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Old 01-14-2013, 08:33 PM
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Plenty of student teachers have been through what you've been through. You are a pre-first year teacher, and you can't be expected to have perfect classroom management. Even experienced teachers have problems with classroom management. As long as you're bringing your effort to the game and you get right back up and keep trying you should be fine.

Honestly the teacher that told you you lost his good class is probably someone who is less suited to teaching than you are. (I just don't believe in classifying entire classes as good and bad classes)

I think your problem lies more with the fact that you're teaching social studies and there's a very low demand for social studies teachers, so any position is probably going to go to the most experienced applicant. That means anyone who has more years of teaching than you (which is basically everyone who is not a brand new teacher).

Keep building up that experience subbing and you'll eventually break into it.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:49 PM
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My very first student teaching assingment ended horribly. It went fine until the last few weeks. My master teacher started to get a bit weird. I mean, throughout the whole time there she was odd, and even my university supervisor noticed it. She spoke to me when I had two weeks left and said that all I ever did my whole time there was complain. What????? Uh, no I didn't. She also refused to write me a letter and said that I wasn't good enough to continue on to my next student teaching assingment (we had to do two, one upper grade, one lower grade). My next assignment went MUCH smoother, luckily.

Anyways, that didn't end up hurting me. I had letters from my university supervisor, my second master teacher, and from university professors. Ask around!!!
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:36 AM
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I haven't had my first placement yet, I don't start it until May and I'm already worried about it. Reading everyone's comments reassures me that its not meant to be perfect and without any mistakes, it's a learning experience.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:39 AM
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I know a lot of it is my subject. However, I don't know about the teacher part of it. While I do think he wasn't that great (he was mainly into teaching for coaching, which I can understand), but he wasn't terrible. Kids liked him too, so I at the end of theday i'd say he was effective.

I think a lot of the problem is that I have so much guilt from my mom. She always points out that I didn't do this one substitute teacher program in college (I was lazy and applied late) while one of my best friends did and got a job. She also makes comments how other teachers in my field get jobs because of coaching, and how I didn't prepare as much as other kids. Also part of it is she was an elementary teacher, and is now a reading specialist, and she is very good, and every job she interviewed she got offered (she's been lucky in that sense) and I don't think she realizes i am in a tougher field, and so she thinks i'm not trying hard enough (maybe I am not). So yah, its a lot of things
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:53 PM
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I won't go into too much detail regarding my ST experience, but it was AWFUL! I think it was on my list of one of the worst things that I've ever been through. I was a child psychology major and had to take some pretty challenging classes, yet my ST placement was the lowest grade I received during my years at my university.

I couldn't use my cooperating teacher as a reference because of the situation. It took me over 5 years to find a teaching job, but I think a lot of it had to do with the job market and the fact that I had no networks.

At times, I definitely felt like giving up and had even started looking into a nursing program at a local community college...but I am glad I stuck it out.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:43 PM
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I can tell you that I spoke to a teacher today who had an awful student teaching experience too. She has been teaching 18 years DESPITE the fact that her CT tried to sabotage her and then 5 years later was horrified to learn she had actually been hired.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hbcaligirl1985 View Post
and then 5 years later was horrified to learn she had actually been hired.
I just don't get that! My CT tried to fail me and told me I should never teach. It was definitely a blow to my self-confidence and I did doubt myself for quite a while since I wasn't able to get a job (let alone an INTERVIEW) for 5 years.

Looking back on it, I've realized the whole thing was definitely a learning experience. Had I wish things had gone more smoothly? Sure. At the same time, I am also glad I was putting in 100+ hours a week trying to please my CT and "get it right." Putting in the blood, sweat, and tears prepared me for the real world of teaching and my first 3 months on the job where I was working 70-80 hours a week, but I was expecting that. Sometimes I even consider sending her a thank you card.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:25 PM
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It's so hard for outsiders to look at what happens during a student teaching experience and really understand what went on.

When I was in grad school, we grad students often enrolled in the same classes as the undergrads. For the grad students, the course number would be much higher and the requirements of us would be much bigger, but we'd physically sit in the same room as the undergrads at the same time because we were a small department and there weren't many grad students (maybe 15-20 at any given time). For example, I took an ancient Greek class about the author Xenophon. It was like Greek 800-something for me, since I was a grad student, but Greek 400-something for the undergrads. We were all learning about Xenophon, but the grad students were expected to learn a lot more about Xenophon in a much deeper way. I hope that all makes sense. Anyway, in a lot of my classes was this one undergrad. He was, to be frank, an idiot. A nice guy and all, but honestly knew nothing about the content. Imagine my surprise when I learned that he wanted to be a Latin teacher. Heh. Anyway, so one day I was doing some field experience/observation stuff at a local high school. Lo and behold, he was there too, doing a mini lesson. He was teaching the students about some grammar topic. The problem was that he was doing it all wrong. He gave the wrong forms and translated them incorrectly. I sat there thinking, What the heck is this?? Fast forward a few years, and I was talking with the real classroom teacher for that class. She told me that he had been assigned to her as a student teacher but she had to basically "fire" him because he just didn't know the content. She was a kind person and a great teacher (from what I could tell), but she also needed a student teacher who would be able to actually teach the content. This guy couldn't do that. I'm sure that in his mind, his version of events, he probably thought that he was being picked on or treated unfairly or had unreasonable demands placed upon him.
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:07 AM
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I know this post is old, but I totally understand! My content is Social Studies, too. Reading your post reminded me of 1 of my 2 Student Teaching placements. I had 1 good placement, and 1 IDENTICAL to yours. Except the CT at that placement was overly critical and broke me down daily...even when I know I did things well and right. She always pointed out ONLY the bad. It was rough....just wanted to tell you that you're not alone!
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Old 02-01-2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by catnfiddle View Post
Start subbing and use that experience to supplement your classroom skills that you may not have perfected during your student teaching time. Once you get enough experience there, you'll probably also have some stellar references and not need to include your cooperating teachers among them. You will also have teaching jobs to add to your resume, which is equally important.
I agree with this. You can really make an impact and it could be a fresh start. Just be aware that subbing will really test your classroom management skills and your patience. You will have to be hard and strong. Kids can sense weakness in a sub and if that happens, they'll eat you alive.

In my student teaching experience, my cooperating teacher had fantastic classroom management and when I took over, the kids were a breeze because I only eased up a little, but it was enough to make them warm up to me. When I subbed after college, it was in an inner city district and it was a complete 180. It taught me to be tough, confident, and stick to my guns.

I now have a teaching job in the same district with the same inner city population and my classroom management is pretty good but it only got that way because I was forced to be tough. It was the best decision I could have made for my professional growth.

Take a deep breath, prepare yourself (both mentally and professionally), and dive in. You'll probably be glad you did
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