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  1. gr3teacher

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    As for the study hall thing... I can't speak for that. I teach elementary school, so I wouldn't be able to leave a full-day study hall. I do remember when I subbed for high school teachers, it wasn't unusual to be left with "study hall," especially if it was a Monday or a Friday. I'd agree that four teachers just leaving study hall kind of stinks... I get not wanting to leave something new for a sub, but I'd think some type of review activity would be better.
     
  2. Aliceacc

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    They have midterms in mid January. There's LOTS of work that could have been left had a teacher been too ill to attend school today.
     
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    I am wondering if any (not all 4) are stuck somewhere because of the snow. It has been snowing for days here in Chicago and a lot of flights have been cancelled.
     
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    I have worked over the break--but only on planning. I've worked much, much more on my home and Christmas, and tending to my children, visiting friends--and I am sure other teachers have done the same. This break is my time and I have used it that way.

    I am not grading anything until this weekend that way scores, errors, who is missing what, will be totally fresh in my mind for Monday. Our powerschool is NOT accessible to parents and students yet, so it makes no never mind when I get grades in, but I always update grades several times per week, but not over break, and I don't feel sorry about it either. The kids won't know their scores until I hand them back to them anyways. I actually considered doing grading that first weekend out, but I decided against because any of my fury over people turning in incomplete work or failing to turn in (that last week before break the kids were totally, and I mean totally, checked out) would have been gone. I need to be rip roarin' ready to get down to business on Monday.

    But I skeleton planned my whole fractions unit, and got most assignment in order, etc. So I have done quite a bit. So much so, I might have a few weekends of plan-free after break, yay!.

    In my old district they had this 2-day week too. Thank goodness my new district doesn't. I am enjoying my time with my family...
     
  5. 2ndTimeAround

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    No, you need to see it as five working days, not three weeks.

    Honestly, would you have driven your son to school on Dec. 25th to get the results if she had them done in one week?
     
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    I'm elementary, so excuse the possible dumb question. Their "plans" left for the sub was to have the kids do nomework/study? That would be completely unacceptable at my school. We are required to have generic sub plans just in case we are out and can't get regular sub plans ready.
     
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    No, it's 3 weeks. Especially to a 15 year old who worked his tail off to do well.

    How long does it take to run a bunch of scantrons through?

    And if you're going to preach to parents that they should be checking Powerschool, then it needs to be a two way street. Grades should be posted in a timely manner.

    And, yes, Christy, he said it was a "quiet study" in those 4 classes. I asked why he had no homework, and his response was that he had more than enough time to do his science homework during those 4 quiet studies.
     
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    Well, if they are in high school there are LOTS of things that they could have done on their own to help prepare for the midterms.

    Not agreeing with the teachers if they just blew off a day of work, but not seeing the travesty either.
     
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    Now that's a thought. Flights have been cancelled, that has been all over the news.
     
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    My district is the only one in the area that didn't go back today and that's because we all held a vote this year and chose to stay in 2 longer in June to take these off. So I don't think going back today is that weird, nor is appropriate to take extra vacay days, IMO.

    In fact, in my district, we're not allowed to take days off the day before or the day after a scheduled break. Anyone out has to provide evidence of emergency/illness or be written up. I would be frustrated at that many teachers taking an extra day off.
     
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    As far as the grading thing goes... (honest question)... would you consider it a big deal if they took a test on a Tuesday in the middle of January, and the results weren't posted by the following Monday? Because that's ultimately what this is. Yes, it's two weeks and change of real-time, but most of that time was unpaid vacation time.
     
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    My tests are returned within 48 hours, and I don't do scantrons.

    If you don't want to grade over Christmas, great. Don't give a test the Tuesday before if you can't get it graded by Friday. Or do so, and then attend school when it opens so you can return them then.
     
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    It takes me about ten minutes to run a set of scantrons through. About ten/fifteen to analyze the results. And another ten/fifteen to put them into both gradebooks.

    That's 30 minutes that I did not have the week before break. I *could have stayed late on the Friday before break but I chose to spend that time with my family instead.

    I don't really care if parents check grades online. I think at the high school level the responsibility should be on the student, not the parents anyhow. It is a great tool but it should never, NEVER, be an expectation that grades are placed into the system within a matter of 2/3 days.
     
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    Wow, to be honest, I hadn't responded on the test thing because I wasn't sure what I thought. Putting it in that frame though (Tues--> Mon) puts me pretty firmly on the OP's side though. I would find nearly a week unacceptable for test grades, especially if they see the students every day. Test grades are a big deal to high school students.
     
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    Please believe he checked every single day.
     
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    I'm a mom and a teacher, so I understand your frustration. Albeit my oldest is a first-grader--but I'm not sure what you are angry about--absent teachers or the test not posted. If the test grade had been posted would you still be mad about the absent teachers? Or if they had been there today, would you still be upset? The bottom line is you don't know all of the details. Crap happens--you don't know why these people were out. They could've had a death in the family, a sick family member, a sick child, been sick themselves, been trapped somewhere and unable to fly home (as someone said), etc. I'd email his teacher and inquire about what his results are, and see if you get a response...
     
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    But you don't get to dictate how a teacher runs her class! So you're awesome, wonderful, perfect and all that and are able to get tests back sooner than most. Good for you. That isn't a choice I am willing to make in my classroom. And complain as you will, that won't be changing.
     
  18. gr3teacher

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    That makes sense. From my perspective as an elementary teacher, my school policy is that everything goes (EDIT: home, not from) on Thursday, no matter what... so if a student takes a test on Tuesday, it is very unlikely they would get the test back before the next Thursday since most tests would fall after planning time Tuesday, and I don't have planning on Wednesdays (though they may know their scores before then).
     
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    I would not expect for a moment a teacher to have those grades posted.
     
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    I got to agree with you on that, tests and quizzes are high priority for me. I grade those the same day, often times before I go home. Kids know what they got the next day.

    The stuff sitting on my desk to be graded from that last week is homework assignments that were review in nature...Still important, and still blown off by about 15% of my students...Grrrr...
     
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