Are you a Know-It-All???

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  1. Master Pre-K

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    As teachers, are we the ultimate beast in a college classroom??

    Are we some times overachievers, too smart-for-our own good, the know-it all, can't stand to follow people who are lost, and second-guessing-the boss kind of people, simply because we are educated educators?? :)

    My second night of class (special ed for early childhood) , and teacher says write out an IEP using state goals, text, and her cheat sheet. My problem is..uh....5 people have never taken a course in education..parents, major changers..etc. They don't even know how to write a lesson plan, why would you ask them to write an indivualized education plan!

    Lady in front of me sees me scurring away and says, "boy you guys know this stuff, I don't know what she is talking about, or where to begin." (I was listening weren't you??) I try to explain, and then remember that's what the teacher is for. She asks my other classmate, then I get frustrated and get back to work. She keeps making comments, "wow, look how much she wrote down, she really knows this stuff."

    Is it just me, or am I annoying people with my small amount of gray matter that is doing what I need it to do?

    Boss is really upset with me, because I keep second guessing her. She corrects me for making changes, I just want the kids safe, and me sane. I ask other teachers to cover me, or move some kids out to other rooms. She says she was working on that, would send someone over to my room (when, 5 minutes before I go home??) I make management decisions, and technically, I am not management. Unless of course, she is not there...then guess what??

    Do you find some people may be offended, even threatened by the fact that you seem to analyze their thoughts, and prepare rebuttals to their statements? I don't plan to p*ss people off, but I am tired of hearing 'kenny garden' and not kindergarten! I correct teachers around me. :eek:

    Get this, my daughter is my worst nightmare! She corrects me, and I know she is right!

    Have I created an intellectual monster?

    Am I the only one???
     
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  3. teachingmomof4

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    Our secretary is a know-it-all and so is her daughter (another teacher at our school.) You can't so much as have a conversation with anyone (even if they are not in on the conversation) without one of them butting in if they are around. It doesn't matter what you are talking about...they know it all. Anywhere from what type of car to buy to how to install a sprinkler system in our yard. It must be nice to know everything. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Master Pre-K

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    does that mean that they can't learn anything?? :cool:

    I used to give up after shouting matches with my ex and say.

    Okay, it's my fault, I did. I am the one to blame. Everything I did was wrong, and that's why everything is messed up.

    Like a four year old, he said, "That's what I''ve been saying to you."
    "Yes", I said. "Everything is my fault because we know you won't do anything!"

    He starts cursing at me, and I walk away while he starts arguing all over again.

    This time alone. So he follows me out the room.

    "You are not talking to me"..
    "No, because this is not a reasonable, adult conversation."
    "And why is that??"
    "Because ......"

    somebody please fill in the blanks for him
     
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    First off, I think your college prof. doesn't know how to teach well , or she would not have handed out an assignment like that in the beginning of class- perhaps as a culminating project. She seems like she is being forced to teach this class after reading your other thread.

    I think the problem with some people is not knowing something it's the way in which we present that information. You can present information in a way that doesn't sound like you know it all. Maybe your boss actually did know what to do. Perhaps you should give her the benefit of the doubt.

    I'm not trying to make you feel bad for being a smarty:) Just saying, people can be intimidated by it, so present it in a way that doesn't come off as "snobbish" or like a know it all.
     
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    I don't think it's limited to the college classroom. After 3 years of teaching (about 11 years ago) I decided to leave and work as a librarian. I was only making about $8.50 an hour (Head Start) and the librarian gig paid $12 an hour; dh and I desperately wanted to buy a house. When I interviewed for the librarian job they told me up front that they already had a lot of ex-teachers working at the library and it was difficult to work with them because they were bossy, used to always being right, and always wanted to be in charge. I only lasted about 2 years at the library before I went back to teaching, they were right :)
     
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    Well, I have learned to be very conscious of how I talk to my husband. It can quickly turn into a conversation where I am wondering just who he thinks he is talking to. Then, I remember that he is talking to his wife, not his teacher. He doesn't have to take every word I say as the truth :cool: However, if he wants to know the RIGHT answer, he would listen to me! :D LOL
     
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    I think teachers do tend to be bossy and feel the need to be in charge of things. It is the nature of the beast. I also have learned to acknowledge the IMPORTANT fact that we were given two eyes, two ears, and ONE mouth........guess God had that all figured out, didn't he!;)
     
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    Yes, 2 ears and 1 mouth....no one likes to be bossed around!
     
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    I just finished an EXCRUCIATINGLY long two week class (we met 8am - 5pm every day!) for teachers, and there was one person that the other 24 of us were ready to "impeach" (for lack of a nicer word!) by the second day. She had to comment on, question, critique, repeat (you get the picture) every single thing that the instructors did. I will be hearing her voice in my dreams for a long time, I fear!
     
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    So funny that I ran across this thread. I was just talking to my mother about this yesterday. Since I've began teaching I feel like a control freak! I want things the way I want them, and sometimes find myself being rather snobbish about it. Don't get me wrong, I'm a very easy going person, but when it comes to my life and things around me, I like to be in charge or at least part of what's going on. I used to be so shy and always part of the background. Teaching has given me the confidence to be a go getter, and I like it!
     
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    and you can't go backwards!

    And I learned that once I became a teacher, I could not go back to being an aide. Vannapak, you really opened our eyes when you said that job wouldn't hire former teachers...we are bossy! Wow!

    I have taken several aide/assistant positions just because I was between jobs. Looking over my resume, the principals practically insulted me saying I had no business applying for the aide job. I was over qualified. I said, yes, but I need the job. No teaching jobs were open, and they knew this.

    In each case, I lasted maybe 3-6 months. Once I was a playground aide, and I actually liked it until one day a kid told me: "You are not a real teacher!" I said, "Yes I am, I've got degrees and credentials and taught for years." Then he says, "So what are you doing standing in the playground talking to me!"

    From the mouths of babes! :rolleyes:

    I shortly took an offer back home, and proudly told this kid I would be leaving soon. He was a 5th grader, and told me. "That's good, I am happy for you."
     
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    Heh, I just asked my husband if people in his field (research & development) drew know-it-alls the way the teaching profession does (no offense!!). My last career had me trying to find measurable (process driven) ways of reducing costs and increasing productivity (can you say, layoffs??). It drew a bunch of know-it-alls too! I'm doomed to be surrounded by people who know they are right (even tho it is ME who is right :D )!!
     
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    Acting like a "Know it all" sure gets us real "Know it alls" steamed!
     
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    Oh, I knew I would get you over here!!! :D
     
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    Thank the Lord, I'm coming home! I've finally found my place in the world, and it's gonna fit like a glove! My family (siblings, that is) have told me since they could talk that I'm bossy. I'm not bossy, I am (1) a Leo, (2) knowledgeable (and if I don't know something, I look it up!, and (3) an all or nothing perfectionist. If I can't do something the right way, or 100%, then I just don't do it. Guess that part is gonna have to change when I'm in the classroom, huh?
     
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    You should have argued naked, Bill Engvall does...........LOL... :D
    :eek:
    Dang what a mental picture I just gave everybody sorry
    :sorry:
     
  18. Master Pre-K

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    now dave, you know we would not be arguing if I was naked!

    He would have just started the argument over in the morning!

    Hmmm, now I know what to do the next time I want to stop an argument. :D
     
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    assertive vs know-it all and the power freak

    No Pwhatley...you will grow, and do great things! :D

    I tell you the first time I ever felt really powerful: When I was an aide and in charge of the lunchroom! I told those kids, "Quiet signs up!", and everyone, even the gang banging 5th graders, slowly held up a finger. (still resisting holding up their whole arm)

    For the first time, everyone was looking at me, and I was in charge!

    What a rush!

    The rest of my life, I have just been pretty much a pushover. If I try to assert myself, I usually get kicked around or fired.

    As I learned more, I did more, and expected more! Whoa! Write that down somebody!!!:eek:


    But I never wanted to be a control freak or power freak. I don't finish sentences. I don't change tires. I will not give directions to somebody in Spanish.

    I can, but I have not tried all of the above in one day.

    Difference is, I think, is that I don't do it all the time. Sometimes, I just sit there and let somebody else do it. I got folks asking me what time it is, and I say I don't know. They glare at me, because I am wearing a watch! I think to myself, yeah I know. It's time for you to buy a watch!

    Also, you get to see just how dumb other people (co-workers) are when they try to explain something. :p
     
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    I treasure a button that someone gave me on the occasion of - well, never mind which degree:

    It's a Sandra Boynton button, early vintage, and it's captioned "ERUDITER THAN YOU".

    And the accompanying image shows, in full academic drag... a turkey.
     
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    Oh! Oh! I want a boynton button like that :) :love:
     
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    Dunno whether they can still be bought.
     
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    I saw it - on eBay. There was a set of six, sold long ago. It is soooo adorable, I love it!

    Here's my dream: someone throws me a teacher shower (see my prior thread), and I get two gifts: an Oxford English Dictionary and an "Eruditer" button. Hahahahaha!
     
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    I had to get my Oxford English Dictionary out and look up "Erudite" in 33+ years of teaching I had never heard or read the word!

    In wood shop I get words like Paduak, Goncalo Alves, Ipe, Jatoba, Makore, Morado and Pau Amarillo (exotic lumbers) I guess I am not a "know it all" after all.
     
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    And the award for funniest A-Zer goes to...... Irishdave!!!! ROTFLOL! I still have that image of you putting coins and dollar bills under bits of wood in your woodshop to get the kids to clean up- priceless!!! I told that one to dh (non-teacher) and even HE thought it was hilarious.
     
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    Now I know How Sally Field Felt. (upon accepting her 1985 Best Actress Oscar):D
     
  27. Master Pre-K

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    we are also sarcastic and masters of put-downs

    We can insult people and they don't even realize it!

    "Of course I wouldn't ask you to do that dear. I know it is too much for you."

    People who have a few cards less than a deck get upset with us, and always want to have the last word...ah there is a new post! People who insist on having the last word!!!!

    Having the last word doesn't make you right.

    Just makes you last!

    Weren't you there already?? :D

    (folks say I missed my calling. I should be a librarian...or a stand up comic!)
     
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    Dr. Phil has two sayings that I just love:

    "Are you kidding me?"

    "Do you want to fix this, or do you want to just be right?"
     
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    The thing is, this is a real toss up at times. lol
     
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    Yeah, but mostly, we bossy teachers want to be right. :D
     
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    Yeah, Tasha and OtterMom mostly we want to fix it too! Afterall, we are the experts! :rolleyes:

    I always say in a job interview, the one characterisitic that best describes me is I am resourceful. If I can't do it, I can sure find out how, or get somebody who will do it and show me.

    Taking a mental health day. Well my back was hurting. Taking a "I-need-a-break-to-figure-out-my-next-move" day. I know they want to fire me, and they can't do it if I am off.
     
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    I am a little bit of a know it all
     
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    join the club... and stand tall ....we are the few,

    the proud...THE TEACHERS!

    We are entitled to be know-it-alls!

    Just don't be a pain, take a day off and let somebody pretend they can do something! :d
     
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    The original question was "Are you a Know-It-All???"
    I suspect the people who have input on this site know a lot, but do not have another place to express themselves. They are to nice to others in their personal contacts, even nice to "know-it-alls."

    One big deal for me was moving to the big city. For some reason it seemed like the city people were better than everyone else - they were wealthy, they had better scores in school, they were everything. As it turned out, they somehow just made us country farmers think that. For example, I noticed that they didn't really learn the academic material as well, they thought easy physical labor was difficult, they weren't better at much of anything. I think it was just their money and their socializing that made them seem so intimidating.
     
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    OIC...I lived in the big city, and the small towns too. It is a big difference in attitude, isn't it!

    Which will probably take you over to my NCLB, hate it, love it, doesn't affect me thread. You see, if we were all given the same opportunities in education, the big wigs downtown would not be so quick to point fingers, and name names. There is a lot to be said for practical learning, as you pointed out. Some people think less of others, just because of where they grew up.

    should not be the case.

    we were talking about people we meet (yours truly) especially teachers, who always have the last word, and think we are experts on everything...including brain surgery!

    when one person becomes that obnoxious, we step back, and see ourselves in a whole new light.

    I like to clam up every now and then, just to see what somebody else knows...or does not know, which is usually the case!

    If you talk all the time, you don't give others a chance.

    guess I've talked long enough :lol:
     

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