team has early morning bus duty for a week at a time, and non-HR teachers are used to cover homerooms and for various other support purposes. Personally, I'd rather have all teachers have a homeroom and rotate all the duties, but that will never happen.
     
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    I don't think teachers should have duties like bus, cars, walkers or cafeteria.

     
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    Aahh...in a perfect world that would happen, but then reality steps in. It seems the little ones are unable to walk into school unescorted nowadays! And the big ones, too!
     
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    I mean, these jobs should be given to the paras and administration. I've worked in schools where this was so. The paras and administrators did the bus and cafe duties. Teachers did have duties but it was related to clubs or activities.

     
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    How many paras do you have in your school? We have only 3 plus 3 personal aides. You have no lunch duties either? Are there any openings in your school???? This is always an arguing point when we renew our contracts, as we at the elem. level get 12 (yes, 12!) duties per day - 5 a.m. bus duties or hall duties, 5 p.m. bus/hall duties, one lunch and one recess duty) and if we are out or leaving if we are sick, we are expected to find someone to cover our duty.
     
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    Don't know the exact number of paras, but we didn't (old school) do any bus or cafeteria duty at all. We only had to stand outside our door before school, during the changing of classes and after-school. Also, the duty that we did have was only a 2 night committment. It was either a game (softball, basketball, soccer) dance or play. I would always select softball, it was early in the year and didn't have to stay longer than an hour. The dances were cool too...nice music and free food. LOL:D

    Now that I am in GA, we have TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many duties and I hate it.:eek:

     

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