Advice for subbing High School?

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  1. irishrose

    irishrose Rookie

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    Jan 3, 2015

    Hello,
    Thank you for reading my post. I was wondering in particular when to send students to the principal? I feel this should be used very sparingly but have already had a situation or 2 where in retrospect I wondered if I should have.
    I sub at a High School in Tennessee that seems to have some pretty lax rules -- either that or maybe all High Schools are relatively unstructured?
    There's lots of attitude from students -- usually at least 1 per day but so far nothing I couldn't handle. My general policy is to report it to the classroom teacher and let him/her handle it. Your thoughts and experience on the subject are appreciated plus any general advice as I have only been doing this a couple months. I am 31 btw so I am not so young as to know nothing about life. :) Thanks much for your input!
     
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  3. dgpiaffeteach

    dgpiaffeteach Aficionado

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    I prefer my subs to handle discipline as they see fit. Whether that means demerits or being sent to the office, I'm okay with either. If a sub just leaves me a note, I usually have a chat with the student, but I rarely write demerits for something I didn't witness.

    Insubordination/constant arguing is all I'll send a kid down for. Anything else can either wait (cheating I go down and speak with the P during my plan) or I write demerits and turn those in later.
     
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    When I subbed in schools with little to no discipline from administration, I kept my rules simple. If the lesson plans called for busy work (and they usually did), they could be social as long as they could hear me over themselves and they didn't disturb other classrooms. This worked well 95% of the time and work actually got done. The rest of the time, students would find out that I have an INCREDIBLY loud voice despite my tiny stature, and I would simply let loose a single staccato "HEY!" or "YO!" (I'm originally from Philly) that tended to bring the class to a shocked silence. Students who knew me knew about this little ability and would keep their peers in line to save their ears.
     
  5. Milsey

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    Avoid 9th! 10-12 are more mature.

    The cell phones will be out, but just tell them no photos, no filming. You must pick your battles as a sub.

    If someone is a danger to others, or being extremely disruptive and distracting others, he or she must be removed immmediately!

    Be the teacher even if it's just a movie or documentary. Lead a discussion at the end. Be authoritative, not authoritarian, and they will respect you.
     
  6. bbelton60

    bbelton60 Rookie

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    Never send students to the principal. It makes it look like you can't manage your class. This is the advice (copy pasta) I gave another new sub:

    I only speak as somebody who subs secondary, never elementary. Just do exactly what the regular teacher tells you to do. Usually it's give them a work sheet or play a movie. Just be sure to take accurate attendance and make sure nobody gets hurt. This is what I do. I usually spend each period chilling in the teacher's chair and browsing the internet. Never had a problem. Ever.
     
  7. miss-m

    miss-m Devotee

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    This is pretty much my experience (I sub MS more than HS, but it's mostly the same for both). I introduce myself, tell them what they're doing, and just ask that they work quietly and stay on task. If they have a worksheet to do I tell them they can listen to music with headphones as long as I can't hear it and they're on task. That usually helps keep the talking to a minimum. But honestly... if they're not working but they're not being disruptive, I don't really worry about it.
    I get lots of internet and reading time in subbing secondary. :whistle:
     
  8. TNSub

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    I Sub in TN as well and I don't what it is, but some of the schools here are a mess.

    My personal method is to walk around with a Discipline Referral, scribble malarky on it while giving certain students strong looks, and that tends to calm everything down.

    But in one of the schools I mainly Sub at, a teacher has already let me know that I don't even have to tell the students I've written them up, and I make sure I tell my students that if they argue.

    If they're just not calming down, I'll make sure that I have the student's name for sure, fill out one of the forms for real, and walk over to the student and warn them personally that if they act up just one more time, I'm calling the principal to escort them out of the room.

    If you go through all that and nothing's getting better, simply call the office and ask for an "administrator or teacher". They may not even bother the principal. They may send another teacher for all who cares, but that person will take care of the problem regardless.

    Sometimes it happens. Try your best not to make it an everyday thing, but if you Sub at one school a lot, then the first time you do it may help it be the last. Word will get around quick!
     
  9. Haywood Giles

    Haywood Giles Rookie

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    I bounced one student my first day subbing in HS. I haven't had to do it since. But yeah, if they're being defiant to me and disruptive to other students, they got to go.
     
  10. RussianBlueMommy

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    I love subbing HS. I have never had an office referral, as our district has specific protocol before referring to the office..

    But the main thing is, treat them as an adult. They want to be treated and respected as adults, not as children. I give them their assignment for the day (after taking roll) and then chill in the teacher's chair and just watch... help if I can. Our school does A/B days- so classes are an hour and half. UGHHH
     

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