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  1. jteach89

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    Hey everyone, would you resign from a teaching position at the beginning of the school year or mid year if you were unhappy with administrations lack of professionalism? I know its not a lot of information lol but on what grounds would you leave a school mid year or even at the beginning of the year after meeting parents? I'm currently not happy with how administrators approached me regarding a situation. At the same time, I would feel guilty for leaving the school year so abruptly. I've been working at this school for 4 years and I wish I would have made choices earlier but I feel it's time for me to leave. What would you do? Any advice? Thanks
     
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    I'd suggest you work on growing a thicker skin for the time being. Could be this administrator lacks in social skills or talks that way to everyone. You can't quit every time an administrator acts stupidly...because it happens often enough. LOL.
    If you have a mentor, trusted colleague or union rep in whom you can confide, you might feel better and there might be some recourse (you didn't give enough info).
    Good luck!
     
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    There can be serious consequences for breaking contract. Unless they are being abusive, I would just avoid contact with them as much as possible. Lay low and try not to interact with them unless necessary. Just stay in your room and teach your heart out. After all, you're not there for them, you're there for the children.
     
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    @Czaca didnt want to say too much but basically admins are irritable that I want to leave to another district and gave a snarky remark. I was hurt by it because I've worked very hard there, and its not like I just started yesterday. I was also very open and honest as to why I wanted to leave. But I could suck it up for a year but having major trust issues with admins now.

    @ TrademarkTer where I work I have to give at least 30 days notice if I decide to leave.
     
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    I left mid-year once. My last day was the day before winter break began, and I started in a new district in January. Another teacher left her job at a third school to take over the classroom I was leaving behind. I was at a charter school, so the contract could be broken at any time by either me or the administration. They weren't happy about it, but I gave notice and left on relatively good terms. I left because I was unhappy with administration, workload, and salary... but I would have stuck it out if I hadn't had another job lined up or if I was unable to break my contract.

    Based on the details you've given, I'd stick it out for the time being but work on finding a new position elsewhere. I don't think leaving without a new job to move on to would do any good for your career. I agree with czacza that you're going to be faced with administrators you want to get away from more often than not, so you might as well learn how to deal with them. Unless things get really bad (and I mean causing you health issues or something like threats to let you go mid-year), I'd recommend you stick it out as long as possible. Stay there until you have a new school to move on to.
     
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    Were you thinking of leaving this year, like even before this happened? How do they know that you want to leave?
     
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    Admins were suggesting that we look else where because the school was doing poorly and we were not %100 guaranteed our positions in the fall. One of the reasons I wanted to leave was based on the commute. Honestly they are such a flip-flop but I won't go there lol. Prior to this year over the summer I've been applying to schools, applied 40+ applications only got two call backs. However because I missed the transfer period administration has to release me if I were to go to another school but they are not required to so. And yes I wanted to leave this year but now I feel like I have no choice. I just didn't like what was said and basically thrown the guilt trip. Yet I was very open about everything and they knew I was looking else where and wanted to leave.
     
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    This is going to sound really bad but I don't know how else to say it. It doesn't sound like there is a lot of demand for your services. I don't think what admin said was all that bad. They are irritated that you have a job that you are looking to leave. A bad admin would be rude about it. It's not like they are harassing you though.

    Is it a Charter or a public going through possible turnaround?
     
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    Yea even though things are not guaranteed I was still assigned a placement tentatively. Its a public school and if we keep losing students it could turn charter. And no not harassment. It wasn't bad just not professional. And honestly not the response I expected but I'm not surprised. I was more hurt by it because I thought I could trust them as I was open and honest about everything. It's other reasons why I want to leave and I was made to feel like I'm wrong for wanting to do so.
     
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    I hear you, but in any line of work (schools included), there will be jerks. Just focus on the job at hand.
     
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    [QUOTE="jteach89,
    • would you resign from a teaching position at the beginning of the school year or mid year if you were unhappy
    • I would feel guilty for leaving the school year so abruptly.?
    • Any advice?[/QUOTE
    Hello Jteach. Absolutely, unequivocally NOT! (based on the info. you've given)
    We are in professional service jobs, and lots of things at the school hinge on the presence of teachers (and other staff). Just because administration is not acting professional, DO NOT LET THAT AFFECT YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.

    DO WHAT'S RIGHT in spite of what they did.
    If you signed the contract for a year, and you're not sick or injured, stick with it, and leave at the end of the term. This is a CHARACTER-BUILDING situation.

    If you jump-up and run off, and leave the school in a pickle, your professional reputation could be ruined for years by the principal. Based on the information you provided, my advice to you is, STAY, and make the best of it.
     
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    What is that bad that it impedes your ability to finish the year and look for another position elsewhere?
     
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    What they said was, they do not want to hold any teacher in their school who doesn't want to be there. There was another snarky remark but depending on some people maybe they don't take things as personally.
    No it wasn't that statement alone. I've been there for 4 years, it's not like I just started yesterday.

    "DO WHAT'S RIGHT in spite of what they did. If you signed the contract for a year, and you're not sick or injured, stick with it, and leave at the end of the term. This is a CHARACTER-BUILDING situation."

    I can leave whenever I want, no contract "signed" per se. As long as I give enough notice so I will not be penalized for it.

    "If you jump-up and run off, and leave the school in a pickle, your professional reputation could be ruined for years by the principal."


    Even if I do stay a year, I wouldn't use them as reference anyway.


    I get that it's not the professional thing to do. And maybe I'm taking it more personally than I should but I didn't like it. Now I also have some trust issues with admin, even though the trust issues started happening before this. It's been a large struggle from when I started until now. This job is already stressful as it is, and admins who get emotional and act like jerks doesn't make the job any easier. Its been a struggle since I started there. But I get it, its not the best move to make but Ive been thinking about it a lot.[/QUOTE]
     
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    I think you're on to a real chance for some empathy here. Imagine you are an admin, and your school is close to being taken over and turned into a charter school. Your own job security is on the line. Don't you think you would have a lot of stress. Sometimes stress and emotion make us say things we shouldn't say, or at the very least reduce our filter that helps us use tact. It's unfortunate that your administrators seem to be doing a poor job rallying the troops to make the school better. If I had quit every time an administrator made me cry, I would not have made it out of my first year teaching.
     
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    Some schools will call your last administrator (or at least HR) regardless of whether or not you put them as a reference. Be careful.
     
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    Is that why you want to leave? They gave you a snarky remark? What happens when the next school is even WORSE?
    I resigned because my admin WAS useless and it wasn't going to get any better. I saw that I wasn't getting any helped and that there was going to be no change. Our AP had resigned so the P was forced to do the job alone... but I don't feel bad for her because she had other admin buddies (the academic coaches) who didn't do their jobs and basically got to sit around in their air conditioned offices all day instead of being out to help us. And we had a horrible group of kids; I would call the office for help with my ODD student and NOBODY picked up. I felt like I was on an island. The only time they ''cared'' about us was when they got the test scores -- they were poor-- and they were like "What's going on?" "What can we do to help?"
    I remember being in a meeting with the district reading specialist and our p, and said ''I would like for someone to come in and MODEL a lesson so I could see what it's supposed to look like.'' They just laughed at me. :mad: What was funny? Our test scores were horrible and I was trying to get help. I didn't. It was pretty much a sign that things weren't going to get any better. Mistakenly I believed we were all in it for the kids' success, but I guess not.
    I resigned and of course I got an email from the p who wanted to talk and ''hear my concerns.'' :rofl:
    I went to the meeting and told her flat out, "You're not giving us the help we need! " And my team and I had reached out various times... in fact we even went to our mentor who was well connected and his wife was the academic coach and he promised that she would model a lesson for us... the year ended and it never happened. She's now the AP of the school. :roll:
    But I wasn't ''hurt'' by any snarky remarks. I just couldn't handle a piss poorly run school with lackluster management. That frustrated me!
    You need to understand (as I did) that the admin may (or may not) be great and if you have an awesome team (like I did) that's really all that matters.
    :):heart:
    I've come to find out that we ALL resigned...hahah... I was first, and they stuck around for another year, but both are gone for this upcoming school year. There's something to be said when you have multiple resignations ( I mean entire departments) leaving at one school.
     
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    It was the snarky remark and among other things. Many OTHER THINGS lol. I just do not trust my admin now since they boldly state how they "don't want any teachers that don't want to be in their school." And it also has to do with other issues as well. The school is losing students. I just hope that they don't make my year like crap, If I stay, I will keep my distance and only go to them when I need too. I've shed too many tears over this school and what for...
     
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    In hindsight applying online for schools was not the best way to get interviews. If I would have gotten a transfer before the ending date to transfer, I wouldn't need a release from admin. I would have left before September but now I have no choice sadly. I was prepared to leave.
     
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    A good glass of wine at night and a great team can help solve a lot of your problems.
    :wink:
     
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    You are not there to serve the Principal; you are serving the students. Leave at the end of the year like a professional. If you leave during the year, you are only walking out on the students, which they don't deserve.
     

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