This is for the students coming into fourth grade. They have terrible math skills. I've never really had to teach a program for times tables, we just did timed math tests. But this time I think I have to do the mad minute kind of learning. Is there a fool proof system out there?

Do you mean a program to help thèm memorize their facts? Have you looked into xtramath.org? It is free and only takes a couple of minutes each day. The students can use it at home, too. I saw great results with it last year.

My daughter did a LOT Of their worksheets last year during our hurricane break. She actually enjoyed them, and they kept her skills fresh for that week and a half.

What about old school, sit down write the facts, say them in your head and just straight up memorize them?

If heavens54 is anything like me, her boss doesn't like "paper/pencil/worksheets," but loves computer stuff. I adore Xtramath.org!

And if her kids are anything like my children, they get bored after endless memorization. But my daughter did 27 review sheets in those 8 school days we missed. She got a real kick out of "playing school."

My kids also enjoyed the Multiplication Rap cd when I taught math. We also made flashcards and played a lot of flashcard games.

Many of our students are growing up in a very different fashion than we did, thus they are use to learning/ focusing when using a computer. They don't always all necessarily learn the same way either. Xtramath.org takes a couple of minutes each day, and they love it. They can immediately see their progress each day. They can practice at home as well if they have a computer and Internet access. My principal is not a fan of drill and kill either. Plus, I would rather my students have an understanding of the concept and strategies for solving multiplication facts as opposed to just memorizing the fact. I memorized my facts because my father threatened to spank me if I didn't do so by a certain date. (Now I realize he would have never done it, but he knew the threat was all I needed to motivate me!) In college I learned what exactly is happening when you multiply. Suddenly, it all made sense, and I realized I really wouldn't have had to memorize them as a child if I had understood what multiplication really was all about.

Lol! I was thinking I must be blind as a bat to have not noticed the worksheets! The site you were referring to is a nice resource.

Mine also LOVE Schoolhouse rock! Alice - I love superteacher as well - math-aids.com is also fantastic!

I am sorry, I misunderstood the thread. For some reason I thought it was about memorizing math facts, not learning multiplication. Xtramath appears to be just random memorization, like flashcards, am I missing something? If we are talking learning about multiplication I would say CGI, Twomey Fosnot strings, Van De walle activities. I personally prefer students to memorize multiplication facts and use more sophisticated problems or strings to build understanding, but I understand this is a personal preference.

I'm a HUGE proponent of knowing your times tables cold.. . somewhere around here I wrote a HUGE post last week about how vital that knowledge is. But... once they're memorized, constant reinforcement is necessary. As with so many other things, it tends to be "use it or lose it" for a lot of kids. So, once they're memorized, it's a great idea to keep reinforcing that knowledge. And if you can find a site (or game or song or anything) that kids will willingly return to, you've won the battle.

I completely agree and my school is the same way. While it's great for kids to memorize the facts and they do need to eventually, when they first learn to multiply, which is what they're doing in 3rd grade when I teach multiplication I think it's more important they understand the concept. Then I can give them strategies to multiply so that as they start to memorize their facts that have an actual strategy to figure out the answer when they can't remember what 7 x 6 is. The goal is eventually they know 7 x 6 from memorization but they have to do so much more than just know their facts (tricky word problems) that I can't wait around for them to memorize their facts (and most are not going to do it at home) they have to know what to do when they don't know the fact.

ST Math is amazing for this, the ST stands for "spacial temporal math." Helped so many of my students learn multiplication and division. It's an online program but only available for schools to purchase. My school got it through a grant and it's amazing!

We use a paper pencil system called rocket math. I love that it goes into division too. We supplement with fractions and decimals for our higher students when gpthey get there.