Are you on an "on time" teacher?

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    Do you believe in having your students on time to things like specials, recess etc etc? I have a teaching partner who is ALWAYS 5 minutes late. She doesn't let the time guide her like I do. I'm wondering if I need to relax and just go with the flow more or if being on time is more important?
     
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    Being on time is important.

    Imagine if you were the specials teacher who lost out on class time every single day because of someone else's tardiness. You'd probably feel pretty frustrated and disrespected by your colleagues. That's how I would feel anyway.
     
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    I am an on time kind of person in general. In fact I'm usually early to most things in life. Not dramatically early but 5 to 10 minutes early to everything. (Not at school) I do have coworkers and friends who are always late to everything. It does drive me crazy but I am learning to be more understanding. In fact my husband is an always late person. If we have to be somewhere at a certain time he will be walking at the door at that time. He is always the last one to anything. I am more understanding of coworkers than I am him. At least coworkers are doing something productive. He is just late!
     
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    I try to be, but to me, it's not as vitally important as others see it. If they run a bit late in their special, I'll be flexible on my end, and generally those I work(ed) with are the same way. While I always plan on being done perfectly in time - it doesn't always happen that way. If the behavior isn't quite there, I'm not going to brush it off, we're going to wait and practice. If we're wrapping up a discussion on the independent practice we did (for example), I'm not going to cut that off just to be somewhere one or two minutes earlier. Schedules and timing are important, especially for specialists, but it's not the end-all for me.
     
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    Addendum

    :dizzy: Especially if you have a class...it is that teacher's responsibility to be on time. What if you weren't there?:spitwater:
     
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    What EVER
     
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    Eh, I'm pretty lax. I give myself a 5-10 minute time frame to get my students to specials. Not because I'm awful at being on time but because that's how the special teachers want it.

    Last year I used to ask, "You'll want them promptly at 11:05, right?" and the teacher said, "Maybe wait until 11:10, the latest 11:15". This particular teacher had her reasons.

    I'd say just follow the flow. If it really is that important to you, speak to you partner about it. Explain how important timeliness is to you.

    Really though, to me five minutes is not a big deal. I myself do not follow a strict schedule. I have an outline of course but mostly I just watch the time.
     
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    You keep using that picture, I do not think that is who you REALLY are. I have to laugh at people on here playing school teacher thinking they are here to police and correct others while hiding behind Harry Potter avatars. Just sayin.:lol:
     
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    I'd be ****** as a specials teachers if regular classroom teachers decided they would screw me out of instructional time because they determined their work was more important.
     
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    I think that it's important for my students to be on time coming and going from other classes. A minute or two is no big deal, but longer than that isn't respectful of the other teacher's time.
     
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    What?! Caesar isn't REALLY Severus Snape? What a catfish! :eek:hmy:

    What do icons have to do with anything? Some users use pictures of apples or Snoopy, others use TV characters.
     
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    My secret's out! :eek:
     
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    Reported.
     
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    We don't have specials here. However, I'd set alarms on my phone that'd alert me when it was time for students to go to speech, counseling, ELD, RtI, or anything else. If it wasn't for the alarm function on my phone, I'd probably be late to everything.
     
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    I always dropped my kids off right on time, and I didn't stand there with them either. That is my plan time, and I'm not going to waste it because a specials teacher is finishing an email. :sorry:
     
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    And being on time, you certainly shouldn't stand there.
     
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    I am on time because it is my students' instructional time with someone else, and it is my planning time. Not everyone in my building however sticks to the schedule.
     
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    We don't have teachers walking kids to class in high school, but we do have teachers are constantly standing in the hall gossiping/discussing sports 10-15 minutes into the period while their kids sit in the classroom chatting away. We also have teachers who release students five minutes early to lunch to "get on the kids' good side" and be "the cool teacher."

    It's shameful.
     
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    I agree with Missy-that's MY time, too! ;)

    I'm usually right on time. I send my kids out to PE (it's everyday, outside, right outside my window/classroom) on time, but there is a group of girls that takes 5 minutes to change their shoes. It drives me NUTS! Our PE is 25 minutes after the first bell rings. They should come to school in their PE shoes! I try to shoo them out, and I always feel bad that they straggle in to the PE class.
     
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    We had one specials teacher that always had "something" to do just before classes would arrive. The other teachers would stand there and babysit for 10-15 minutes while the teacher got her poop in a group. Ain't nobody got time for that! Part of it was my kids were 6th graders, and I could give them the look and threaten them with, well, anything, and they would be good.

    I am not into tattling, but I may or may not have deliberately lured my P to that teacher's room while my kids were standing there impatiently...for 3 days in a row...:whistle: She did get her act together eventually.
     
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    Yes. When the bell rings and it's time for the kids to go somewhere else, it's time for them to go.
     
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    My students are dropped off and picked up on time, which surprised the specials teachers at first. I guess that's not the norm. The few times I knew I was going to be late, I sent them a quick email.

    I just think it's courtesy to show up on time when people are expecting you. Kids need to learn that too.
     
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    I think it's important to be as on time as possible. If I am ever late taking my students to p.e., for example, I will tell the teacher the reason. And it's usually a good reason: Someone got sick on the way, or two students got into a fight. I don't want the p.e. teacher to think that I do not value their class as "just p.e.", so it doesn't matter if we're late. I'm certainly not saying that's your mindset! But I think being habitually late does convey disrespect toward that teacher and his/her subject.

    I remember a teacher who used to get really upset if I brought my class a couple minutes early. She would let me know that she was not going to invite the students into her classroom until it was time. That was fine with me. I'd rather be early that running late. We'd just play the quiet game while we waited. I think she make a silly fuss about it, but I just tried to ignore. She would get really mad if we were a couple minutes late, so I had to pick my battles with that situation. It's hard to arrive right as the second hand hits the twelve on the clock!
     
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    Side note: I'm SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO glad I don't have to walk my students to bathroom breaks or specials anymore. It's time and they just....go. BYEEEEE.

    #elementaryproblems
     
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    I can't stand when people want to gossip in the hall with me as I'm about to close my door and begin class! I've got so I just cut them off and say, "I'm sorry, but I need to start class." I've hurt a few feelings this way. We have people at my school who would truly talk about 15 minutes while the class goes wild....
     
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    Art is 35 minutes with no time in between. The teachers that are 5+ minutes late each week are at least a project behind the other classes. It makes me want to cry a bit :(
     
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    I go late all of the time to PE. My class has PE with 2 other classes and those classes are always late so my students end up sitting there for 5-10 minutes which usually results in a behavioral problem.
     
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    My school's schedule is to the minute...showing up late to drop off is disrespectful of the specials teacher, showing up late to pick up is disrespectful of the teacher whose class arrives after yours. Yes, we all run late on occasion....consistently and habitually late is unprofessional.:2cents:
     
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    This ............ :thumb:
     
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    I can assure you, I am not actually a cat.

    As for the topic, I have 45 minutes with my students. I am fastidious about starting on time and am usually good about ending on time, if not early. However, being an online teacher, my students have the ability to leave my class at any time. If I realize my material is going to run over, I make the announcement that it is 2pm, and "if you need to go, you are free to go." I record all of my classes and they can watch anything they miss.
     
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    I am late by a minute or two to specials every single day. My class has specials literally as soon as the tardy bell rings. We let students in the room at 7:50. Announcements, pledge, etc start at 7:55, but by the time I get attendance and lunch count don't and the announcements finish, it's often 8:00 before we are out the door. I wish we could do attendance and lunch count after specials, but they have to be turned in by 8:30.
     
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    I think this holds true only if the teacher is purposefully pre-determining they are going to be late / give extra time to their kids in their home class.

    When we're late, it's for an instructional reason...if I arrive there to pick them up the kids from say, PE, on time, but they're running a couple minutes late because they're having a discussion about what was done that day...not a chance I'm going to be mad, for that very same reason.
     
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    In my two years as a classroom teacher, the longest I've made a specialist wait for my kids is forty-five seconds.
     
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    Time is really important in a school. Teachers who are late can reduce how much time the next teacher gets. Lateness is often done by teachers who want a bit extra of prep time. I believe lateness=selfishness. It is disrespectful to one's colleagues.
     
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    I do see it as vitally important.

    By deciding YOUR instructional reason to go a couple minutes over is more important than specials instruction is a problem. Especially when that specials teacher has thirty or forty regular classroom teachers who might be so inconsiderate. It becomes a major problem..

    Related arts teachers shouldn't feel comfortable cutting into the regular instructional time either. Students should be ready to head back to class the minute the schedule says so.

    I'm not saying things won't happen...but those things should rarely happen and teachers should apologize to one another. I don't mean beg forgiveness and send flowers, but "Oh, so sorry...the fire drill has up behind this morning."
     
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    I hope teachers who are habitually ten minutes late bringing their students to the specials don't expect the specials to keep their students ten minutes extra to make up the time. (We had those teachers in our elementary. They were not beloved.) My sister is a music teacher, and teachers who consider their time more valuable than hers cause great problems.
     
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    I suppose it's just two different communities that we have (one of those agree to disagree kind of moments). Myself and other teachers around here are never habitually late (i.e. a significant amount of time) either to specialists or switching between our classes (we swap kids for math and again later for science). There are set times, but I bet you only a small fraction of the time are we right smack dab on the mark.

    I just don't see myself cutting a kid off in the middle of their discussion of a concept solely to get to a specialist or another classroom or even to leave when the bell rings at the end of the day...for what would be just a minute, and I would hope my colleagues felt the same (I've never been frustrated about kids coming down a minute or two late from our swaps). And I'm not about to let kids get off the hook for their behavior by just letting them walk down towards the specialist just because we'd otherwise be a minute or two late.

    I'd also like to clarify, just for the sake that I'm not being taken as rude/disrespectful in an unwarranted fashion, that I never said my decision was more important than theirs, nor did I say their decision would be more important than mine if they ran slightly late in specialist (which they have done on several occasions for no maligned reason).

    And the comment about extra planning time? Not sure how that makes sense...if you get there a minute late, you have a minute less time. I definitely don't expect them to go late in specials no matter when we get there, and in fact show up a minute or so early just in case.
     
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