Another "bad person" question

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  1. Jerseygirlteach

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    Are you a bad person if you have bad thoughts? So, for example, if someone showed good character (in your opinion) in their actions, but you read their diary and found many offensive and/or inappropriate feelings and thoughts - would you think them "bad"?

    I'll give examples:

    A teacher is great with his students. They love him, are highly engaged, and make great progress. He appears to be a great teacher in every way. When he gets home every day, however, he spends hours complaining to his wife about how "stupid and annoying" the kids are. He mocks the way some of them fail to learn when he's in the privacy of his own home.

    A political leader has done great things for the people she represents. She has improved the economy, infrastructure, crime rate, etc. for all. In her diary, she writes things that are highly offensive to some groups of people. She does not act on these feelings, but she has them and states them somewhere private.

    So...is someone "bad" if they feel a certain way, even if they don't act on it?
     
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  3. Cerek

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    Everyone has "bad" thoughts at some time or another, depending on their situation. It's human nature. Having bad thoughts does not make one a bad person. ACTING on those bad thoughts could. However, as discussed in the other thread(s), "bad" is very subjective.

    Most teachers I've known make comments about their more difficult or challenging students. Part of that is just a way to release the frustrations they may feel from dealing with that set of challenges on a daily basis - especially when there never seems to be any improvement no matter what they do to help improve the situation. But if a teacher is talking like that privately about all students in general on a daily basis, then they can't really be happy in the job they are doing and - for their sake as well as the kids' - it might be best for them to consider a different career.
     
  4. Ms. I

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    IMO, the person is only a genuinely bad person if they do immoral, unethical actions or does something to break the law when they think no one's looking or in the privacy of their own homes. So, using your ex of the teacher, he can be a stellar teacher at work, but I don't think venting & thinking they're misfits when he's at home is a crime. As long as he doesn't outwardly show it in public. Now, if he secretly looks at child porn or molests kids back at home, that's definitely an immoral, bad person of course.

    With the politician ex, well if she wants to call certain races of people X, Y, & Z, I guess that's up to her as long as she doesn't outwardly show/do it & still acts fairly, etc. out in the public eye.

    There's also a fine line btwn what I said above & putting on a facade. Sure, we would hope & like for a teacher to truly love all kids & think they all have great minds & all have a chance to reach their fullest potential or the politician to think good thoughts about all people all the time, but we all know not every single teacher nor politician truly thinks that way. They'll nev admit it verbally, but in their minds, perhaps so.

    Take my BF's lousy dad. Now he's not in prison or anything, but he's a bad person & a waste of space on this earth who's done immoral things & my BF pretty much agrees. His dad only thinks of no one, but himself & adds nothing positive to society, his family, etc. My BF could write a book of all the bad he's done. My BF & I think he should be in prison though...we're serious.
     
  5. kellzy

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    While I think that bad thoughts don't constitute a bad person, since every single one of us have bad thoughts, I think you need to be careful to attempt to control those thoughts, lest you begin acting on them.
     
  6. Caesar753

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    I don't think that disliking some people or thinking that some people are stupid is wrong. Some people are stupid.
     
  7. i8myhomework

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    I think actions speak louder than words.

    But I also think people are hard on themselves and other people. I think you should think what you want to think. Bad thoughts don't make a bad person.

    I tend to believe we are all more complex than just "bad" or "good".
     
  8. TeacherNY

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    People are thinking way too much into this. Be the best person you can be. Let others be.
     
  9. kcjo13

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    Ask Paula Deen. She seemed like a pretty good person, until she wasn't.
     
  10. TeacherNY

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    This is a good example of people having different definitions of good and bad. She isn't a murder so it's hard to say if she's a bad person or did things that were wrong/in poor judgement.
     
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    I know-that's why I left my statement very open-ended...
     
  12. Ms. I

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    Based on what I previously said, her mistake was letting her feelings go public (which is what I said shouldn't be done). Is she bad? Well, some people may think so & will forever have a different feeling or opinion about her...not good for someone who needs TV show ratings for her show or people to buy her stuff. If she wasn't so well known already, her doing what she did, of course would have been worse for her.
     

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