2 questions regarding Home-Schooling (inspired by the Duggars)

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  1. McKennaL

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    Thinking about the Duggars... and that she home-schools all 18 (now +). I have two friends who do so/have done so also. I'm not saying it's the case with all home-schoolers...but my 2 friends have done a very poor job of it. As their kids aged...they didn't want to continue schooling and now-really aren't doing much more than menial labor (again, that's just THEIR results-but watching it over the years..it wasn't surprising).

    But hearing about home-schooling again...I wonder:


    (1) Could you home-school?

    (2) Would you home-school?
     
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  3. McKennaL

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    (1) Could I?

    If push came to shove, I could....but i get too distracted to hold my child's EVERYTHING in my hands. I would be afraid that I wasn't doing a good enough job....and as I mentioned, I have watched my 2friends doing it REALLY poorly for years...and THAT is scarey!

    (2) Would I?

    No. I don't even want to TEACH my own kids in school. I like that that is THERE and I am with them here. I think it's good for EVERYONE.

    Secondly... I like the interactions of a school. Though sometimes it's challenging and sometimes it can even be heart-breaking and upsetting... I think it builds critical thinkers and problem-solvers.

    As a former band director, i used to be amazed by guest conductor sessions. A clinician would come and work with your band for a day...and the kids would hang on their EVERY word. It could just be the director from the next district (and he/she could be telling them the exact same things you say everyday)...but it was hearing it from a different person that made all the difference (and would make ME want to bang my head into the wall).

    I just think that specialists could do a better job of teaching my child what I could only do so-so on. I like the throwing IN wisdom into their lives. I prefer to be their mom.
     
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    I think that home schooling would be like any other profession, those who work and take it seriously and those that don't. I have one friend that home schooled her three children and was very successful at it, she also made sure they participated in activities in the community for a social education. It is hard for me to answer you questions though, since I don't have any children..but I could guess.
    1. Could I home school? I am sure I could and probably would do a good job at it.
    2. Would I home school? It would depend on the schools nearby, the atmosphere at each school, and also my financial situation at the time.

    I can see pros and cons on each side.
     
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    I'm having a very good time 'homeschooling' my student, but I think it would be very difficult with my own child. Here, I'm out of my natural element and not distracted by my home, chores, business, etc. It's just her, plus her parents are here all day, so I'm held accountable to them constantly.

    I admire Becky on here immensely, because I can see how you would struggle with motivating your child. My student is still in the honeymoon phase and would do anything for me, but I'm sure that will end around October and I'll be struggling to get the work out of her. When you've been with your child for the entire 10 years of her life, it would be hard to keep it fresh!
     
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    Could I, yes, but I don't want to. I am having a dreadful day with my grandson. He wants to be in charge. Right now he is hiding behind the sofa--yelling demands at me. I will win this battle, because I don't want to lose the war.

    I think the answer depends upon the situation. Today I would say no.
     
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    Could I, yes.
    Would I, no. Unless our circumstances were to suddenly change drastically, it would definitely not be the best situation for myself and my children. (When my son was younger, it may have worked with him, if would never have been a peaceful situation with my daughter).
     
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    Could I? Yes- in addition to my 'regular' public school professional teaching job, I tutor up to about 7 hours per week. If I can do it for other people's kids, I could do it for my own.

    Would I? Only if I had to- if my child had a health issue that precluded going to school, if my child's needs weren't being met. I have a VERY good friend who HS'd her son from grade 4-high school. She did an amazing job- sought outside help from HS groups and junior colleges when the material got complex. She chose to do this because of her child's ADHD, and because of her moral/religious concerns about some things taught in public school (she might have gone the Catholic school route except for the cost). She also has a child with severe disabilities who is home much of the time. The HS'd son is a bright, intelligent and empathetic young man. He cares for his sister and family in ways that most kids of his age don't have the depth for...yet I think he and his mom would say that he is somewhat sheltered and socially inept (despite HS social groups, junior college courses, etc)...whether that is part of his personality or a consequence of his ADHD or of his HSing, who knows... It's a choice my friend made because of both her kids' needs, it worked for them. Everyone's choices are personal. I support anyone's decision to HS. I just think that anything you undertake should be done well.
     
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    Could I--yes I feel qualified to homeschool my own children.

    Would I--only if I could not afford to send them to private school. There is not a single public school in my area that I would send my children to.
     
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    If I had my own child, I would DEFINITELY either home school, or look into home studies, which is what I was in when I was in school.

    There would be NO WAY that my child would attend public school. (not the teachers, but it's the students I'd be worried about, plus, at the moment there is TOO Much emphasis on testing and teaching to to the test...)
     
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    could I- probably
    Would I- NO school is not just the academics but the social part, getting along with others and the rules of society
    Some people are fantastic at home schooling and some just suck
     
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    Here in lies one reason why one of my friends failed in homeschooling.

    LIFE got in her way. I KNOW she meant well...but she also owned a number of properties and then... well, we aren't schooling this morning-we are running errands. We aren't schooling this afternoon - grandma needed to go to the doctor. Soon schooling was on the back burner TOO often.

    Secondly the child didn't WANT to do the work when given it... and due dates? Eh! You always could get mom to give in...or she would have an errand to run.

    I was there one day... helping her paint her kitchen...I can't remember why i was doing it...i THINK she had hurt herself and couldn't move in ways it took to get the job done...but here I was and her son was suppose to be working on a report that was due weeks before...but life and mom's not holding his nose to the grindstone got in the way. She'd say, "Can you tell him he has to work?" And he'd grin.

    Someone mentioned socializing, and i agree... one child of the other woman was talking to me the other day. Her son "graduated" high school (home-school high school). College? No. he's not interested. Job? No..can't find anything he likes...he wants to find a job where he doesn't have to be by or work with too many people... huh, wonder why.

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    Now...as I say,... I have heard of kids who do EXCEPTIONALLY well with home schooling... but it's nothing I have seen IN my world, or feel that *I* could produce at home.
     
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    I think I could to an extent. I was good at math in high school but there is no way I could teach my child advanced calculus or something like that. My DBF could do science, I could cover language, English, we could probably both do social studies.

    I used to be sort of anti-homeschooling, but I think it depends on the location and what kind of network you have with other homeschoolers and parents. Where I used to live, I think I could be successful homeschooling and it would be so much fun. There are so many programs that kids can do if they are homeschooled that you could incorporate into their program. And if there are others involved, the kid can still be social, and you can share resources, especially when you get into more advanced classes.

    Financially, I don't think I will ever be able to do it, but I think it could be a lot of fun. One thing i really dislike about high school is all the structure. I know that it has to be there or some of these kids would go nuts, but things like asking to go to the bathroom or not being able to have a snack or drink when you want really diminishes students' personal responsibility.
     
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    I could. I watched my step-mom homeschool her children. To what degree of success??? Of her 4 children (all home schooled through 8th grade, and then into public school for HS) one was valedictorian, one did fine and the two others all barely graduated. The one who graduated with honors has her Master's now, and the two of the others are doing labor/service jobs. One went to the Fire Academy, is really smart and now a Lieutenant.

    She was very organized and watching her tells me I could probably homeschool SHOULD I NEED TO. But I think it's too important for kids to experience school. I would only do it if my child has serious social issues and was in danger at school or something like that.

    I am not part of any religious community and it seems like that is the bulk of homeschoolers. The other side, at least around here, are the ultra-progressive "unschoolers" who basically do NO SCHOOL and let their children learn by living or something like that. I am a moderate, and could see doing a lot of outside activities and things, but not actually UNSCHOOLING. I don't think I would fit into the homeschool community.
     
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    No way in heck....unless there were some really, REALLY good circumstances....

    The new school I am at part time is for homeschooled kids that want a HS diploma...so they go to classes 2-3 times per week for a few hours. Many of them remind me of past students I have had. I asked the reasons...and the answer for most was due to the influences at their schools. Well...the parent can only protect them for so long.
     
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    Could I ? Yes, I could

    Would I? Yes, I actually homeschooled both of my children for 3 years (daughter 4th - 6th, son 3rd - 5th). I homeschooled because daughter received a death threat in 3rd grade and the school did not do much to make me feel she would be safe in their care. They went back in 6th and 7th grade because we moved and I was trying to find a home school charter school in our new town. If I had to do it all over again I would in a heart beat. THe activities that the kids got to do was so awesome compared to that of their friends. They got to learn how to play guitar from a Doobie Bros., Played Golf with Clint Eastwood, Saw Tiger Woods throw a temper tantrum and told him he was not being a good sportsman. As for the social aspect; they competed in artistic roller skating, went to church youth group, were in scouts and had many friends in our homeschool group.

    My kids are now a junior and a senior in high school. Both take AP classes and do well, my daughter just was informed that she made high honors for last semesters honor roll and she will more than likely graduate Magna Cum Laude. My son also made honor roll and as a junior has colleges already recruiting him from his test scores.
     
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    1) Yes, I would have loved to

    2) No, it wasn't necessary at the time when my kids were at home. Most home school for religious reasons or poor public school systems. But, I sure would do it before I put my kids in a situation where my morals and my kids were going to be sacrificed.
     
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    Hold everything!
    Hey,Jem! If the parents are there, that's not homeschooling, that's you teaching. I read that Will Smith brings in tutors for his kids and calls it homeschooling.

    I had to laugh at your 'Honeymoon Phase' comment. I have two pictures here, one of the first day of second grade, and one on our 100th day. In the first picture, Jeannie's hair is fixed, she's sitting up straight, and smiling. In the second picture, she's in pajamas, her hair is scribbly from sleeping, and I had to hound her out of the bathroom- where she disappeared to- to get the picture taken.

    So, yeah, the thrill definitely goes away!
     
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    Sigh. Here goes my size 81/2 W right in my mouth.
    All that back burner stuff is why I don't socialize with the moms at Jeannie's classes. I've heard some wild stuff-
    I've got to Christmas shop
    Dad came home early/took the day off and wants the tv
    the mom has two jobs that take priority
    mom's pmsing
    there's a baby involved

    These are the same moms that won'tlet their kid take part in testing, like Jeannie did, because they don't want the child 'grilled', 'traumatized', or 'quizzed'.
    These same moms don't take their kids along to evaluations for the same reasons.

    Honestly, it pisses me off for a lot of reasons.
    First, do you really want your kid to be behind? Don't you care??
    Those test results could help you see what you might do differently.

    Second, I guess it's jealousy. I'm here pulling teeth and some mom is out Christmas shopping?? I threatened to give all money last year, cause I just didn't have time to get into the stores. Big deal.
    So, I just stay to myself. Then, when the mom says "I don't know how we got so behind!', I don't have to play stupid.
     
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    With unschooling, you really have to be aware of what you're doing in order for it to work. I wouldn't unschool, personally, but some make it work.
     

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