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  1. MaleTeacher

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    Hi everyone, I am going through a tough time and am not sure what my next steps should be. On Friday I was put on administrative leave. That day in the afternoon my principal sent another teacher to sit with me in my room. The excuse was that the students had some problems during recess and he needed to talk with them. Then one by one they would go down to his office. After everyone got questioned, the other teacher left the room and the kids started telling me what was going on. It seems that my principal asked every child a variation of three questions.
    1. Do you know that it is wrong to lie, and that you need to be truthful.
    2. Did Mr. M tell you what to say, or are you trying to protect him.
    3. Did Mr. M hit a student last week during reading.
    I was shocked and angry. That student already admitted that he made it up, and he was transferred to a different class. Yet the principal still won't let it go. He believes that I must have done something to him.

    Anyway, I lost my temper and said that "because of one brat I am now getting in trouble". The school manager heard me and I got called down to the office during dismissal.
    Since I already knew what was going on, I waited for my building union representative. At the meeting he and the school manager made several claims. They included:
    -that one girl said I told her not to tell the truth.
    -that I called him a "fuc*ing as*hole".
    -that I intimidated the kids before questioning the first time.
    -that I was telling parents to transfer their kids to different schools in the district.
    -that he believes I might not have hit him, but that he believes I touched him in some way.

    At that point I was told that he is emailing human capital labor relations, and will be asking for my termination or for me to be re-assigned to a different school. The building union representative told me to not make any comments, and the meeting ended. When she was gone both of them came up to my room and told me that I am being put on administrative leave.
    What do I do at this point? They told me that I am on administrative leave, but did not put it in writing. I never had this kind of problem before, and I think this is because he overheard me talking with my coworker and we were voicing our anger about the NWEA tests and how admin forced us to help the kids cheat on them (I had to leave the multiplication strategies on the walls, give students multiplication charts, and give some students calculators), and she was made to complete the student's tests when the kid were out of the room. Now all of this is happening, and even though I am innocent (I never hit or touched that boy), it is making me stressed and worried. I am just hoping that my union reps will be tough and really stick up for me and not fold when we have to go to the human capital office on Tuesday.
     
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    What a difficult situation. I do understand that most schools automatically put teachers on administrative leave if they have been accused of something, while it is being investigated. I think that is what was initially happening, and it was probably a district requirement that it happen. I don't think it was an example of your principal "refusing to let it go."

    I think where it all snow-balled is when you publically made a comment referring to a student who made an accusation as a "brat." You already know that was not smart. Calling your union rep was a good thing to do.

    All you can do is wait and see what happens. All the information about the admin having you let students "cheat on the test" is really irrelevant at this point. An accusation of abuse was made, the school followed their proper protocol during the investigation (which is probably still on-going) and until that is resolved, you will remain on admin leave. You added fuel to the fire by making that public comment about the accusor -- which was highly inappropriate.

    I wish you the best, truly I do, but I can't say I fault your admin for the administrative leave. It is the logical thing to do. If their findings are that nothing happened, then the teacher on administrative leave would be returned to the classroom. I think your comment about the accuser has sealed your fate in regards to returning to a classroom in this school.
     
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    Thanks for your reply. I know that I should not have called him a brat, that is something that was stupid on my part. I knew better, and should have never said that. The problem is that the boy accused me of hitting him last week (not this week) on Tuesday. That same day they talked with all the kids and later that day he admitted to lying. I even got his written apology note. I was not sent home, and continued teaching all of last week and all of this week until Friday afternoon. The school removed him from my classroom that same day, so I haven't had contact with him for 8 school days.
    I voiced my concerns about the testing this Thursday during our PD, and now this happened. I think that he might be trying to cover it up and just wants me out of the school. I will happily transfer to a different school in the district. I am just worried about losing my job or being put on several weeks of administrative leave without pay if the district sides with him.
     
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    Hold on to that note with both hands! Scan it and keep that file at home, and keep the original in a safe place. It will help support your case.

    All I can say is that it appears that now the principal thinks that some of the kids were co-erced by you before they talked to the principal the first time. It is important to think back on exactly what you may or may not have said to them before they spoke to the principal that first time, and anything you may have said to anyone regarding the situation since then -- and document all of it.

    Hate to say it, but I think, in addition to your union rep, you probably need to get a legal representative (some unions will help you locate such a person, sometimes you are on your own.) There is more going on here than you are being told, and you need someone with legal expertise to assist you.
     
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    Ok, I have that note with me. I'll make copies of it. Less than 3 minutes after that situation happened with the boy I got the union and academic coach involved, and I already made copies and sent the original emails to my personal email were they confirm (since I was sending emails asking for updates) that the boy admitted to lying, that the principal called his parents, and that he was getting moved out of my room. Our union does have a lawyer for the teachers, so I will ask about that.
     
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    I'm sorry. There really is no "The problem is" when it comes to hurling insults about a student. It was wrong. Period. There is no justification for your actions.
     
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    I agree 100% with this.

    Who got him to write the note? Is it possible that the situation could have been seen as coercion on the part of staff to get the boy to say he lied? We had problems in our district with the interrogation of students being so strong that they admitted to things that never happened. If it could be viewed that way, it may be the reason you are seeing this crop up again.
     
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    OP called the student a brat. Parents say that about their children all the time. How do I know? I hear them say it constantly to them. Even though, I do not condone calling students names, brat is one of those words like saying someone is irritating or annoying. It is mostly innocuous.
     
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    The principal was interrogating him, with my building union rep as a witness. He admitted that he lied after the principal talked with other kids from my classroom. The principal decided to transfer him to a different classroom. The union rep had the principal call his parents, and got the boy to write the apology note.
     
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    I am seeing this differently than most, I think. I think your P has it out for you. Once the boy admitted lying in front of admin and writing an apology note, that should have been the end of it. The kid was no longer even in your class.
    When he heard you complaining w/ someone about the test cheating, seems to be when his hackles got up. All of you could lose your licenses for that. The P would be a gonner if the state investigated. Teachers who did it could be too.
    Are your union reps having a fit about that part? It would be in the P's best interest to get you to transfer because you'd probably be forced to be quiet about what happened to keep a job in the district. If you have other teachers who will back you, I'd blow the whistle on the P.
     
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    I did not tell my union about the test cheating, should I do it? Even though I was pressured into it (it shows on camera underneath my door that the principal came into my room on the testing day during the testing session to make sure I left stuff up), I am worried that it might make my case look worse in the eyes of the district. This is a charter school, but I am a district employee. I don't want them to get upset with me for doing this. The other teacher (we are friends and she told this to me so its not a rumor) who was complaining with me is already having problems with him now. Suddenly her paperwork, lesson plans, and IEP goals are incorrect.
     
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    You should tell your union because you were pressured from your superior to break the law. You could lose your license and livelihood! I would not mess around this and hope everything works out.
     
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    Ok, I will do that. Now I am so happy that the kids were taking the nwea reading and math tests on their laptops instead of pencil/paper. It will show in the system that he came into the room while they were in the middle of testing. I think that after he or someone overhead me and my coworker complaining about this, that he wants us out.
     
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    I wish I knew what to tell you to do. If I could prove an a-- of a P cheated, I'd turn them in...I may sound like a B, but if I was going down because of him, I'd bring him down with me.
    The problem is you could be caught up in it since you went along w/ it.
    It makes sense that he is now turning his unpleasantness towards the teacher who you were talking with about it. She needs to quickly get moving w/ a plan or else he will get her after you.
    Maybe if both of you brought the issue to the union, they could tell you what is in your best interests. Don't use your school rep, go to the top of the food chain. Yeah, I think the union could tell you whether or not, you might both be safe if you blew the whistle on him. I am in my own little corner of the world where if anyone encouraged cheating on those tests, word would be out to the community and state asap. The P would be gone for sure.
     
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    I am writing an email to the union area rep right now. I went above my building rep, and am including all the details. There is hard evidence (school ends at 2:30 for the kids), yet on the math nwea test a kid magically finished 8 questions at 3:15 pm. That boy went home right at 2:30, so the principal might argue that it was a "ghost", but it was actually my coworker being made to do it by the school admin.
    I know that I am innocent of what he put me on administrative leave for, and if he is trying to force my termination or re-assignment in the district, than I want him to fall of his pedestal also. I know that life is not fair and that I need to get used to it, but I don't want to let him get away with inflating the schools test scores and than eliminating the teachers that complain about it.
     
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    I am glad that you documented everything and were so thorough. Very smart!
     
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    I've seen so many teachers and employees get targeted because they knew illegal things were going on and had documentation on administration. I've seen district administrators get site administrators to target certain teachers and everyone was aware of what was going on. But it caught up with those clowns and the board sent them on their way.
     
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    I hated doing it because it went against my ethics, but felt pressured since he is my supervisor. At that time I was worried that if I didn't do what he said, than he could easily punish me by giving me low marks on my evaluations. Thanks for calling me smart. I sure don't feel like it when I look at this whole mess.
     
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    OMGoodness! I'd say you got him. School ends at 2:30 and the test was finished at 3:15? Cameras showing P entering during testing? At least 1 other teacher collaborating he pressured teachers to cheat? Other teachers should back that up too in a safe place when questioned. They will be questioned from what I have seen. Some are too scared to come forward, but will tell the truth if questioned. I see it like you, he is trying to bring you down for calling him on his cheating! He needs to go!
     
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    I have seen the same over the years, but when the state gets involved, heads roll! :)
    Especially if it somehow gets leaked to the press! lol
     
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    What would happen to the teachers that were targeted? Did they lose their jobs (or forced to resign) or were they reassigned or what? I am just worried about what it going to happen to me. How long did it take for the state to get involved?
     
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    The teachers were the ones who told. They said the P was entering their rooms, encouraging them to change answers, and finished off a bunch of undone tests in the office after school. It was during paper/pencil testing days. The state was on the school like white on rice! Nothing happened to the teachers. The P was out of there within a month. Maybe 2.
     
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    Stand tall and have faith, don't be bullied by a person with no ethics. I agree with what people have written above and the first step that I would take is to make sure I am taking care of myself, emotionally and spiritually - and protecting yourself with documentation. Where I am, the union is nonresponsive. I did speak to the state head but the local people have never returned my contacts. Protect yourself and your professional reputation first, and be very guarded and careful.

    Glad you posted here, it makes me feel better about my situation if you had been reading about that. I have felt alone, but - I know I am not. You will get through this too - don't sacrifice your integrity, do what you are asked as acknowledging your respect for authority. But document carefully.
     
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    Some teachers resigned, some were reassigned to different schools, some were let go so that "buddies" could get the job.
     
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    Yes, I did read about your situation. I replied to your post. I am sad that you were fired because the principal was unhappy with you holding on to your integrity, and refusing to give "study guides" to the students during tests. He put me on administrative leave, but cannot fire me since my contract is with the district. Now I have to hope that the union backs me up when I have to meet with the district. I would be distraught if I lost my job halfway through the year.
     
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    The state visited one of our schools last year because there were accusations of cheating. The school was high performing and got continuous praise but ended up falling hard "coincidently" after the state auditors monitored testing at the school. Now the principal has the bullseye from the district. Fail again and that'll be all she wrote. :whistle:
     
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    I am hoping to get reassigned. I know that I cannot go back to my school, and I hope the district takes into account my proof and evidence (I never did what he is accusing me off) and give me another chance.
     
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    So the principal was not fired? I hope she/he did not punish the teachers for the students decrease in performance. If they fail again this year is the district going to change administration? I know that if the state tests the kids again in my school that their performance will decline. For some reason your post is making me feel happy. Now I know that this is not just happening to me, and that sooner or later those in charge of the cheating will get what they deserve.
     
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    I worked under a principal who flat out told us in meetings that we can't have people going to the state department messing up the process. He was following instructions by a former district administrator to basically tell the staff "keep your mouth shut".

    Yes, everyone here knows what the "process" is.

    Well, he and the former district administrator are both gone. He was let go first because he found out the the district administrator wasn't loyal to him as he was to the administrator.
     
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    Not enough hard evidence but if the schools fails this year the principal is toast.
     
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    As a matter of fact, our entire district will have auditors visiting during testing this year. The theme this year is that if you get caught, you're on your own, no one is defending anyone else.
     
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    I think teachers should be required to take a class in college on how not to become a victim/ what to do if they are targeted before tenure. I taught for many years before I ever had a P try to bully me. I was fortunate to work many yrs with good staff and admin. I put up with it longer than I should have ( months), but had never experienced that kind of harassment. It took me awhile to realize what he was doing.
    I was fortunate enough to have had enough confidence, tenure, union backing, to stand up to him. He backed off real quickly after I emailed him a letter that would be sent to district office if things did not change immediately. Teachers must stand up for themselves and others. I hate it when teachers w/out tenure get mistreated. That is when tenured folks need to circle the wagons.
     
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    MaleTeacher,
    My, this conversation has take quite a turn. I feel really bad for you being in this position. Here are a couple of things I'd like say.

    First, if this was some kind of state testing, did you sign for it? I remember when we did state testing, we had to sign the code of ethics. It clearly stated that if testing regularities occurred, we were honor-bound to report them, it gave us the name and number of who to report it to, and reminded us that we would lose our teaching certification if we did not report irregularities immediately. If you signed such a paper, get a copy of it quick, because it has the contact information you need.

    Second, if you contact your union via email telling them what happened, make absolutely sure you use your personal email address, not your school address -- because anything written on a public school email can be requested via the freedom of information act. In some states, like Florida, even a parent can request a copy of every email their teacher sends to anyone via the public school email, and it has to be provided to them. Be forewarned. And as your school district, they have the ultimate right to look at anything you have emailed. Don't give away your game plan or your details that way. Do it on your own terms.

    Last, you need to get yourself someone who is "on your side" in all this. At the very least, a counselor or therapist -- because this may get very ugly very fast, and you need someone with your best interests at heart who can listen to you and advise you. If you can't afford this, most public schools have an EAP (employees assistance program). You contact them directly (you get the phone number from HR), and they authorize visits with a counselor at THEIR expense. The (your supervisor and district) also have no access to the information from the sessions unless they are the ones who specifically sent you, and even then the information is very limited. You usually get up to 5 free sessions per problem, so when the 5 are over, change to a different problem, and you can continue. Being on administrative leave is instant access to these services. Don't try to go this alone.

    If you actually cheated or allowed cheating on a test, even if bullied by your principal, and you didn't immediately report it directly to the testing or district authorities, you could very easily be caught up in the fallout. It isn't fair, but this is often how it plays out. Please, steel yourself for this possibility.

    If the worst should happen, and you lose your job over this, please don't let it end there. Keep your documentation. Hire a lawyer. Pursue a wrongful termination suit. Go after the principal (if he is still employed,) and the school system itself (who didn't make sure the proper protocols were being followed.) In the worst case scenario, you could be let go "with cause of wrongdoing" which means you wouldn't be eligible for unemployment, you could lose your teaching license, and you could find yourself without even a usable recommendation letter to get a job outside of education.

    Get a counselor. Have that person help you stay strong through all of this. It is fine to ask the union to help, but remember, those union reps are mostly district employees too. As much as I hate to say this, you can't always trust your union reps either -- especially not your building reps. Get a lawyer of your own. Document everything and keep it at home.

    I hope this all turns out for the best -- really I do.
     
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    The principal is actually going into classrooms doing observations this year. That wasn't the case last year when the school was seen as being on autopilot. Just spent most of the day gossipping about employees and central office staff. All of that changed when the school hit rock bottom. Now the school is back to "putting students first".

    Lol
     
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    Hi MaleTeacher, I thought you did reply but I have been feeling distracted and not myself and wasn't 100% sure you had replied. : /

    It's alot to think about, and your situation is ridiculously weird. In my school the administration would side with the worst, most disruptive kids and I would be scolded for mispronouncing their name (under great stress) and other incredibly minor things. What you are describing is really awful and it sets up the kids to have no choice, and to be traumatized themselves by the actions of the school head. It's very hurtful to the kids, and disrepectful to you as an adult and a professional. I am encouraged to think that these admins could be held accountable, I have felt a deep depression even over the thought of this being a new 'normal.'
     
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    Hello, thank you for all the information. I never signed any papers when giving the test. I was not given any phone numbers or contact information for reporting. I tried to look for it on the district website but did not find anything. I emailed my area union representative about this, and I used my personal email. I don't use my district email for anything other than to check for school updates or other school related information. I do see a counselor once a month, that is just part of my self-care that I do. He was the one that recommended for me to talk with someone that I trust, and that's when I started talking with my coworker and dad about it.

    Thanks for being so open about what might happen. I hope that the district has some leniency on me. I let other factors (principal's pressure, my concern over evaluation scores, me not being tenured) to cloud my judgement. Well I am now going to have to face the outcome. Hopefully it won't be too bad. Re-assignment is my best hope.
     
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    This is really good news, because if they didn't provide this information, or make it accessible in your faculty or district handbook, then they set up the scenario where the only place you had to turn was your administrator, and obviously, you couldn't report the issue to him, since he WAS the issue. It does relieve you of so much of the responsibility for being a "whistleblower" in legal terms.

    I'm glad to hear you have a support system. Hang in there!
     
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    I can relate to it taking time to realize what's going on when dealing with a sophisticated bully. I like the idea of a required college class on what to do if you become a target. It makes all the difference if you can get backing from others involved. In the bully situation I was in as a student teacher, I was able to get somewhere when a teacher noticed the mistreatment I was dealing with from my college supervisor and spoke out about it. I'm eternally grateful that she spoke out on my behalf and will never forget so I do the same for others.

    It sounds like the OP is on the ball with having documentation. All you can do is try to be smart about the moves you make and stand up for yourself and provide supporting evidence to support your position.
     
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