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  1. BeccaWV83

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    This is my first post! yay! I've been reading the forums for a while, and I think you guys are great! I'd really appreciate your input in my situation.

    I graduated with a BA degree in Elementary ED in December. Since then, I've been substitute teaching. I HATE substitute teaching. I don't like being in a different class every day. I don't like waiting for the phone to ring and never knowing when and where I'm working. I don't like not being able to form relationships with students. I've been desperately searching for a full time job. I've applied for jobs within a one hour drive and haven't even been called for an interview. The last application I dropped off in my county, the Assistant Superintendent basically told me that unless I have at least two years of experience or a Masters Degree, I'm wasting my time. Most of the subs in this area have been subbing for 6-8 years and still can't find full time jobs!

    SO...Last week I saw an advertisement in the newspaper for a "Childcare Learning Center" I called and spoke to the owner and he asked me to send in my resume. I mailed my resume on Tuesday and he called me on Wednesday to set up an interview. Because I already had sub jobs set up, I couldn't interview until today. So, today I went to the interview and talked with the director of the center. She seemed impressed and told me that they are going to have a summer program for 6-12 year old that I could probably be interested in. Then, they are looking for someone to help develop the curriculum for a new Pre-K program that will begin in the fall. She said it would be a lot of work to get the program set up, and asked if I'd be interested. The pay is only 2K less than public schools.

    ANYWAY...I guess my question is...if I take a job at this private "Childcare Learning Center", and work there until I complete my Masters, do you think a public school system would be less likely to hire me because I worked there instead of subbing?
     
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  3. JaimeMarie

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    Personally I have found that Principals don't see subbing as experience. So the childcare option teaching pre-K developing the curriculum and teaching would be in your favor! At least I think so.
     
  4. MsMar

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    I really have no idea about it helping or hurting you getting hired at a later time, but it sounds like a very interesting position. Certainly better than 6 more years of doing the subbing that you can't stand! I would take this job if it were offered to me. Good luck with whatever you decide.
     
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    I agree... it sounds interesting, it would give you varied experience that lots of other job candidates don't have, and you would be working with kids of a huge variety of ages.

    What's not to love??
     
  6. kidatheart

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    If our preschools/day care centers paid that much, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat. The trouble around my area is that they pay minimum wage. Teachers in this area start around $38-43k. Even if I made twice minimum wage, I'd still only make 21000!!
     
  7. BeccaWV83

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    lol...I wish teachers around here made that much! Starting salary for teachers this year was $28K...for the 07-08 school year, it is going up to just over $29K

    I guess that's what I get for living in a "poor state"

    But of course, the cost of living is sooooooo low here
     
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    I TA'd at a private school for kids with autism for 2 years after graduating (while having no luck classroom-hunting)

    I spent 1 year as a public school ECSE teacher, didn't go back. Lots of interviews, but no offers.

    Am working this year at a preschool/childcare center while applying for public schools.

    I've gotten a lot more calls this year by this point in the year than I have any of the prior 3 years I've been huting.

    Teaching experience seems to be teaching experience. Go for it. besides, "developed curriculum for new PReK program" or whatever looks GREAT on a resume!!!
     
  9. BeccaWV83

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    Thanks guys...I think this is something I know I want to do...I just wasn't sure how it would effect my career in the future.

    If I'm offered the job, I think I'll accept it
     
  10. patti2

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    I hope I can help you for I too graduated and am in an over-saturated market. I found out the hard way that working in a daycare is NOT the best way to go. I truly believe that in any field anymore, it is not what you know, but WHO you know. I worked in a daycare and it got me nowhere! I finally looked for ANY job that would get me in the same school everyday where I could make friends and CONTACTS who would go to bat for me with the principal. They become your references and the principal already knows and respects them! I worked as a learning resource T.A. for a year and a half (not much money, but same school-same kids)...then from that I got a long term sub position and then a job....all in the same school. This year, a T.A. got the position next door to me. You really have to get that foot in the door and get known. ONce they KNOW how you teach and interact with kids...the resume comes second. I know that in my district....most of the people who already work in the building get the jobs. Get in there and use the degree you worked hard for! GOOOOOD LUCK!
     
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    The big question is how relevant the job is?

    If you're teaching PreK-K and want to continue teaching PreK, K, or 1st, then I think the job is highly relevant. If you would prefer to work with 3rd, 4th, or 5th graders, then the job may not be relevant.

    If you're allowed to do the summer program, getting students from the local public school, and teaching a PreK-K class, then this experience will probably help your chances to obtaining a public school PreK, K, or 1st grade position and will add to your resume teaching experience. Especially if you ensure the private curriculum aligns with the state standards, and can demonstrate this at future interviews.

    Good luck!
     
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    Normally I would say that working in a daycare wouldn't necessarily help your chances of getting a teaching job in a public school in the future, however, developing the curriculum for the Pre-K program is a really great. It will definitely look good on your resume. I do agree with Research Parent - if you are looking to stay in the early childhood area, then this will be great experience. Not so much for an upper elementary position. If you decide to take that position, I definitely recommend getting your Master's degree. Also, before you choose a Master's program, try to see what areas are in high demand so that you are more likely to get a job once you get your degree.
     
  13. BeccaWV83

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    I'm already working on a Masters program with a MA in Elementary Education and an Birth-Adult Reading Specialist License. I really want to work as a Reading Specialist. I DO NOT want to work in Pre-K, or K for the entire length of my career. Third Grade would actually be my grade of choice.

    I've tried to get a job as a TA, but I'm not willing to work in Severe Special ED, because I will not change diapers, and those are the o
    nly jobs that are open there too.

    The job market here is horrible. People are holding on to their jobs for as long as they possibily can. I would move to find a job, but my husband has a high paying job that we really can't afford to leave.

    I guess I should also mention that I'm only planning on working for about 2 years to pay off some debt and to be able to pay cash for my Master's so that I don't have to add to my student loans. Then, I want to have a baby (I don't have any children yet) and take 4-5 years off. I'm hoping that in those 4-5 years a lot of the older teachers retire.
     
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    In my area, I frequently see postings for Reading Teachers, so I think that you are smart to get a Reading Specialist License, especially Birth-Adult. That will allow you to apply for all grade levels. Hopefully your area will have a need for that concentration as well.
     
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    The pay is even higher in north/central Jersey. Many districts start above 43K. I'm jealous. I've even heard of a couple towns that start at 51K!
     
  16. kidatheart

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    I heard that as well! You can go on the NJEA website and they give you a list of $40+ and a list of $50+ schools.
     
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    Thanks! Do you know the link for the pay scales? I'll try to find it.
     

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