Virginia teachers...help please!

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  1. mollydoll

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    Depends which district. I have been told by many sources (including the recruiters) that PWS and FCPS are not doing much until mid-July. They have kept touch with me via emails that may or may not be form letters sent to all job fair people. The FX recruiter told me to email all the principals while I am waiting. I applied to both of these districts back in March.

    One district just called over the weekend to offer me a job; I submitted my application online over a month ago and heard nothing. I had already had a screening interview at a job fair.

    I got two interviews the same week I applied (and two job offers, including one on the spot). I had another interview request from a district that took down their posting for the job, so I never submitted the online application. Weird.

    Haven't heard anything from the other 7 or 8 that I submitted. But one of them (Manassas) would not interview me until my final transcript is in and when I told them I was graduating first week of July, they told me to get all materials in, but that they could not consider me until everything was official. They also called me saying my references were invalid because they did not include my current supervisor. I had letters from professors I did PUBLISHED RESEARCH with, and they wouldn't move forward with my application until I replaced one of those with one from the STUDENT who supervises my $6/hr student job, so I had to pay $8 for her to fax in a blank form (there was nothing she could fill out). Manassas HR hasn't impressed me much.

    It looked to me like the smaller districts around Richmond and Williamsburg Schools had already closed or started to close their listings by the 2nd week in June.
     
  2. smurfette

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    I don't think the recruiter is quite right about PWCS. My principal has been getting resumes/applications from the Hill for a while, and hired at least one person mid-June and one more at the end of June. Might even have 2 more hired by tomorrow. (When I say, "hired," I mean offers put out and accepted, not necessarily processed by HR). I've sat in on a handful of interviews, and I know there have been others for which I was not present. We lost one applicant to a neighboring county, so I know they are interviewing and hiring now, too. If human resources in the counties you are looking at say you're allowed to contact principals directly, definitely start doing that, if you haven't done so. With all the RIFs going on my feeling is that there are a lot of candidates out there this year, so I advise you to get your foot in the door early.

    Not related, but I really feel for these teachers who have been let go. :( We've interviewed several, and they seem like really good people who are in a crap situation.
     
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    I just got a message (wow, they work fast!) from an elementary school principal who is retiring and she said she's forwarding my resume to the new principal. The new principal is having interviews at the end of next week and the old principal wants me to contact her when she's back in the office (she's off for a few days). Does this sound like I should get an interview? I mean, she made the effort of calling me instead of emailing me so I guess that's a good sign.
     
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    Good luck teacherella. I'm sad that you are leaving me but excited for you and your husband! :D
     
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    Oh, and that sounds promising to me!
     
  6. Teacherella

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    Hi Leigh - I was originally going to look for a mid-year job in VA, but I decided "what the heck" and I'm searching for jobs starting in September. If I can't get one (it's so last minute) in VA then I'll stay here and keep the interim job until it's over in Dec. :)
     
  7. mollydoll

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    Good luck Teacherella.

    Fairfax just contacted me to tell me to apply through the new vacancy list they just posted. Wow, sure aren't many, and a lot are part time positions. The listing the recruiter sent me is only .33 (only one posting for my area). Yikes. Glad I wasn't counting on Fairfax.

    When I subbed there, the July vacancy list was always many pages, now it is one? Did they do a boatload of internal hiring/shifting around, or did nobody leave this year?
     
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    It's a combination. Fairfax cut something like 800 positions overall this year, due to budget constraints. They upped class sizes, froze salaries, increased caseloads for support personnel and reduced administrative positions. I didn't hear of any layoffs, so they probably filled most of their vacancies by moving destaffs around. In addition, with the economy the way it is, some teachers are probably delaying retirement to make up for money they lost in their 401k funds.

    We had a similar situation in PWC, except for the salary freeze. Our class sizes are not increasing that much, but we have lost a lot of support staff, and they have increased the caseload for our SPED teachers to really scary levels. They cut instructional support positions at Independent Hill and put many of those teachers back in classrooms.
     
  9. mollydoll

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    Yikes. Class sizes were already scary in Fairfax. I subbed for chemistry classes where they couldn't do proper labs because they had 32 kids in a room meant for 26. I was really shocked though, because the Fairfax vacancy list is much smaller than other districts like Henrico and Richmond. Even Stafford has a pretty lengthy vacancy list.

    I notice Fairfax has a number of part time chemistry positions. Probably they won't fill those (as usual), and will have even larger chemistry classes. Chemistry was the subject I subbed for the most, so I got to know all those teachers pretty well, county wide. It wasn't pretty 4 years ago, so I can't imagine now. Teaching chemistry without proper labs is just awful for the kids.

    I didn't hear about salary freezes in Fairfax, but my friend who teaches Spanish in PWS said her salary was frozen, plus no step increase this year. I haven't talked to her in a couple week though--did they reverse this, or was it just not final?
     
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    Crossing my fingers for you Teacherella!!
     
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    WaPo had an article about how things ended up in Fairfax:

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    All the PWCS stuff happened back in the winter. They came out with a budget that said they were freezing salaries. A couple of weeks later, Steve-O sent out an e-mail saying that they were going to reverse it. I think they got some stimulus funds, or something. I also found an article about PWCS:

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    I'm surprised your friend didn't know her salary went up. Every year at the beginning of June, we get our contracts, which has the salary on the front, and a salary scale attached. Maybe I'm just not as trusting: I read the whole thing and double-check the salary.
     
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    Thanks, smalltown! I'm grateful to have an interim position, but having a full year position in my soon-to-be new state (instead of staying here while DH is there) would be great!

    Congrats on your new job!!! :)
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    I don't know about the online ap because we were paper when I worked there. I was hired after school started weeks after the P put in paperwork for me so I know they can be slow. I was a part time reading specialist at Kate Waller Barrett ES (It's the school closest to the marine corp base)about 4 years ago. It is the most northern school in Stafford. My friend is no longer the AP there who was my biggie contact, but the principal is smart and fun (She once had a scavenger hunt for teachers and one of the items was to find a man with a mullet and take a picture with him).

    They usually have lots of openings.
     
  15. mollydoll

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    Thanks for the links. I had no idea things were so bad in Fairfax. I probably haven't discussed this stuff with my friend since she got her new contract. I'm glad you ended up getting your increases. That is really miserable in Fairfax, especially since the cost of living there continues to increase.
     
  16. smurfette

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    It definitely sucks, but I don't think anyone wants to complain about it when things are so much worse for teachers in other states. In some other districts in the country, hundreds of teachers are being RIFed, and the districts around here are still hiring, even if it's less than before. We're sad to be losing quite a few of our teaching assistants, but at least they will have jobs in other schools in the county.

    Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that I'm still making less than I would in Fairfax, even with my step increase. :(

    Good luck to teacherella. It does sound like you will be getting an interview if she asked you to call back.

    Unfortunately, I bet this was not as difficult as one would expect.
     
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    Not around here (SW). :lol:
     

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