After-Care of Staff Children

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  1. popinmar

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    Any teacher I know that has children at the school they teach are able to keep their children with them after dismissal. Our administration has removed that privilege this year, saying if we can find policy from another school that allows it, they will reconsider. Does anyone know of such policy in writing?
     
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  3. Aliceacc

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    It's not done in my school, sorry.

    We pay $1000 a month to have someone watch my 3 kids for an hour before school and again for an hour or so after school.
     
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    No, here it is up to the principal at each school as to what they allow. My friend has had to enroll her children in before/after care at school, even though she is right down the hall, and it's only for 15-20 minutes a day. I am lucky enough that my principal doesn't care, and lets me keep my kids in my classroom with me....and even when we have staff meetings or whatever, she doesn't mind if they stay in my room unsupervised.
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    Not allowed in my home district or the district I teach in. By the way, what would you do with your children when you have faculty meetings, grade level meetings, or parent conferences or days for in-service?
     
  6. TiffanyL

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    Same here.....kids can stay in mom's class before school, after school, during meetings, etc. I know it has caused some problems, however, and can be a less-than ideal situation when kids are left unsupervised.
     
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    In my school the teachers kids can stay with them before school and after school. As far as I know it's never been a problem.
     
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    The school where my kids went to elementary school allows the teachers to keep their children with them before and after school or bring them to before or after care. They are not charged anything for before or after care. I worked for the after care program until my youngest went to school and I was even allowed to bring him with me and the pre-k and k after care person had him. I tutored the older kids. My son was 18 months when I started working there.
     
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    My daughter attends an elementary school in the district where I work but not the building where I teach. I had to pay for before and after care for her for kindergarten and first grade. Now my husband works from home and we don't need extra care. When she gets to the Jr. High, she will be able to hang out in my room or go to one of the study halls.
     
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    Well, it is allowed at my school. That is school aged children. They walk from their room to the teacher's room and stay in there. Some go out to the play ground during faculty meetings or watch TV in the rooms. This is the way it has been in the 3 school districts I have been in but I have never seen it in writing anywhere.
     
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    Oh, one time I taught in one building and my son went to another. The district let him ride the bus to my school. They do that here at the district I am in also.
     
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    In my home district, teacher's children are allowed to come to their rooms before/after school. In fact, one day I was subbing for a friend who teaches at the middle school. Her daughters went to the elementary school. The girls would bus over to the middle school and hang out in her "office" (she was a science teacher and had a storage closet) or to the main office for about an hour. The district I taught at last had an after school care. On days that we had meetings, teacher's kids could go there free of charge, any other day they were allowed in the classroom.
     
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    That's chicken@#$. As long as they are under your supervision, they are your kids for cryin' out loud.

    Since your time after school isn't contractual under most cases, I think you have a right to have your children with you.
     
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    I don't know that we actually have anything in writing (I'm pretty sure this has just been more of a verbal thing at our school), but we can have our kids in our room with us if we want. Or we can have them stay in the after school care until we are done (for free).
     
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    It's the same for us. We have 2 teachers who have children in the school and they have their kids with them after school. If we have an afterschool meeting the kids usually stay in their mom's room on the computer or watching a movie or go into the computer lab.
     
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    The kids at my school usually hang around before and after school.. some of the older ones watch the younger ones. They know to keep themselves occupied and I don't know of any problems ever cause by it.
     
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    From my point of view I would LOVE a policy like that. It informally happens (teenagers) in our school but sometimes they are kicked out. From the school's perspective, I don't think it makes sense. Again, it boils down to liability. They may be under your care but they aren't there during school hours. I would wonder what would happen liability wise (insurance) if anything were to ever happen.
     
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    Thanks for all your responses. Sounds like it just depends on administration. We're told that allowing faculty to keep their kids with them could potentially be considered discriminatory to those who do not have children.

    Also, someone mentioned it not being contractural time, but it actually would overlap by up to an hour.
     
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    I think some of the concerns are:
    kids being unsupervised during meeting time, and the liability of that,
    using your contracted prep time (esp. before school in my case, because we have 55 minutes daily before school that we are required to be in the building before the kids come) to do your own children's care

    Kim
     
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    I have childcare arranged for inservice days and parent teacher conference days...just a friend of mine who helps me out once in a while. If I have to meet with a parent during a day that isn't specifically set aside for conferences, the Kdg teacher next to me will let my kids hang out in her room.
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    Huh? Discriminatory to those who do not have children. In what possible way? I don't get it.

    My kids go to the school where I teach. I am so jealous of those who get free after-care. Wow. I pay $1,050 per month for my two to go four days from 2:45 til 6:00. No discount for sibs even. Boo!

    I chose to put them in after-care because I have new teacher training all the time after school, plus staff/team meetings, parent meetings, SSTs, etc. and want them to be supervised. Also, they have fun things to do in after-care. I pick them up early all the time and let them hang out in my room when I don't have meetings. It's up to me.

    However, the parents are all told not to leave their kids unsupervised on the playground after school. So it isn't fair for staff kids to be allowed to hang out alone either. I keep my kids with me until the place clears, and then they can go out and play (when they're not in after-care, I mean).
     
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    at the school where I teach, we are not even alowed to take our kids to school with us, nevermind have them after school for free! I pay a TON of $$ to get someone to take care of my daughters.
     
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    Staff members at my school bring their sick kids to our school and they hang out on the couch in the staff room when they are ill.
     
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    I don't know what the official word is at the school where I am now, no one lives in the area we draw children from. My previous school had several students who stayed in their parents rooms. Basically they understood to be quiet and keep busy. If I had to pay someone $1000+ a month to care for my children I would not be working. That is more than half my take home pay, how does it possibly pay to work at that point? I could sub half days, make half what I make now, and still be able to care for my own children!!! Sorry...I don't mean to start a rant or get into working vs. stay at home parents.
     
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    We are able to have our kids in our room. Their are three teachers at our school whose children go to the jr hi and after they are done, they catch the bus to meet us without a problem.
     
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    Whoa. I had never, ever even considered this before. Of course my dd goes to school with me, and stays with me after school. So does everyone else's kids. They have their own little "club" after school-we keep snacks in our rooms, they usually gather in someone's room to watch a movie or play a game, and eat. Sometimes they go to the gym and run around, especially if there is athletic practice. My dd is kind of the mini-student manager of the girls' basketball team right now, shagging balls and what-not. It would be a HUGE issue if we were told our kids couldn't be there. My dd was at school until 6 tonight with me during speech practice-this is unusual, dh usually comes to get her around 4 (we get out at 3:45) when I have practice, but he had a flat tire tonight. She just went to bb practice, then hung out with me and the team. No biggie.
     
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    We can have our kids with us before and after school. Mine are 7 and 13. If I have a parent/teacher conference or other sensitive item one of my teaching partners will keep an eye on my youngest. Most of the time they don't spend anytime in my classroom because other teachers come and have them do things for them. Our after-school program is free for all our school families, but my administration prefers staff children to not be in them and take up space.
     
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    Subbing is not for me. They'd have to double my pay :D It does cost that much for daycare, though, and even though it is a huge chunk of my money, I pay it. I want to teach. I was born to teach! My kids are 6 years old. In a year or two, they'll be more mature and able to hang out in my room longer. Plus, my new teacher trainings are only this year and next year, so I won't need daycare as much. Being a teacher is so right for me that my example to my daughters is worth their few hours in daycare. I think I'm a good example for them, that you can do what you love and everything will work out.
     
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    The policy at my school is that we are allowed to have our children with us. It isn't a big deal. There are eight teachers in my hall with children, one teacher that has her grandson, and our secretary's three kids. They divide themselves into groups of about three or four. When nothing is going on, the older ones can take the younger ones into the old gym. During meetings, the kids hang out in different rooms. The kids know which rooms is off limits. My room is a safe room. Even the older kids come in and get on my computers, start the smartboard, or just play games. They are all great about cleaning up. We have one teacher in the other wing that has her granddaughter with her. Most of us have banned her from our room. My own child will not play with her(they are in the same grade -- different teacher) because of her attitude. In fact the three children in our wing that are her age will not play with her. She breaks things, throws things, and will not clean up; so the teachers in our wing have banned her as a group. It caused trouble for a while until her teacher stepped up and told the grandmother we were correct in the situation. Now it isn't a big deal and she is allowed to be in my room IF I am in there.


    We do not have a written policy at my school, but my old school did. It stated that children could be in their parent's room ONLY. That they must be supervised. If the parent was in a meeting, they may pay an older child to come into the building to supervise, but they must be at least 16 years of age. The students could not be in the lounge, hallways, gym, library, or playground. They could only be in another teacher's room if invited.
     
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    No written policy, but only a problem when the parents aren't keeping their kids in the classroom. If they start running around making noise, I'll step out in the hallway and shoo them back to their parent's room.

    They aren't allowed on the playground, though, because they are supposed to be supervised at all times.

    And how on Earth is it discriminatory towards teachers who don't have kids? What...they're don't get to have noisy children trying to get their attention in their classrooms after school? Or maybe it's the snack thing. They don't get to give snacks to kids after school.
     
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    My kids have to go to before and after school care on campus.. They cannot hangout with me during contract hours. We've been having a problem at our school with some teachers who think they don't have to follow the rules and keep their kids with them in their classes. In fact, there was one teacher who signed her kid in at the before school care and then took her son with her to her class. :confused:
     
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    I've never seen teachers kids being noisy after school... i dont even know they are there unless they are walking around... which they dont do unless they have a place to go.. .no aimless wandering or messes...Wow.
     
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    This is my experience as well; the kids are occupied with computer, homework, games or a movie. Sometimes, they may help their homeroom teacher in the classroom or do odd jobs for someone nearby. They do, however, remain in the school and don't go outside. It's never been an issue.
     
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    Both of my kids rode with me to school for 6 years and stayed with me after school (about an hour) each day. Before school they were fine as kids were already there waiting for the bell.
    If I had meetings I had a parent that let my kids come over and play with hers. Once I had a meeting in the Supt. office with others and the Supt. was fine with my kid, even gave him a snack. I work in a small rural county. I never had a problem and MY KIDS stayed out of the teacher's lounge or other places like that. 1000 dollars a month for two hours a day (three kids)?
    I would hire an older kid to watch them for 1/3 of that.
     
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    We have some students who ride the bus to/from our school to ride with a parent. Other than that, children aren't usually around.
     
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    In our school teacher's kids can stay with them after school--if only they would *stay* with them. I can't count the number of times I've almost been knocked down by some of them running in the halls. We need some kind of after-school program for them...
     
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    The older kids are in school. And around here, that's considered reasonable.

    Besides, she's an adult. When she gets to my house, she takes over where ever I've left off- breakfast, dishes, feeding the dog, finding sneakers. I'm not worried that she'll burn the house down or leave the oven on.

    After school, homework is all done by the time I get there. And the kids have done it, not the sitter, but it's done right.

    If someone is sick, I can trust her judgement on giving them Tylenol or whatever; she's raised 2 kids of her own.

    She doesn't take attitude from the kids, and she's not afraid to say "no."

    I think she's a bargain!
     
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    Ditto!! It sounds like someone complained & now the admin. is trying to make the complainers happy. Have there been issues with children wandering or something maybe?
    We have some teachers that will bring their child if they have the day off or even on in service days. I even have students shadow the teacher's class & come to music. It's not an issue. They are always well behaved. :D
     
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    The TEENAGERS here can sometimes wander off into inappropriate places or "cut up" some. Sometimes the P has to enforce the "no kids in the building." If nobody is complaining and everybody is cooperating, she lets it go.

    CMW, I've heard that discriminatory thing. Here we are a special state school and some teachers have children who qualify to go there. Whereas other teachers have to send their children to public school. They don't have a choice. So they say that sometimes. Personally I could care less.
     
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    At my school (a high school) it is a definate no. If your child goes to school here they can be in the building (just like all the other students), but you can't have your kids dropped off by a bus or have them come in to the building with you while you are working. It isn't really an issue because teachers with kids just leave when the day is over, pick their kids up and do their work at home. But the kids are definately not allowed to play in the gym while their parents work.
     

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