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Old 10-29-2009, 10:17 PM
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I have a few students who are beyond my ability to manage. I suspect they require medical treatment for underlying conditions that may influence their behavior. I'm out of options and am turning to the support staff. The problem is the paperwork...

To submit an INRS (sp?) referral, I have to complete a dozen page form supported with substantial evidence. I'm not sure what this process will produce, if anything. Are there any counselors with experience in this area?
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:18 AM
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I'm not a counselor, but a teacher of special needs children. I feel your frustration. I would say to fill out the paperwork ASAP. Yes, it is frustrating and time consuming, but, it may get help for your students. I get really frustrated when children slip through the cracks year after year because the teacher doesn't want to fill out lots of paperwork to have the child assessed. Then the child gets to you and you are equally as frustrated because the teachers before you didn't do their job. So, now, instead of teaching a child that has had the necessary interventions and special help for a few years before middle school, you get a child who will most likely become a drop out.
Ok, that's my vent. Maybe a counselor can give you more advice.
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:22 AM
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WHAT DOES THE ACRONYM INRS MEAN? WHO ,HOW AND WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WARRANT THIS?

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I have a few students who are beyond my ability to manage. I suspect they require medical treatment for underlying conditions that may influence their behavior. I'm out of options and am turning to the support staff. The problem is the paperwork...

To submit an INRS (sp?) referral, I have to complete a dozen page form supported with substantial evidence. I'm not sure what this process will produce, if anything. Are there any counselors with experience in this area?
WHAT DOES THE ACRONYM INRS REPRESENT AND HOW IS A DECISION MADE TO PURSUE THIS PROCESS?
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:27 AM
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I have a few students who are beyond my ability to manage. I suspect they require medical treatment for underlying conditions that may influence their behavior. I'm out of options and am turning to the support staff. The problem is the paperwork...

To submit an INRS (sp?) referral, I have to complete a dozen page form supported with substantial evidence. I'm not sure what this process will produce, if anything. Are there any counselors with experience in this area?
What does this acronym mean?,why would this type of referral be made?
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:47 AM
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I have a few students who are beyond my ability to manage. I suspect they require medical treatment for underlying conditions that may influence their behavior. I'm out of options and am turning to the support staff. The problem is the paperwork...

To submit an INRS (sp?) referral, I have to complete a dozen page form supported with substantial evidence. I'm not sure what this process will produce, if anything. Are there any counselors with experience in this area?
It's I&RS- Intervention and Referral Services. I'm on the I&RS team in my building. Fill out the paperwork- there will be a meeting at which you will present your concerns. The team may suggest some additional strategies and interventions for you to try. One of the recommendations that could come out of the team might be a child study team work-up. Hopefully you have also shared your concerns with the parents of this student- have they offered any insight in terms of what they are seeing at home, medical history? Keep in mind, that even if this student (did you say SEVERAL??) do have ADHD or some other condition that could be remedied with meds, it's still the parents' option whether to medicate or not....so the strategies and interventions recommended by the team should be implemented-and document their use and results- so you have a record of all you've done. Document, document, document- sure it's a lot of paperwork, but it may get the kids the help they need, might offer you some additional strategies to improve your classroom management of behaviors, and, bottom line, covers your 'you know what'.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:40 AM
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It's I&RS- Intervention and Referral Services. I'm on the I&RS team in my building. Fill out the paperwork- there will be a meeting at which you will present your concerns. The team may suggest some additional strategies and interventions for you to try. One of the recommendations that could come out of the team might be a child study team work-up. Hopefully you have also shared your concerns with the parents of this student- have they offered any insight in terms of what they are seeing at home, medical history? Keep in mind, that even if this student (did you say SEVERAL??) do have ADHD or some other condition that could be remedied with meds, it's still the parents' option whether to medicate or not....so the strategies and interventions recommended by the team should be implemented-and document their use and results- so you have a record of all you've done. Document, document, document- sure it's a lot of paperwork, but it may get the kids the help they need, might offer you some additional strategies to improve your classroom management of behaviors, and, bottom line, covers your 'you know what'.
Thanks for the advice!

I spoke to the guidance counselor and to the parents of these students. The parents are aware of the issues, and the most rambunctious student is going back on meds (the mother says).

The reason for my skepticism is that I already have at least 4 kids with IEP's, and they don't get *any* resources for math (I teach math). The priority is literacy in my district, and there are no resources left over. If I go through the process, and these kids are assigned a child psychologist, I am wondering if it will yield anything when all is said and done.

I will do the paperwork to cover my rear if I must. The prospect of dealing with more bureaucratic paperwork is dampening my weekend.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:16 AM
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