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  1. Ms. I

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    http://www.wired.com/2015/08/happened-hackers-posted-stolen-ashley-madison-data/

    Anyone know about this website specifically for married people who want to cheat on their spouses? They've been around for a while. Well, some hackers leaked all the site's clients' info.

    The article says seven years' worth of credit card & other payment transaction details have been leaked, going back to 2007. The data, which amounts to millions of payment transactions, includes names, street address, email address and amount paid.

    I say FABULOUS, let them ALL be exposed! That's what all those adulterers deserve! Like they always say, what you do in the dark eventually comes to the light....even if it's by other unscrupulous individuals (the hackers)!
     
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    I don't think it's fabulous at all...what consenting adults do in their private lives is their own business. What's concerning, however, is another leak of identities, financial info....
     
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    I agree with czacza. I don't think cheating is good but I won't judge people I don't know. And the fact their credit card and other personal info was leaked is really disturbing.
     
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    They should've just released the names and emails, not the credit card info.
     
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    The leaked info is not, apparently, easily accessible; it's encrypted (my local morning show is doing a bit on it right now). While I don't agree with the premise of the site, it always concerns me when personal info is leaked. Unfortunately, in this case, not only the "guilty" parties will be impacted by the leak.
     
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    I am absolutely not okay with credit card information being leaked. I've had to get new credit cards so many times. It's so frustrating. The names? I still think that's crummy, but it's hard to have sympathy for people looking to cheat. But I will always side with security and privacy, so I think it's pretty terrible that this has happened.
     
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    Why release anything?
     
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    I can't help but think KARMA!!! However, our society has a huge problem with privacy and security and that needs to change. No one seems to have privacy anymore and it seems anyone can access your information at the touch of a finger.

    I also feel like anything you do online can be and will be traced back to you, even if it's supposedly "private." Everything you do online is at your own risk. The release of credit card information is scary though. Nothing else about this surprises or shocks me.
     
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    The only way to stay safe I guess is to put as little information out there as possible.
     
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    I feel for the poor spouses and families. Having your personal life made public is painful. Karma is not a good thing when innocent people are hurt.
     
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    :thumb:
     
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    It's a sad commentary about today's society when 32 million members of a cheating website are exposed.
    Doesn't leave much hope for young people today staying faithful.
     
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    Many of those accounts are fake to attract and retain paying customers. But yes, it's very sad (and scary) in this day and age that this has become "accepted" and the "norm."
     
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    My first online dating experience was with a guy who told me that he usually dated through Ashley Madison . . . and I had no idea what that was until I was looked it up later.

    He was a married youth-minister/missionary.

    Yeah . . . that one date was it.

    I know that some couples don't seem to mind what the spouse does, but most do. I'm single, so I don't have that issue on my end . . . but I've run into several married guys in my dating adventures. One person was mad at ME because I went on a date with a married guy. Well, geez . . . I didn't know he was married, but HE certainly should have known he was!
     
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    Yep, the sanctity of marriage has certainly flown out the window. :mad: Sad that no one knows who they can trust. The spouses who think it will never happen to them in a million years (meaning being cheated on) may not happen to them now, but maybe 5, 10, 15, 20+ yrs from now. Sadly, it's at the point in which if it happens, you shouldn't gete surprised & do your best to move on from it as best you can (whether you divorce or give them another chance, etc.).

    I know we certainly don't need any technology for people to cheat because if it's in them to do it, they'll do it anyway, but all this technology/websites definitely make it a whole lot easier. (And sure, I know, there's couples who are swingers, etc. out there, so if that's how they want to live, so be it.)

    Speaking of this, on the show Shark Tank, this guy actually brought in front of the "sharks" this app that makes it easier for a cheater to cheat. Again, sad & yes there's always people who are going to buy it.

    Here's the segment on Shark Tank about it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75OH5lsQCG8

    HORRENDOUS!
     
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    I don't cheat, my husband doesn't cheat, and those are the only two things that I have control over. Exposing people for their "sins" sets a dangerous precedent. I am sure that if this thread was about leaking the same amount of information about all teachers, or teachers who frequent this forum, we would be aghast. :eek: :woot:

    I was once married to someone who cheated on me. It was humiliating when that was shared with my social circle. Invasion of privacy is wrong, whether you agree with the founding concept of that organization or not.

    The fact that the exposure is coming as the result of a criminal act in and of itself makes it even worse.

    It isn't what technology is out there or who offers a way to do whatever - like minded people seek each other out. I don't want anyone telling me that I can or can't use some aspect of available tech because 99% of a population finds it offensive behavior. If it isn't illegal, then it truly is not up to me try and stop them. However, if it is illegal, it is up to me to find a way to bring them to justice. There's a big difference between offensive and illegal. I am not on the planet to pass judgement on what others do, only to lead by the best example that I can provide.

    Not a popular view, I am certain, but the cyber-crime should be the issue here, not membership to the organization, don't you think?
     
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    That's a pretty sweeping generalization.

    I know who I can trust. So does he. That won't change 5, 10, 15, or 20+ years from now.
     
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    :thumb:

    I can't live my life worrying about what might happen. And if something questionable happened in my relationship, I wouldn't want to find out through social media.
     
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    So, I take it by your statement that you are expecting your bf to cheat on you at some point. And when (I say "when" not "if" because it seems to me you think it's a "when" not an "if") it happens, you won't be surprised and you'll move on in whatever way you decide is best?

    Is there cheating? Yup! Of course there is, we all know that. I do not agree at all however with your stance that we are all just waiting for it to happen, and if it hasn't happened yet, well, it's just a matter of time. I am very much in love with my husband who I will celebrate 20 years of marriage with next year. He has never cheated on me and I know he won't cheat on me in another "5, 10, 15, 20+years from now." How do I know this? Because I know the man I married!

    And as far as the information being leaked, I think it's terrible that it happened. It's frightening to me when hackers can get into sites and steal information.
     
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    I love my partner and have no desire to cheat on him "...5, 10, 15, 20+ years from now." I'm certain he feels the same way.

    Regarding the second part of your statement: "Sadly, it's at the point in which if it happens, you shouldn't get surprised and do your best to move on from it as best you can..." truly sounds like misguided frame of mind.
     
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    I trust my husband and he trusts me. We read each other's computers because we're both looking at silly news articles and pictures of guinea pigs, not because we're checking on each other's fidelity. There was once I time I offered him an open-ended relationship, but he said he was too tired of playing the field and simply wanted to stay with me.

    That being said, it looks like the first celebrity client of the site has been revealed. http://gawker.com/family-values-act...m_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
     
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    I think open relationships are great. But they're built off a mutual respect and understanding. Cheating is definitely not the same thing as having a monogamish relationship.

    (not saying you said that cat)
     
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    What I find horrendous are the sweeping generalizations made in this post about marriage and trust.

    Are you planning on marrying a cheater?
     
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    I trust my husband and feel sorry for people who are always anticipating the worst and are suspicious of so many things.
     
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    A group of my friends are centered around two marriages and a couple of singletons brought in. I politely declined when offered a place in this arrangement (before Rockhubby and I got engaged). You're right, Lucybelle. It's a great relationship when everyone is open and honest.

    The difference between polyamory and Ashley Madison patrons is that everyone is aware and loving toward one another, and they were very gracious when I asked to be just friends with all of them. If one of them was NOT IN on the arrangement, THAT would be cheating on that person.
     
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    Of course I'm not HOPING or WANTING my BF to cheat, but it happens so often these days that I'm afraid it's a bit tough to say that I'm 100% positive that he'll never do it ever for the rest of our lives. During the course of my relationship, if I notice something from time to time that puzzles me, I ask him to see if it seems logical to me. I don't beat around the bush...not saying others here do.

    We've all seen or known of plenty of people who thought it would never happen to them...but it did. Anyone who's seen some past posts of mine on this topic knows how I feel about it. I was just raised to not let anything surprise you & just always be financially prepared to take care of yourself if something ever happens. I'm definitely not one to give a cheater another chance.

    I'm sure there's still some geniunely good, honest, moral, ethical people out there. We just ALL hope they're OUR spouses/SOs, etc.

    A so-called family values advocate huh. Yeah, right.
     
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    The interesting thing is that, between the actual news and my mentioning of this thread, Rockhubby and I had a fantastic conversation this evening assessing our marriage. He pointed out that because he refuses to go on Facebook, his chances of cheating are statistically down 60% (he's all about the numbers). If anything, his ex-girlfriends have gone on that site and have wound up befriending ME, which is a little weird.
     
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    I'd like to think I would never cheat, nor would my significant other cheat. I know neither of us would ever plan to, or do it hurtfully... but unfortunately, I suspect that most people who end up cheating on their spouses never actually planned to.

    Putting that aside though...

    1) This is why less is more when it comes to disclosing personal details on the internet.
    2) If there was any site where people deserved to have private info leaked, it's Ashley Madison, but that doesn't make it okay.
    3) Good for Josh Duggar for trying to get a willing, non-related adult woman this time.
     
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    Pictures of guinea pigs ....... non-related adult woman ...... cracking up here.

    Leaking and cheating are both sad all the way around. None of my young adult children's friends seem to think marriage is necessary and it need not come before children. I don't know what they value ...... though they do seem to love their children, I must say. Nothing else seems to be sacred.
     
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    Also, I almost didn't click on this thread because I thought it was about a home decorating company. Hahahahaha.
     
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    Marriage is just a civil matter. Only thing it is useful for is a tax break. Studies have shown that one of the things marriage does is just make it more likely for a couple to break up, so why both if you are in a happy relationship together? Anyway, in most states, if you live together long enough, you're common law husband and wife.
     
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    And they say us gays are ruining the sanctity of marriage :lol:
     
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    Marriage may be just a civil matter to you. It is not to my wife and I, and I doubt it is to many other couples who get married. I view it as an important vow that I've made to my wife and to God. It is very sacred to both of us. I don't get people complaining about the "sanctity of marriage". Whether Josh Duggar keeps his vows or not, or whether two men or two women who love each other choose to marry, or whether some church decides to marry squirrels off with rats, it does nothing to diminish the vow that I've made with my wife. I wish people would stop with the sanctity of marriage BS.
     
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    monsieurteacher, I totally agree.
     
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    How sad that this is your mindset. have you ever been in or experienced in your life a model of a long term, committed and loving relationship?
     
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    But, monsieur, your vow to your wife, and hers to you, professed in the sacrament before God is the sanctity of marriage. And I think the intention of entering marriage with your complete self is a totally different thing than living together.
     
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    I've seen several. Some of the couples were married, and some were not. I don't feel any more or less committed to my husband than before we were married. We already owned our home together and shared responsibility for our pets. We were already the beneficiary of each others' life insurance plans. It is easier to file taxes, get loans, handle insurance and other things now that we are legally married, but there was no religious aspect to our wedding ceremony or the license we signed with the state.
     
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    I don't disagree with that. What I disagree with is that there ever was any form of sanctity in the institution of marriage itself, but that sanctity is within each individual marriage. In other words, people talking in general terms about the sanctity of marriage disappearing these days is silliness (to put it nicely).
     
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