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Old 11-01-2009, 05:18 PM
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You'll get much more respect as a regular teacher.....NOT!

When I was a substitute teacher and complaining about how little respect I got, someone online said, "Oh, you'll get much more respect as a regular teacher." If I saw that person in real life, I would shout out the BS word to him (you know what I mean). I'm now a regular teacher, and I'm still constantly being treated like a SUB. It's very very frustrating, because I'm the permanent teacher and I see them everyday and I'm STILL not getting the respect I should have. One period, I hardly get to teach much because of all the disruptive and disrespectful students. In that period, I'm more like a "security guard" than a teacher. Another period is almost as bad, and they're not learning much either. There's only one period that's actually decent, but even then there are a couple of disrespectful students. I'm awed at how disrespectful students are nowadays. I thought I was supposed to get respect as a regular teacher!!! I'm not a freaking sub anymore!!!!
I seriously want to teach in a private school, where the parents are paying for their kids to be there, so therefore I won't have nearly as many discipline issues and I will be respected (for the most part) and I will actually get to TEACH!!!
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:24 PM
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Respect doesn't come because one has a specific job title. Respect is earned.

How do you manage disruptive students? What is your behavior management plan? You might need to 'tighten up' what you are doing and let the kids know that you're 'in charge'.
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:46 PM
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Parents who pay tuition don't always translate into kids who are respectful. They're two different issues.

I think I get respect not because someone in my kids' homes signs a tuition check, but because the kids see me as a teacher deserving of respect. (Of course, we're ALL deserving of respect, but the kids don't always see it that way.) As Czacza said "Respect is earned."
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:21 PM
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I agree with the Alice and Czacza...respect must be earned. I teach elementary in a pretty upscale area. My students are well behaved and show me a lot of respect, but the students in the room next door are wild and don't listen or respect the teacher or each other. There is no difference in the kids, it's all about behavior management and expectations. I expect my students to act a certain way, whether I'm in the classroom or not, they know what's expected, and they do it.

You do deserve respect, now you just have to prove it to yourself and your students. I know you are a few months into the school year, but it's time to start over and get the respect you want. Work on a behavior management plan that will work for your students, expect excellent behavior, and don't accept anything else. It can get better, but it's up to you. The kids won't change their attititudes if you don't make them.
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:24 PM
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Last year, my tuition paying lowest level kids, who were angelic in my room (OK, not exactly "angelic" but very good) for me, decided to shoot spitballs at their English teacher. I pulled 3 of them aside, told them they were the class leaders, and I wanted them to use those leadership skills and get it to stop!! And it did. Not because they respected their English teacher, but because they respected me.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:35 PM
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Hi Davidfizix!
Welcome and I hope you will get that RESPECT soon!
You need to start showing them you MEAN BUSINESS. It is hard, especially if you don't nib it @ the butt RIGHT AWAY. You have to do some serious disciplining. I feel for you because it sounds like those kids have been getting away with stuff for a very long time. LET THEM KNOW & SHOW THEM THAT YOU ARE THE BOSS!
Good luck,
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:41 PM
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Did these students know you as a sub before? The students who know me as a sub would still treat me like a sub till I laid down the law and held my ground. I think it would be very challenging to become a full time teacher where I'd been subbing.

Most of the classes I sub say, "I wish you were our regular teacher". They would be sad to find out that I'd have a much different management strategy if I was there full time and responsible for their educational outcomes.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:40 AM
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Gonna throw in a plug for Whole Brain Teaching. It works, even in high school!
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:07 AM
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Hang in there! You've definitely come to the right place for advice on Behavior Management (or Behaviour if you're reading from our British or Canadian teachers). There's a whole section on this subject in the annals if you care to look through them. In the meantime, welcome to the forum. I wish I could be more helpful, but my classroom isn't a physical one and my issues are really weird compared to a more traditional setting.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:28 PM
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Sent you a pm David but the box is full,
Good to see you posting again, First year is
the toughest usually and maybe on top of that you have
some classes from Hadees.
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