What tools/software does your school use for daily dismissals/carlines?

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  1. Pat Bhava

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    Hi Teachers,

    I was doing a survey on all the available tools out there which schools are using to make your end of the day dismissal safer and more organized. This may include any software or hardware for managing the carlines, walkers or bus riders. 99% of the schools today use walkie talkies, bullhorns, paper car-tags or clipboards to manage the process.
    I am trying to create a comprehensive list of tools available out there and valuate them for my research. I have already done an online research and am aware of a handful of systems available commercially. What I am trying to learn here from the teachers first hand is this - what are you guys using hands on at your school that seems to be working?
    In full disclosure, I along with a small team of parents and teachers are creating a system which would address this issue in a comprehensive manner. We could use help and inputs in improving it.

    Thanks for your time,
    Sincerely,
    Pat Bhava
     
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    Is this a problem some places?
    Where I grew up and everywhere I've worked, all the kids Preschool - 12th Grade, knew if they were a bus rider (and which bus they rode), walker, car rider, etc.
    Buses line up on one side of the school and the cars line up on the other side.
    And the walkers head out.
    Zero problems.
     
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    :yeahthat:
    At my current school we walk all our students to the front of the school in two lines: walkers/pick-ups and bus riders. The kids know where they're going. Grade levels rotate after school duty where you make sure kids are crossing safely and getting where they need to be. They usually have walkies, but that's about it.
     
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    The kids leave our classrooms and head to where they need to go. Four of our educational assistants are on supervision duty in various places outside. The kindergarten teachers supervise the pick-up of their students. Any students who are still waiting to be picked up 15 minutes after the dismissal bell are brought into the office to wait.
     
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    I agree with the others. Our students are brought to their dismissal areas and sit there until it is their turn to go. I don't really see that additional software or hardware would make the job any easier than it is.
     
  7. Pat Bhava

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    While I agree with all the comments above, Here are the reasons and use cases due to which schools and parents are demanding more accountability during the school dismissal time.

    - As a parent, there is expectation to know through an alert/notification the time their child gets on a bus and also the exact bus number, so they have piece of mind that their child got on the right bus. There are examples every day of children being put on wrong busses and being dropped off at the wrong stops. All it takes is one mistake for schools to look for more secure solutions as this problem is entirely avoidable.

    - For schools with more than a few hundred cars in carlines, it is not as much about efficiency as it is about safety. Carpool plans change on a daily basis. Nannies and grandparents pick up kids all the time. Custody issues between parents further complicates the problem and puts additional load on teachers to get it right. All these change requests are tracked by teachers or front desk staff through emails, phone calls, notes in kids back packs etc and collated for the end of the day.
    - In a lot of schools in the suburbs with limited access roads, the wait times in carlines are regularly more than 30-40 minutes.

    - When there is change in the dismissal plan due to an emergency related to weather or some other incidents, the only tools the schools use to communicate with parents are either email or a recorded voice call blasted to the entire database. A push notification to parents phone in real time would be really useful in such circumstances.

    - With regards to teachers managing the process, rain, shine or snow, there has to be a handful of teachers orchestrating the process with patience for upto 30-40 minutes every day, the time they could use for lesson planning. Furthermore, any mistakes made during the dismissal, legally the teacher is held liable for it even though she does not have the right tools or information required for that job.

    - The premise is that, we now have the technology and tools to make our children safer and the process more efficient. Just because we were doing things a different way for decades, does not make that right. We live in a world where parents demand more accountability, and schools are looking to be more productive and efficient.

    - Finally, we need to do every thing to make our kids safer and not leave the onus on them to identify the right car/bus to get into.

    Would like to hear your thoughts on these points above. Especially from teachers who do not think that these points are valid.
     
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    None of your technology ideas actually make the process any better. People still have to be there to complete the actual procedure, and those duty times are built into their schedule. Each school has aligned their dismissal procedures to suit their individual needs, so a generalized technological system would not work with everyone.

    I appreciate your efforts to bring dismissal procedures into the 21st century, but sometimes older procedures actually are quite efficient.
     
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    I grew up in a big suburb.
    My high school of 9th-12th grade had 3000 students.
    It did not take that long for everyone to get dismissed.
    For example, in high school, we got out at 3:10, I was HOME by 3:40
    Elementary school was about the same.
    And like someone said (sorry, forgot to look at the name), actual human beings will still need to be out there during dismissal time. To help younger students, they all have bus tags on their backpacks. If they're not going home (like going to daycare after school), it says so on there as well. I've only been teaching for 7 years, but I've never had a problem with a child getting on the wrong bus. We (the preschool classrooms) have a list of authorized adults who are allowed to get a kid from school. Mom can't make it today? Ok, grandma's on the list, fine.
     
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    I don't think that such technology is necessary in most situations. If such software did exist it would need to be an extension of software already in use at the school otherwise it gets too cumbersome, which negates any nominal benefit.
     
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    Announcement #1: Teachers, dismiss first-run bus students.

    Announcement #2: Teachers, dismiss car riders.

    Announcement #3: Teachers, dismiss second-run bus students.

    Administrator and teacher on duty outside with busses. Teacher outside in front of building. That's it. Never been an issue.
     
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    We have students as young as three who change busses daily. Each bus has an aide. Each driver knows his/her riders. Parents get peace of mind from having people who know their children.

    We only check who is picking kids up when they check them out during the school day. We do not ch ck after school. Th elementary schools have paper hang tags.

    We encourage parents to use busses or wait until 15 minutes or so after dismissal for traffic to clear. Some parents line up as much as two hours before dismissal to be at the head of the line. It blocks traffic into and out of the parking lot for staff and visitors.

    We have a real-time app for push notifications. We used it last week when a severe storm hit right before dismissal and we held kids until it passed. We were almost an hour late dismissing.

    I'm all for productivity and efficiency. However, I'm also all for parents and children being accountable and stop making everything the fault of the teachers and schools.

    At what age are students responsible enough for this? We had parents complain about us not escorting kids to busses or cars. They are 12 to 15 years old. They can find a bus.
     

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