Discussion in 'Debate & Marathon Threads Archive' started by Caesar753, Jul 28, 2011.
Jul 28, 2011
That is hysterical!
Actually, "Whether" should not be followed with "or not."
I just laughed my butt off reading the posts ... thanks for sharing!!!
Haha those Facebook posts are funny. I like how one person corrected someone's usage with the wrong usage.... Oi!
Just coming off a four day writing institute and being a reflective practitioner....How does all of this help you help kids with spelling?
I think that typos,at least here, aren't a big issue. We type quickly, and it's incredibly easy to mistake "hte" for "the."
But when the same poster repeatedly speaks of the resume sent to the principle , or of loosing weight, or ends every single "s" word with that darn apostrophe, then I think we have a real problem.
I think that part of the problem is that too many of us have become far too comfortable with abbreviations taking the place of formal language. If we can abbreviate any and every word we write, then the lines between 'right" and "wright" become blurred. As creatures of habit, I think too many slip into text-talk or "anything goes as long as a lot of people can figure out what I'm trying to say."
If the teachers can't differentiate between "their" and "they're" then what hope is there for their students????
Alice, you're definitely on to something. I know once in a blue moon I'll type the wrong "your" or do something else silly like that. It's always when I'm in a rush, usually in a text. I'm always horrified and quickly correct! At least I do proofread so I can still catch some mistakes!
Affect/ effect always trips me up. =) I love the one that says, "If you put an A in definitely , then you're definitely an a-hole." :lol:
I make a *big* deal out of formal, informal, and non-standard language in my class. Every time we write something, we discuss what form they should be using and go over what each one entails.
I also tell them that if they can't remember the apostrophe, they aren't ready to use contractions in class.
I'm also thinking student-created content posters for some of these usual suspects in spelling...
I just looked at that link. It's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. I'm not a very good speller, but I usually get most of those right. I struggle with it's and its and affect and effect a little. I think my spelling has gotten much worse since spell check and computers.
Just to share a funny story... Two years ago I wrote a paper for one my classes about predator/prey relationships. I misused the word "elicit" and wrote this sentence instead.
"Their findings did not tell us anything about how tiger sharks might illicit a top-down effect in this community."
My professor made a note in the margin about the sharks illegal behavior. I think he probably got a pretty good laugh over that.
Jul 29, 2011
Top-down can indeed be illicit, as Janet Jackson has reason to know...
Thank you for this help.
I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this one, so maybe it's an Aussie thing. The big spelling issue we have here is:
would of, should of and could of
--- instead of would've, could've and should've
It's the way they say it so that's how they spell it!
I'm a "noo yorka"
In this part of the woods, they're famously "woulda, coulda, shoulda"!!!
But seriously, I agree. I think that there are too many people who think that the phrase IS "would of" instead of "would have"...
I never even try to figure out whether I should use affect or effect. I just go with effect and hope its right.
Some of those on that list bother me, but not all of them.
Why not just decide to learn when to use each one? It's not that hard. Affect is generally a verb, meaning to 'act upon', so you could remember A-act, A- affect.
Is that one even used that often?
Are you serious?
Yes, I thought effect was used more often that affect, thus why I usually take the chance and just put in effect.
Grammar is not my strong point as a teacher.
"A lot" is my biggest pet peeve!!! Ick, ick, ick!!!!!!! It is two words!
Two years ago the chair of my department (at that time a university - so this is someone with a PhD who was an associate professor and is now a full professor) published a flyer. On it, he bragged about how wonderful our department was and how we deserved to be "infamous."
Uh...that word does not mean what you think it means.
Effect is most often used as a noun, as in the movies' special effects or The effect of the tsunami was devastating. It can be used as a verb, however, in which case its meaning is along the lines of 'to bring something into being' - one can effect a change - and the related adjective is effective.
Affect is most often used as a (fairly weak) verb: The chick flick affected both Carol and Bob, though differently. It can also be used as a noun, but it's primarily a technical term of psychology referring to a person's level of animation: high affect is (usually excessively) animated, low affect is (usually excessively) calm.
People who can't keep 'em straight would probably do well to find and use other words.
Really, is it that big of a deal that people shouldn't use them altogether if they can't keep 'em straight?
I read the descriptions you gave for them, but I will probably forget it the next time I actually need it. Doesn't bother me.
That's my standard advice, yes: if one truly can't not mix 'em up, it's prudent to use words that one doesn't mix up.
The difference does matter.
It matters a great deal to most educated people, I would imagine. What is so difficult about remembering that affect is an action and effect is the result?
There are so many things to remember when it comes to grammar, do you really expect people to remember them all. (yes i really this is word defention, but similar idea)
I expect educated people to be able to write like educated people, yes.
Relax, lifes to short to stress about those little things. Its one little word.
And, I intentionally spell the word wierd wrong. I know the right way, but I like my way better.
Your loss, sir.
What loss is that exactly? I just don't expect everyone to know everything, it is okay if they make mistakes (don't know some things).
There's a difference between not knowing and not caring.
Separate names with a comma.