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  1. DrivingPigeon

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    I just saw that I have 25 students in my class next year-my largest class ever.

    I'm just thinking about how annoying this number is, and how much money it's going to cost me. Most things come in 12's: the book bins that I use (I'll have to buy 12 more to get one more, and my shelf only has room for 24), my behavior pocket chart, pencils and other little goodies and prizes, the trophies I order for star student...I only have 24 coat hooks outside my classroom.

    It's all little things, but my head is spinning! :dizzy:
     
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  3. live

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    I had a fluctuating 26 students this year. The "everything comes in 12s" thing really got me. I'd end up with 10 extra of everything because I'd have to buy that extra pack. I only had 25 lockers and 25 mailboxes this year. Had to order extra books too.

    It doesn't seem like a big deal, until you have either a surplus or shortage of every little thing. I feel ya!
     
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    Oh, that is :down:! I had 13 students two years in a row, same experience. Any chance you can share things you order with another teacher?
     
  5. DrivingPigeon

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    Oh, boy, I forgot about mailbox slots. :(

    I was hoping this day would never come. :lol:
     
  6. DizneeTeachR

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    I know I had the same thing but wasn't until like 2 months before school ended...so we "made due."

    It is a bummer because you can't have nice groups of 4....
     
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    I have cubbies, etc. for 24, and had 27 this year. I got metal locker shelves on sale and put them on a counter near the cubbies with dollar store tubs. You can spray paint them to match if it bothers you. You can use Command hooks for coat hooks. Have you seen taping cereal or other boxes together for mail slots and then spray painting them? Seems like an inexpensive alternative.

    Although I had to buy that extra 12 sometimes, with all the leaving and moving in that happens through the year, I used a lot of them.

    I know, I agree it is a pain, but it is workable. If you are like us, it is a long summer and who knows how many you will really end up with this year.

    Good luck!
     
  8. YoungTeacherGuy

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    Driving Pigeon, I know how well-organized you are (I remember drooling over the pictures of your classroom last year).

    Is there much movement over the summer at your site? We have many kids move away (and a high number who move to our area) over vacation.

    A couple of years ago, I started the year with 27 kiddos! Yikes! Thankfully, the district "overflowed" the extra 3 students to another site that had room.
     
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    Right now, I have 24 on my list for next year. Here's how confident I am in that number staying as it is--I ordered 33 of everything!
     
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    I think my first year I had 25 (the least I've ever had) and I remember being frustrated by the same thing!
     
  11. DrivingPigeon

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    I heard that one child is most likely moving. The other 2nd grade classes have 22, 22, and 24, so hopefully I will go down and stay there. Fingers crossed! We usually get a few additions over the summer.
     
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    25 would be great! My school has 30+ in every grade!

    I get you about supplies, though. It sucks to only need one more of something.
     
  13. yellowdaisies

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    I experienced this when I bought capri suns for my class of 21 - 3 boxes of 10. :p

    And then 2 kids were absent that day...of course.

    I'll have 28 next year, which I like because it's an even number and it's divisible by 4. I hate having an odd number - so awkward to me.
     
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    If a few of the other classes have only 22, maybe you could work something out with one of those teachers? Since they'll likely have two extra of everything that comes in 12 counts? I mean, obviously that wouldn't work with everything, but maybe for some of the basics that you both have?
     
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    Which is why I stopped using the mail boxes to send work home. I have hanging file folders and the kids file their own work. We empty them once a week. It's easier to change the name tabs too.
     
  16. giraffe326

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    During my five years in 5th, I had 23 three times. 23 is a prime number and frustrated me to no end. I'd take 25 over 23 any day- even if I had to buy more stuff!
     
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    Ugh, I know your pain. I really wish you could buy cupcakes and small bags of chips in bulk AND individuals because I always end up having to buy an extra bulk set, which means there's a lot left over (but not enough for each student to have 2 of the treat).

    The supermarkets here used to sell potato chips in small, 25cent bags. Now you can only get those small bags in a bulk bag of 20. So I end up with 40 chips. Sure it makes the custodians and all the teachers on my floor who I give the extras away to happy, but not my wallet. :mad:
     
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    I'd love to have 25. As of this second, I have 24 next year, but they usually add 6 per class over the summer, so I'm looking at about 30.
     
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    I would love to have 25 kids! Last year my class fluctuated between 32 and 36 kids. Our district cap for 4th-6th grade is 41. The minimum we can have is 28 before a teacher is moved to a different assignment.
     
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    I'll have 25 also, so I definitely understand!
     
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    I know the increase will come as a shock, but 25 is the norm around here.
     
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    That is always so frustrating! I remember telling a principal that many items are sold in packs of 12, so therefore there shouldn't be more then 24 students in a room. :D Budget won out, we needed 25 to make the budget.
     
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    Wow! That is a huge number for 2nd grade. What do the numbers look like for the other 2nd grade classroom??

    side note: We don´t get our numbers until August!
     
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    Yep, really annoying. Can you join with another teacher to buy together? Hope your Dollar Tree has goodies you can use so you can save a bit there.
     
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    Here you have 30-32 in every classroom, regardless of grade level. Yes, even K. And with no para. It has been like that since I went to school. According to my yearbooks, 29 was the smallest elementary class I was ever in.


    I teach in a more rural area. The district only has 700 kids. So we have smaller class sizes sometimes. I think I'll have 23 or 24 next year.
     
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    That should be illegal. Our numbers cap at 23, and we do get TAs 4 days a week.
     
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    North Carolina used to cap. K-3 was 24 and 4-5 was 29. The 4-5 cap went away a few years ago. It never happened, but we could have had 1 section for 4th and 5th and there would be no legal issues. Heck, they could have made a 4-5 combo with 150 kids in it. Now K-3 doesn't have a cap, either.

    I'm not sure if districts or the state cap here in Michigan. I've never seen more than 32 for the most part. I interned in a big, urban district in college. They capped K-3 at 16 and there was no cap for 4-12. At the particular school I was at, they had three third grade teachers and only one fourth grade teacher. There were about 45 kids in that one class. It was totally out of control. I know the K-3 cap was lifted a long time ago.
     
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    That´s just outrageous, not to mention the impact it must have on student learning.
     
  29. gr3teacher

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    But Bill Gates says class sizes don't impact learning!!!

    I hate that man so much.

    My district caps at 32, so I'm hoping that somehow, someway, we either drop 7 kids, or add 25. From past experience though, we'll add about 20. That would be 3 classes of 30. They'd probably give us an IA for a half hour a day or so, but that wouldn't really help much.
     
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    25 can be annoying number for buying things, that's for sure! I had 25 this year, but it was my smallest number ever, so I was used to buying for 24+ anyway, and I preferred the uneven number to the 28 students I started the school year with. I have no idea how many I'll next year yet. I'm looping, a bunch are moving away but I already know of at least 2 kids being moved into my class.
     
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    California is the same way. It's usually 30+ in K-3 and 33+ in 4-6. No paras ever. My classes were high 20s to 30 when I was in school, and I lived in a rural area.

    I work at charters, so CA's insane class sizes have never directly affected me (well, since student teaching). I have 21 this year and I'll have 28 in fifth grade, which seems just fine to me. My current school is raising their K-2 class sizes to 24, which is still fine to me.
     
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    I just saw this - I LOVE that idea!!! Takes up so much less space, and so much cheaper too!
     
  33. giraffe326

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    I use hanging files, too. It is also mobile. I've actually gotten in the habit of filing as I grade. Of course, I've been in K-2 lately, so I don't have to record.
     
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    I REALLY like the idea of them being mobile!
     
  35. giraffe326

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    I even have a hanging file container that closes and has a handle. If I have a large class, I have to use a crate. But last year I had 18 (and lost some) and this year I had 20. Works perfect.
     
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    I have 26 this year, and I totally agree about the supplies. Last week I was at the store doing my weekly grocery shopping and I almost picked up some ice cream trays for an end of the year treat. But alas the ones I wanted came in packs of 12 and I just didn't want to deal with 10 extras. And I feel bad for the parents when they send in cupcakes and have to get extras. Though I suppose I should be glad my school actually allows cupcakes on birthdays :).

    Seating is a bit awkward too, I had two rows of 6 and two rows of 7.

    But at least we weren't as big as some of our other grades, the third grade classes had 29 and not only is that a hard number to work with as far as grouping, that's a whole lot of third graders!
     

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