Discussion in 'General Education' started by Tired Teacher, Oct 12, 2019.
Oct 21, 2019
"Maybe this is a teachable moment" LOL
Oct 23, 2019
Do you have any references for this?
Oct 25, 2019
I have never heard either of those terms stressed around here. I think prof responsibility is kind of rude sounding. Like teachers don't know how to be professional. I'll be retired before those words make it here...lol, hopefully! Yeah, we get speeches sometimes too that are meant for maybe 1 or 2 people too. I am unsure why admin doesn't just talk directly (and nicely) to the person.
Oct 26, 2019
Wow! That is horrible. ( An 80% increase in suicide amongst teachers!) Ofsted sounds horrid. It makes sense too that teachers who were older were more tied into the system and younger teachers were more likely to quit.
The only thing I have seen comparable to that in stress was when No Child Left Behind had been out awhile and they started labeling schools low performing schools and the state ( or a group of micromanaging people) would take over the school.
It was like negative evaluators moved into the schools and told teachers what to do, how to do it, and generally made everyone's lives miserable. I was very blessed not to work at a low performing school, but had friends in other districts who mostly quit ( 1 stayed) because it got so bad.
It was like they wanted the teachers to quit, so they could start all over with the hiring process.
Suicides are not publicized where I live like they maybe in other places. I was shocked when 2 teachers came to our school from a bush area to observe. They told me that they had had their 14th suicide of the year in a tiny village. That was a long time ago and I was shocked that it had not been on the news. That is when I started being more aware of the problem existed, but wasn't reported on....( A squirrel moment, I know.)
I hope you and your school are doing OK w/ the crazies ( Ofsted). I hope you can encourage yourself and those around you of an old Latin phrase my dad used to say. I can't spell it, but it meant, " Don't let the B------- Get Ya Down.
Nil Carborundum Illegitimi is the phrase but it is not real Latin.
We are now in the situation in England (Scotland and Ireland operate under a different system) where we are about 100,000 teachers short (We should have 500,000ish). Recruitment of new teachers has missed its target for at least the last 5 years. Of those that are recruited and trained about 40% leave in the first 3 years and by 5 years 50% have left. At the other end experienced teachers (like me) are taking the chance to retire early if they can. We have not had a pay rise in 10 years although the Government has promised 5% in the next 2 but no-one expects them to honour the promise.
I love it! I just remember my dad saying it a lot! What language is it?
Wow! What do they do? Hire subs or nonqualified teachers? I am so sorry and hope you get your retirement soon! Where I work/live there is a lack of job openings, but I read somewhere that Arizona had to start recruiting teachers from the Philippines to fill their vacancies. That is just plain wrong! How many more years do you have to put in to be done?
Sort of dog latin. Illegitimi sounds Latinish for B****ds and Carborundum is a brand name for the material they make grinding wheels from which also sounds a bit latinish.
I am retired. I am one of the ones that left early (at 59). Now I just do a bit of subbing here and there. So far this term (Sept and Oct) I have managed about 5 weeks. Not planning to do much between now and Christmas. perhaps a few days if I am asked. If you want regular subbing then you can find all the work you want especially if you are Maths, Science or English. (I am science). This year is my 30th year in the classroom. At the school I subbed at for the last three weeks I was the oldest teacher in the dept by about 20 years and certainly had at least 15 more years in the classroom than the rest of the regular scientists.
OMGoodness! That makes total sense. I said it 1x yrs ago on a payphone in a Spanish speaking place. One guy looked at me and I knew he heard and had understood me by the look on his face.....lol I thought I was being all sly!
Oh, Congrats on your retirement! I am happy for you! It sounds like a good time to be out of that system and as a sub, you are not having to deal w/ it long term. I am 59 too. I have been in the classroom about 30 yrs too, but a few of them were as a school counselor. I was going to quit after last yr, but got offered something special for 1 yr only and took it. I am having an easy time of it this year. The only thing that really holds me back from jumping into retirement is if I am not 62, I have to pay for my health insurance and it is sky high where I live. ( About 1200 per month...) I may take the leap anyways depending upon how I feel at the yr's end.
Advantage of socialised healthcare. No insurance cost worries.
No kidding. Is the healthcare good there? I was in England when the new London Bridge was opened. I was a kid. I thought it was cool to see a queen....lol Plus, I remember a guy giving me a copy of a jr high history book. The American Revolution was described so differently than our books taught us! haha
Healthcare is pretty good. It can have its problems. We also have a nurse and doctor shortage but generally if you are seriously ill you get the care you need at zero cost. All emergency care including ambulances is free. Meds are free up to age 18 and over 60 and have a nominal charge inbetween.
That is good. I remember yrs back, people would come to Mexico from Canada because of problems with getting appointments or things done timely. They had US trained and licensed drs in MX. that were inexpensive compared to here. They usually lived in the states, but would open offices over there because it was so much cheaper and I think they had fewer restrictions placed on them.
Oct 27, 2019
PLC is my teacher one. I hate it almost as much as the terms "play date" or "entertaining." Where I'm from we say get together. lol
OMGoodness, I hate the term "playdate" too! It reminds me of yuppies. Just plan on having the kids get together! I hear playdate all of the time. This is bad, but funny. I see PLC everywhere in our district emails, but am pretty clueless. Personalized Learning _C___? Just guessing!
Personalized Learning Community.
I like the idea of them. I dislike how no one seems to have any idea how to do them.
OK, yeah! lol I do remember we stood in a circle once and built community! Not only do we not know how to do them, I had totally forgotten what it stood for.....lol
Once long ago, I attended a three-day training that taught some great methods to making the most of PLC. Good stuff.
Yet, it always seems to be quietly reading the math unit or something.
And, oh! A recent one where we actually had a big plan was sabotaged by "how to be happy during PLCs".
"When we know better, we do better."
My P's standard response to anything she perceives as a "complaint" is, "This is the work." It drives me crazy!
Oct 28, 2019
Interesting - I was under the impression that it stood for Professional Learning Community. That said, the terminology could change slightly across the country.
My assistant superintendent says the same thing! It’s actually her catchphrase that everyone rolls their eyes and repeats when we think that something we are doing is ridiculous. I thought she made it up, but now I’m wondering if she and your P read it in a book or something.
I know that we don’t even live in the same state, but, based on the phrases you’ve shared, we could easily be in the same district. If I didn’t know better, I’d think we were.
That’s what it means around here, as well.
You're right. I had a typo.
Any involvement with Relay or UVA (some educational thing out of the University of Virginia?) Yes, we are nowhere near Virginia, yet somehow we are very involved with them... I'm pretty sure that's where my P is getting those phrases.
Oh, and I just thought of another one....gaslighting.
I've heard that term so much lately. Definitely a buzzword.
Nov 2, 2019
Oh, this sounds like it could be interesting! Our district web page has PLC all over it, but we were NEVER trained in it.
I have never heard this 1 used like that, but we have 1 close to it. "It is what it is." I really do not like it. It implies we have no power to change the kid or situation.
Bella, It is good your staff has kept their sense of humor. I used to roll my eyes "outloud." I was totally unaware I was doing it. 1 day a boss told us as a group that she felt very disrespected by the eyerolling.
A group of us who sat together a lot assumed she was talking about one of our other friends and I did too. We'd tease her about it unmercifully.
Then when I got evaluated, the P did not write it down, but brought it up how much it bothered her when I did it. I seriously was unaware it was me. I about died. From that point on, I taught myself to monitor and make sure I rolled my eyes silently! Like I just would think it and make sure my eyes on the outside did not move.
I haven't heard "gaslighting" used as a term in ed ever. What does it mean or refer to in ed?
We had a P who did some major gaslighting techniques though at 1 x. It took awhile for us to figure it out.
He'd do stuff like email 1 group something or maybe tell them something, but the others never knew. K-3 meetings were separate from 4-6 meetings. Then when some of us didn't know the answer to something, we'd check email. ( Nothing was there.)
Then we'd go to him and his response was always a stern, "Check your email." So we learned to just ask each other or freak out that we had missed something..
I remember times wondering what the _ is going on?....Did I somehow miss the email or note in a meeting? Was my name not on an email list? He wasn't approachable enough to even ask about that!
Then 1 day a group of us somehow amassed in the same place with the same Q.
2 teachers were furious about it. To me, I was just happy my sanity was intact and it wasn't just me. At 1st I really thought he maybe just forgot which group he told or accidently only emailed half the staff. Then trying to save face or not remembering, he'd say he told us all. The more I knew him, the more I realized how he liked to keep staff divided and didn't really want anyone feeling too comfortable. That was just 1 way he'd do it.
I had an assistant Head teacher (Sport of Vice P in yourspeak) complain to the Headteacher that I had been disrespectful to her. She was fairly new to the school whereas I had worked with the HT for about 15 years (in fact, when I started I was his boss). He asked me to have a chat with her about it. She was a lazy person who only arrived at school just before the bell. and left when it rang at the end of the day. It was winter with snow on the ground. I waited for her to pull into the car park and wandered over. I was wearing my thick coat, hat. gloves etc. She had just got out of her warm car and wasn't clothed for the weather. We had our 'chat'. She didn't thaw out until recess! She was let go a few months later.
Nov 3, 2019
Oh, how funny! Not thawing out until recess! I can only imagine chatting in the cold like that w/out a good coat, hat, or gloves. She probably never complained again!
One of my pet peeve statements is "I'm here for the kids!" I feel like saying, "What do you think I'm here for, the free beer?"
Laughing! We had a teacher who used to always play that card when she wanted something! I did not like it either!
Nov 4, 2019
We had a teacher who kept saying that but then quit when she didn't get her way. Guess it was all about HER.
Nov 9, 2019
That is funny! I know that saying is annoying. I haven't heard it in a long time. Thankfully!
Nov 12, 2019
Anybody else hate it when people refer to students as "kiddos"? I get it with elementary students, but I definitely wouldn't refer to my 7th graders as "kiddos".
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