Am I a nutcase? Discipline proposal??!!

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  1. MrsB2B

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    Hi all!

    I teach in a very low income school and sadly, it's obvious that discipline is not a huge priority in the lower grades. We have a new principal who is still getting his feet wet and has yet to address certain things. I have a really good relationship with him and thought of writing a proposal for a common discipline plan in grades 3-5.

    In middle school last year, we had a school wide behavior plan that worked wonderfully! Even specialists handled discipline the same way. It was a basic name on board for warning, check mark means silent lunch, etc, etc. Simple but effective.

    I am in 4th grade this year and think something similar would also work here.

    Does anyone have any thoughts? I am writing a rough draft of the proposal now and can PM anyone who wouldn't mind taking a look at it for me.

    I also need help with consequences. It seems they keep taking away all good punishments (walking laps, writing, etc.).

    Any ideas, help, criticism, or suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!

    I've never written a proposal before, but think it will really help our school!

    THANKS!!!!

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    While I don't agree with your system and consequences, I think it's a great idea to have a school wide discipline plan. Good luck!
     
  4. MrsB2B

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    Thanks!

    Do you have any suggestions? I'm just going on what my principal made us do last year, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
     
  5. INteacher

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    My suggestion would be to include a few colleagues in writing the proposal. I think your P would buy into the proposal if it appeared to have more support across the board. Maybe include one teacher from each grade level . . .. I know the programs that have been the most successful in my building are ones presented by a committee of teachers. I think if makes us feel part of the group instead of one person's idea shoved down our throats (not that this is your intention at all).
     
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    I agree with this. That way it's a system that every grade level had a hand in coming up with so it will work with all grade levels. I don't particularly like the name on board, checkmark system. Have you looked into Teaching with Love & Logic?
     
  7. MrsB2B

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    Thank INTeacher...funny you mentioned it. I did talk with colleagues, but as I said, people don't have motivation here. Nobody wants to help, but I think it's because nobody sees it. They think the kids are supposed to behave this way. Last year, I was in the same demographic in a different county and the kids responded to the system. The one person that would work on it with me is a younger grades teacher and she is moving!

    Thanks for the tip though...I totally agree working with people is better. That's what I'm used to, but it seems here that it's survival of the fittest.
     
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    Hey guys-- again I'm just going on what my principal made us do last year. It worked there. I would love suggestions of things that you guys are doing in your school or your classroom though!

    I was always taught that checkmarks were bad, but we were told to do it and had no problems. There was a frequent flier clause (the kid who always has his name on the board). If it's the same kid, the teacher had to write a behavior contract with the child.

    I would love ideas. I am looking into Love and Logic and Power Teaching. Thanks!!
     
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    MrsB,

    From experience, I can tell you that if you can't even get a group of colleagues together to write the proposal, you are more than likely wasting your time even writing it. The only way a school-wide discipline system will work is if everyone (or the majority) buy into it. If they don't, it will look good on paper, but nobody will do it, and administration won't follow through on it.

    If you don't have the help of your colleagues from all grade levels, no matter what you come up with, someone will find a reason why "it won't work." And nothing will ever be done.

    I'm not trying to rain on your parade. I just know "how the game is played." I would say, "save your energy for things you do have control of" -- like your own class. Look into some of the wonderful systems out there. Try Love and Logic, or Power Teaching, or whatever. When it works for you, others will see that, and will want to "buy in." Then you can get them involved with making it school-wide.
     
  10. 773 Miles Away

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    I agree with RainStorm. If you're swimming against the current already.. it seems hard to believe it will get easier. Perhaps you could mention something in a faculty meeting? "I wonder if we should talk about the various discipline plans here? Can we share what seems to work and what doesn't? Maybe we can brainstorm a school wide policy?" By asking more casual questions like these, it makes it seem like you are simply exploring the concept and not necessarily trying to implement a change. Then you can see the response for whether to move into high gear.

    In general, worry about your own class first. You certainly should have your own discipline policy that you implement on your own. Perhaps if others see that your class stands out with better behavior they will jump on board.
     

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