Budget worries?

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  1. Lives4Math

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    Anyone else concerned about having a job or not next year due to budget issues???? Publicly it was made known that my county (5 elem schools, 1 middle, 1 jr high, and 1 high) are looking at cutting 59 positions for next year. We've been told no one's job is safe. Tenure means nothing. Pretty much they'll be looking at how many years we've been here and our state test scores. Well....I've been here (in the county) 4 years (in the middle school this is my 1st year) and in the past my state scores were really good. This year.....god knows what they'll be but 9 week testing scores are crap. What can I do when the kids flat out say "I'm not doing that it's too much work....I just guess". They refuse to show work....heck, some refuse to even guess!! I have students completely capable of a minimum of B's for overall grades that are lucky to be pulling a 60....all because they won't turn in work (homework or classwork). So....it's my fault and I could loose my job over it. We're getting the lecture about being more sensitive to the kids because some are going through rough times already because of the economy......they are going to act out when things change this way.......so I should be more sensitive....BUT where's the sensitivity towards me when they look at the scores? It's not there....yes they know the kids will act out...yes they know they won't do their best work....but they better pass the test or it's MY @$$. I'd seriously go flip burgers after this school year if it wasn't for the fact that I have a house of my own that I have to pay for........maybe walmart would pay enough.........*sigh*
     
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  3. shouldbeasleep

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    No new hires in our county this coming year despite opening a new 700 count elementary school and a new middle school. Teachers are just getting shuffled around and class sizes have been increased to the levels they were about 10 years ago. (30 in 4th and 5th).

    Today the P. told me that even some of the first year teachers may not survive the budget cuts.

    However, years taught does mean something. A first year teacher, starting the second year of teaching, could be bumped out at the beginning of next year if a position at one of the schools is cut.

    Painful times.
     
  4. terptoteacher

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    I've been searching our district web site to see who has less senriority in the district. I think I'm safe, but I worry about my co workers!
     
  5. peggy27

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    I have about 12 years at my school so I am not too worried. We have hired about 8 new teachers in the past couple of years. I worry that the children will be put in LARGE classes next year and how will we ever reach them all!
     
  6. scooter503

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    I have some worries. I am a first year teacher, but 4 SAGE teachers were hired a month after me, so technically I have "some" seniority. I just worry because it took me so long to finally find a job. Also, there are rumblings about my school closing (these have been around for years, but I did have a school board member share a "magic number" for enrollment with me, and it is entirely possible that we'll fall below that next year). So, I am hoping to put in for a job at a different school that will open due to a retirement. Then I'll have one less thing to worry about.

    In other news....a manufacturing plant in my small town just announced they'll be closing in March. 178 will be laid off. Not good news for the area.
     
  7. Peachyness

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    There are talks of increasing class size from 20-30. Soooooo... at this very moment, about 90 are going to be pink slip. There is also Riffing that may happen. :(
     
  8. myKroom

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    Word is that we will be cutting 5-6 positions in our small K-12 school. Combination of budget and declining enrollment. I should be safe. I've been there 3 years and I have 5 new teachers under me (in elementary alone). We are supposed to hear more on Monday! :unsure: Anything goes...we have no clue who they are going to go after!

    Good luck to everyone facing this issue!!!! We will get through it!
     
  9. MsMaggs

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    We just got an e-mail from our P stating that our board is planning on doing everything possible to keep single graded classrooms for next year, which means all teachers would stay on staff, unless our enrollment drops below 145. We had around 170 at the beginning of this year, but I know we've lost quite a few students since then. I feel fairly safe, since I'm not the last teacher hired, but there is just one teacher newer than me. I'm hoping all of our positions will be safe!
     
  10. Miss Kirby

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    Oh brother.

    I heard class size limits are going way up. They are cutting reading specialist positions to half time. Teachers who have interim contracts won't be back the next year. Surplus teachers, extra teachers at each school, will be placed at a different school and/or grade level. I don't really understand how all these teachers will be placed, but we'll see.
     
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    Traditionally, no one in our district finds out if they will be rehired until the end of the school year or later, but the rumors are circulating. Class size has been frozen at the school level instead of classroom level and 2 elementary schools will be closing. We have been told that attrition will not cover all the jobs being lost. They will go after assistants, and Art, and Music first before they drop classroom teachers. I think my assistant is safe because I am required by law to have her in my classroom. I have made suggestions to the powers that be to use the teacher merit pay and our A+ money to keep employees in their positions, but that was met with deaf ears by the P.
     
  12. Mr. H

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    If you think that is bad...

    Try subbing, In many districts, the budget for subs has been SLASHED to nothing. :eek::dizzy:
     
  13. mrachelle87

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    :dunno:We met with our Superintendent on Monday. He said the RIF word (reduction in force). He is loosing 8 % of his budget and 86% is staff salaries. We all went UGH! I admit I started looking around the room and counting how many in my building have been hired since me, and how many in other buildings that I am qualified to do their jobs have been hired since me. I think I am safe...on my third year in district and certified in 4 areas. If I am not, I am killing my husband for talking me into moving to this district. And if I get moved to Middle School, he is dead and I will bury the body in the sheep barn!
    Supt did say that the last time we RIFed people (8 years ago) that by summer we were able to hire all but one back. They would have hired her back, but she took another job. He told us not to lose sleep, that was his job. He said that we would probably just absorb any new positions and adjust, but that he didn't want to RIF if he didn't have to. We are a small school. We pinch pennies already, but we are turning off heaters, watching lights, and turning electrical objects off to help save money. Everyone is aware of it and is a little scared.
     
  14. forkids

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    Our county has had a 2% budget cut this year and has already been told there will be at least another 3% cut next school year. So far, everyone except certified personnel under contract has been cut 5 days across the board - including administration -so they don't work on in-service days unless they do it for free. Subs are no longer being used except where required by law(Pre-K & Special Needs). We don't know what next year will bring.
     
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    My mom & I both work for the same large district. My mom has worked there longer than I have. She just found out that EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE will be made to take 3 wks off in July for the 2009-10 school year to help w/ the budget. This news will be made public in April, but my mom knows this now because she has friends in high places w/i the district.

    Honestly though, we're not afraid that we'll lose out jobs.
     
  16. forkids

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    In July? Does your district have year round school, or will they just take 3 weeks of salary even though you are on summer vacation?
     
  17. Ms. I

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    I'm sorry, I forgot to emphasize that they're being made to take 3 wks off UNPAID, IF they have to end up doing it at all. The whole district is on a certain track called orange track that's similar to the traditional system. So if this is actually done, everyone will get 1 month less of pay.
     
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    I just found out that they need to get rid of a second grade and a third grade teacher and they need a teacher in first grade and kindergarten.

    Soooo... I teach second grade now, and I have two years experience in first, so I am almost positive that they will ask me to teach first next year. My heart is completely in second grade, so I'm really sad. But these days I guess it just isn't about where your heart is, it's about having a job. At least I wouldn't have to go to a grade level that I have never taught, or switch classrooms, or switch schools. But..... sigh. :unsure:
     
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    I'm sorry to all of you who have to worry about keeping your job or being fired. It must be so hard and my heart goes out to each and every one of you. It really gets me that in our country, politicians will say they care about education, yet the budgets in each state are being cut. Teachers should not have to worry about being told not to come back due to the budget. It's not right!

    Our children's education is the most important thing in this world, and the budget should never be cut. They should be putting more money into education because kids are our future and will fix our mistakes. More teachers means smaller class sizes and kids have a better chance of learning. What don't these people understand about that? Larger class sizes will make things worse!

    I know you all already know this, and I'm sorry for ranting, but it pains me so much to see so many of you worrying about losing your jobs. You are doing a great thing teaching, and you should be rewarded for it! I hope to see education getting the funding it deserves in the future. Junk like NCLB should be put to the side, and teachers should be given the resources and funding that they need. Period. Thanks for reading my rant for the day, and thank you so much for what you all do for children!
     
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    Nothing has been said in my district about any type of budget cuts or teacher cuts. The one thing that I am very happy is that my union settled our contract at the beginning of Sept. We voted on a four year contract instead of a three year one. Boy, am I glad we did. I would hate to be in negotiations at this time for a new contract.
     
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    Do you mean the district is not hiring subs and using teachers to cover classes (if that is the case do your teachers get paid extra) or that the pay rate has been cut? If it has been cut, what is the current rate of pay per day? In my school a teacher would be unable to cover another class because they would have to give up their prep or lunch and that is illegal in our contract.
     
  22. TamiJ

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    I completely agree with your post. It is disgusting that education is not a priority. I am in CA, and someone just told me that we now rank 50th in this country (in regard to education), and there is more budget cuts on the rise. How can we provide a quality education when our resources are being diminished? I am searching for a job and likely won't find one. My temporary contract wasn't renewed due to low-enrollment, but I know that the possibility of landing something is pretty much nonexistent in this economy. Teachers are being pink slipped, not hired, and kids are being shoved into classrooms. That is not a learning environment.
     
  23. Bumble

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    If we cover classes during a prep or lunch, then we get paid out by the end of the year.

    I'm not worried about my job. There are A LOT of positions in the city. We are actually understaffed.
     
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    I heard the county north of us, in November ran out of money for subs. So they were combining classes for that day. Imagine that. One person is out. Two classes are ruined. Very said time in that county.
     
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    In our school system, when a teacher is absent, the class is covered by a parapro being pulled from a class. If no parapros are available, then the class is covered by a specials teacher(the specials class is canceled for the day), office staff, or any way they can cover it. NO subs are hired except for Pre-K and special needs because there just isn't any money to pay them. This hurts the K classes whose paras are constantly being pulled to sub.
     
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    Heard today
    Georgia is now under a "hiring freeze" for new teachers.

    "Many" new teachers in our district are being let go at the end of this year.

    Class sizes for regular 4th and 5th are jumping to 30.

    All elementary Media Specialists have been let go from county west of us.
     
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    In LAUSD we were going to lay off 3000 new teachers mid year. Instead we will keep everyone until July then lay off 5000 employees. I am worried because it is my second year at the District as an aide but they are still recruiting for special ed and science teachers. I am certifiied in both of these areas and I am looking for a job. The other aides tell me I should stay put or that I will most certainly be laid off.
     
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    AZ is looking to cut 900 million from education for the next school year.
     
  29. smalltowngal

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    $900 million out of what?!? That seems like ALOT!!
     
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    But look at the budget cuts coming from Albany... that's money you had this year that you won't have next year.

    They don't have to say anything about budget cuts. They're coming, regardless of whether they're talked about or not.
     
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    my thoughts on the budget cuts

    :down::banghead::naughty::banghead::down:
     
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    I found out on Tuesday that there is going to be a pay freeze for all teachers at my school next year. That is better than losing a job. Then last night my husband came home and said that the company he works for says all hourly employees can get no more than 32 hours for a while. Feeling a bit stressed.
     
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    I wish we could do that at LAUSD but I do not think that anyone would go for it. I am really angry at the California Legislature's failure to come up with a budget. The state will run out of money February 1.
     

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