Average class sizes??

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  1. karebear76

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    Today was my son's first day of K, and this evening was Open House. I teach at the same school (in fact drive him 40 miles to have him with me), so I'm comfortable with the teacher. I found out tonight that there are 23 students in his class! There are 3 other classes with similar numbers. (Total enrollment: 91). In the past there have been 5 classes, one retired & wasn't replaced. Super won't hire 5th teacher until enrollment reaches 100. So basically, it's not going to change...

    I just want to know what is the average class size for K, roughly. I thought the push was for smaller classes early on, to develop strong skills, etc.

    Just curious about how things work in other places.
     
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    We usually have around 20 in a class (no aides). This year I am starting off with 18.
     
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    We have 2 classes with 18 each and a shared aid. Last year we had 3 classes of between 12-14.
     
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    We have 18 or 19 each. The school had 3 K teachers, but class sizes were up to 24, so they hired me on as the 4th K teacher so the classes could be 18. We have an associate who comes in to help during our reading time as well.
     
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    I started the week off with 16 (loved it :) ) and today I am up to 19 kinders. I suspect that by the end of the month I'll have 21 or 22. Last year my class got up to 23 at one point. Now the two billingual classes in kinder this year are both up to 27 kids!:eek:hmy: That's way too many. I'm not sure how large a kinder class can get in Texas before they have to hire a new teacher. I would love to know if someone could tell me.
     
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    I have 30 this year. It's due to budget issues and we will hopefully get another teacher after our final count on Sept. 18. I'm very annoyed that the district is making us wait that long! I've always had between 18-22 students. I've never had an aide. I will get one this year for 2 hours a day. Woo-hoo! I think anything over 22 is too many. I have a pretty good group this year and so far, so good. But there is no way that I can give this many kids the attention they need. 16 would be my ideal class size.
     
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    I have 23. I agree it is too big!
     
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    I have 25, its managable but it would be nice if it were smaller
     
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    Last year we had five teachers will full time aides. Our class sizes were two with 17, one with 16, and two with 18. This year so far we have six classes with full time aides (we had to hire another teacher) and our classes are three with 18, two with 17, and one with 15 (developmental K won't get any bigger). I am at 17 but I have a feeling I have had one or two more added to my class. They are trying to keep our classes under 20.
     
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    I am at 21 right now. They try to cap them at 20, but obviously they're not going to add another teacher because I'm one over! I wish they would!!!
     
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    School hasn't started here yet. Rumor has it that no elementary school class will contain fewer than 16 kids, which means that the cap could theoretically be 31. We're really hoping that a few families have registered over the summer, since that would mean that both the neighbor's K class and my daughter's 1st grade class would be in the upper 20's.

    This is NOT a typical year-- the budget crisis has hit in so many ways, large and small.
     
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    The local districts have figured out paying the fine for going over 20 is less than paying the extra teachers so in these budget times many have gone to 23/24. I heard of one district doing 30 - ugh!
     
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    I do not know for sure how many will be my daughter's class this year. The principal said back in April that it will probably be around 20.

    My son attended kindergarten at a different school and school district a few years ago and had 23 kids in his class. It was also a tiny classroom that felt very cramped with all the kids and all the furniture. I thought that was too many kids for the teacher and that room.
     
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    School does not start for another two weeks here and I have 22 in both AM and PM and my grade partner has 19... no aides at all.
     
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    Our cap is 20 this year (it was 18 but a grant got cut and we went up)...school starts tomorrow and I am at 17 right now, I'm sure we will get a few more in the coming weeks.
     
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    Seems like it's about in the middle then. You all have my sympathy...as a special ed teacher with 17-22 in the past, I don't know how you cope when you have kids that may have never seen books or letters, or numbers. I really think that K should not have more than 18.

    I'm really sorry for those with 30 :eek: I just couldn't imagine.

    Thanks for all the responses.
     
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    I teach at a Christian school in MT. Our student:teacher ratio caps at 16. I have 10 so far this year. I am so grateful for our cap, it makes it so much easier to work on a more one on one basis with each child. I just do not know how you guys do it! I would be totally crazy by October if I had 25 + kids. 16 would be okay, I guess, but I feel like even that is a large number at such an important educational step. I will be praying for you all, and I will pray that each of your districts has the ability to hire more teachers. God Bless you!
     
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    We have 3 teachers, each with 21 kids (no aides). TOO MANY!
     
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    I've never had less than 22, never had an aide - I know I'll be in the minority here but I don't think it's that bad. I probably wouldn't know what to do with myself with a smaller class. With the economy the way it is a lot of schools are being forced to downsize everything but class sizes.

    In most parts of Europe they have a strict ratio of 15:1 with at least one aide, sometimes 2. :eek:
     
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    I had 24 last year. This year I was suppose to have 23 and today was our second day and I still have 4 that didn't show! So pumped...19 is awesome! I feel like I'm in heaven! I have so much extra room!:)
     
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    I knew I shouldn't have read this thread. I'm so jealous of so many of you!

    I have 26 this year. Our cap is 25. Go figure. Last year I had 27. We are a full-day program and I have an instructional assistant for 2 hours each day.
     
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    My school has 6 kindergartens and 5 rooms have 20 right now, I have 16 because I am in a spare room that is tiny and they have me capped at 17 - luckily my DC knows how much easier it is to seat 16 in my room ;) The cap for the district is 21, once they get to 22 they have to start looking at hiring another teacher. However, we are an open-enrollment school and they would probably send some kids back to their home schools/districts before they did that.
     
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    Class Size

    I have 15 in my morning class and 13 in my afternoon class. This is a "big" class for us!
     
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    this year I have 20 and I am so happy. Last year I went between 25-26...that was a nightmare. No aide. Title 1 school.
     
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    I don't know how you do it! I had 16 today and 3 were absent- I don't know how I will deal with 19 if they all show up tomorrow!! We are packed like sardines in my room!!
     
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    Oh my goodness! I kept reading this post trying to see if anyone had class sizes near what I have...now I feel really bad! I currently have 26 and school starts in a week (so I will get several more). I have had around 30 (32, 29, 30) for the past 3 years! I do have an aide, but still, it is a lot of 5 year olds to manage!:eek:
     
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    So my corporation moved to full day for all its schools this year (before it was only the Title 1 schools) and my friend is an aide. The 3 kindergarten classes have 30 each...she said it's ridic, chaotic and stressful. The deadline to make a new class is next week and she's a certified teacher so she's hoping they make another room and maybe she'll be asked to teach it. 30 just seems like way too much, in fact that's why I was hired as an IA last year b/c they thought 30 in 4th grade was tooo much!!
     
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    We have 4 K's. We are at 15 each. School starts for K on Wednesday. I am sure by the end of Sept. we will all be over 20with no aide. We are supposed to cap at 20. They said this year they are not honoring the cap=(
     
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    It looks like my daughter's class will have 19 students. Her school has 3 kindergarten classes and I'm guessing they each have about 19 or 20 students.
     
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    We are capped at 20. Like I posted earlier I had 24 last year. They don't honor the cap but you get paid extra! I made about $5,500 extra last year because of this! The money was great and we really needed it (I took off the previous year without pay to stay home with my newborn) but often not worth it!!! I might miss the extra money, but I feel like I have extra time preparing things, assessing, filing, etc. with only 19!
     
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    I have 23 this year in an inclusion class. Four of my students are classified. I am hoping that we don't get any more!!!
     

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