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Old 05-01-2012, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MotherGoose View Post
Anyways--- I walked into that last interview with such an attitude: Take it or leave it!... here I am. This is probably a waste of ALL of our time, but here I am anyway! Take me or leave me.

Well, they took me.

Looking back on it now, I see that I tried WAY too hard during the first 13 interviews. I was too nervous. So nervous, I was paralyzed and it was impossible for them to see the REAL me.

It was when I TRULY did not care WHAT part of me (the good, the bad, the ugly) that they TRULY saw ME. And MUCH to my surprise, they liked the REAL ME! Not the FILTERED one that I had presented all along.

WOW--- what an eye opener that experience was!

Anyways--- DON'T QUIT!!!! And PLease GOOGLE the poem "Don't Quit" and READ it OVER AND OVER again! I was made to memorize this poem in the 5th grade, and it has ALWAYS stuck with me and gotten me through tough times. ANd NOW--- I make ALL my students memorize it, I beleive it is one of the best gifts I can give to my students.

Hang in there, and good luck!
Yeah, being nervous will kill you in an interview!
Thanks for the post!
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:27 PM
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I haven't posted anything on here in a couple months because I've been way too busy but I know exactly how you feel about finding a job. I subbed for over two years and heard of a job opening in a nearby school district in February. I went into the interview thinking the same old thing would happen and I wouldn't get it. Well here I am today with the job and two months of teaching already done! Just keep trying. I was very close to giving up and going into something different. I'm so glad that I didn't now!
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by waterfall View Post
I think it depends on the person and how much teaching vs. living near family is important to them. My friends thought I was absolutely nuts when I announced I'd gotten a job in Colorado. I would tell people I'd landed a job, and of course their first reaction was to be really excited. When I told them where it was, they all got really quiet and said, "Oh"- even people I wasn't that close to and wouldn't have been that depressed about me leaving really- they just thought it was nuts that someone would pick up and move across the country for a job! For me, I knew I was NEVER going to get the opportunity to teach in my home state area given what I wanted to do. Of course I tried, but the market was impossible. When 5,000 people are applying for jobs, there are tons of absolutely "cream of the crop" candidates that are being turned away. I also was willing to sacrifice some things and not others. For me, location was one of them. I really wanted my own classroom, but was willing to start in sped. However, I was not willing to sacrifice my age group (elementary) or mild/moderate (vs. severe/profound). I wasn't going to take a job I would hate to simply have one. So for me, having a teaching career was worth the move. I've now also settled into a state where teaching jobs are much more available, and I was able to land a job for my dream position next year fairly easily since I was already living here.

I think people also need to think about just how many breaks teachers really do have- if you want to, you can make it home A LOT. I am home for a week at thanksgiving, about a week and a half at Christmas, a week for spring break, a week in the summer, my parents come out for a week in the summer, my best friend comes out for a different week in the summer...I still see everyone a lot, and I could go home even more if I really wanted to. It's really the same amount that I was in my hometown during college, since I always had a summer job in another state. My new job is about 20 minutes from our big airport, which will be really, really nice! I work in the summers and save that money up for flights. I always fly southwest and only into major airports, so it's really not that expensive at all.
I firmly believe that you can do anything for a year. That is the mindset I had when I moved. Like you, applicants were in the thousands per position and there was a ton of nepotism. I was the least likely person to ever move away- anyone who knew me knew this. In high school, people would talk about how they couldn't wait to move away- I talked about how I wanted to teach at the elementary school I went to. Everyone was shocked when I announced I was moving and no one thought I would make it. I did. I moved the day before I had to report- literally. It was in August and I flew home for Labor Day. I flew home a lot the first year. Afterward, I would go home Christmas, Thanksgiving, Spring Break, and a few times over summer. This gradually decreased to a week in the summer and Christmas. Luckily, my parents usually visit twice a year as well. I am also within a day's drive (11 hours). However, the first 2 years I was down here, I was stuck in a lease so I had to fly every time.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:48 AM
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giraffe - How is the job market in NC? I am thinking of moving there.
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:17 PM
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I'm so sorry

I'm so sorry your going through this. I was in your exact same position 2 years ago. There was a point when all I could think about was dying. I've never felt so low in my whole life. I decided that I was going to go out there and try no matter what and went out to every school in every school district and handed out my resume and cover letters, talked to principals, secretaries, whoever. I went to charter schools, private schools, catholic schools, anywhere and everywhere. I emailed principals when I had already done everything else. And...I got a job! I never thought it would happen and even now I can hardly believe it. Please don't give up. Try until you get a job. It will happen, just go out there and give it all you got so you'll never regret it. Speaking from someone who was as low if not lower than your feeling right now, you CAN do it! I too was living at home, feeling like a loser but I prayed about it and decided I was going to do whatever it took. Keep trying!
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Xidous003 View Post
giraffe - How is the job market in NC? I am thinking of moving there.
Elementary is pretty over-saturated. I know my district did away with all of their curriculum specialists due to budget reasons, so they have to put about 20-30 people back into the classrooms. (note- districts here generally consist of the entire county)

Unfortunately, teaching conditions aren't great, either. We are non-union, and contracts really don't exist. Most teachers have lunch duty, recess duty, and before and/or after school bus/car duty. I am fortunate to get 3 45-minute planning periods a week. I know some schools get 1 30-minute planning period per week. Add to that the fact that we have been on a pay freeze for 4 years now (the state regulates our salary).

Also, schools will not know their final budget and teacher allotment until the end of July. Hiring typically doesn't happen until mid-summer at the earliest (this was true 5 years ago when there was a shortage of teachers).

The good news is that I know quite a few teachers that want out and are looking for different jobs. I also know several who moved here and are looking to return to their home state (I am included in this group). So some positions may open up. 3 of the 21 teachers at my school are hoping to find a different job before the next school year, and I teach at the 'best' elementary school in the county. I have friends at other schools that are looking for something different as well.

This sounds depressing- sorry about that. There ARE jobs, they just are not super easy to come by. It is still easier to find a job here than in New England or the Midwest.

There are some middle school and high school openings in my county. Feel free to PM me and I'll send you the link.
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:23 AM
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I had to respond to the OP just because I really do feel your pain!! I had been working as a prek teacher and then an aide making 11 and 14$ per hour. I probably mailed out over 200 resumes in the last two years. I finally got tired of being broke and relying on my husband to pay all of our bills. I am now working at the regional early intervention office as an intake coordinator.. I never wanted and still don't want an office job but it's decent pay and great benefits. I still apply for teaching positions but I am no longer devoting my life to. I feel so much better about having a decent paycheck and a "real" job, compared to how depressed i was during the last two years.

Originally Posted by jen12 View Post
At what point does a reasonable person just decide they've given something a respectable try and it's time to move on?

No matter how much I want this, no matter how wide a geographic web I cast to catch a listing, no matter how well my transcripts look, no matter how many compliments and requests to sub I collect, no matter how comfortable I feel in the job, there is a very real financial consideration beating me in the face.

I went into teaching when my corporate job disappeared. I'd been thinking about doing it for a long time and since I wasn't going to have a job anymore, it seemed like a good time to go back to school for my teaching credential. One year doing that, three years subbing, and I'm no closer to having a full time job than I was when I walked out the door of Corporate America.

I'm not married, and my mom generously agreed to help me out with the career change. I gave up my apartment and moved back in with her, but I just turned 40 this year, and living like I'm 20 again is preposterous and getting more stressful by the day.

I'm going to have to start looking into corporate jobs again. I despise my former career field, and want to avoid it, so I'm thinking corporate trainer...however, those jobs seem as few and far between as teaching jobs nowadays.

Sorry...just feeling intensely depressed today.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:07 AM
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jen12, I feel for you. I'm going to PM you!
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:09 PM
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Im completely with you! This will be my second summer since graduation searching for a teaching job, and already feel it is hopeless. I made A LOT of mistakes in my early college years and I finally graduated college with my teaching degree at age 28! This is obviously not ideal, but I look at my past as a strength, I doubt the schools do. I would do most anything to find a teaching job in my state, the whole state, anywhere in this state! I wish I could figure out what it is that these administrators want to see on a resume or CL because I have sent out hundreds and gotten 0 interviews. I will not give up but it is hard not to. My fiancee works at a daycare, and I work as a paraprofessional at a school, so both low paying jobs and we have decided that we will not have children/a family until we are more financially stable, so I keep thinking that my future family depends on me getting a teaching job now! Sorry for my rant, I wish I had advice for you, but I am in the same boat and the depression is insane! All I can say is good luck friend!
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:52 PM
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Giraffe - Thanks for the intel. I am a secondary teacher. I am looking at NC, but gotta see how some things works themselves out here first.

Poster and Others - Add on those certifications, keep your geographic area to look very open (as in anywhere in the USA). It is my humble opinion that those who who suffer the most (we all suffer at times when looking for jobs) when looking for jobs are those who wish to teach one particular grade level/subject and/or want to live/work in one particular area.
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