UNBELIEVABLE!

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  1. nstructor

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    Wow!
     
  4. TrademarkTer

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    S***tiest govenor in the country award...this guy makes our former governor Christie look reasonable!
     
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    This is horrible....
     
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    Exactly and eloquently stated, my friend. What an a-hole!!! How dare he accuse teachers of that!
     
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    My sympathy is with the teachers of Kentucky. I am so proud of these women (and men) marching for better support for their schools. The governor sounds like a moron.
     
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    He sounds like a raging incompetent and mental invalid...
     
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    What a d-bag.
     
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    "because there was nobody there to watch them.."

    So..... we are babysitters now???

    Beavis (no typo intended here) must have taken notes from Butt-Head Mayor Emmanuel in Chicago. Emanuel also felt that the CPS teachers were being irresponsible for going on strike in 2012, accusing them of endangering the children of Chicago, because they could not go to school.

    "Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is seeking a legal injunction to end the strike in the nation’s third largest school district on the grounds that “it was called over issues that teachers are not legally permitted to strike about and that it endangers the health and safety of children,” according to The New York Times."

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    09/18/2012 09:13 am ET Updated Nov 18, 2012

    Hmmmm....

    Mr. Mayor, why don't you clean up the city, and take care of the violence, abandoned buildings, and create jobs for underprivileged youth? Maybe then the Chicago won't be such a dangerous place for children.

    And adults.

    Because there's nobody to watch us either, apparently.
     
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    I guess teachers are responsible for nights, weekends, holiday, summers and bad weather closures, too?
     
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    What a moron.
     
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    That governor made a political calculation that voters sympathetic to teachers and schools are outnumbered by the other voters. I'm guessing that's a bad move.
     
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    Didn’t you know? It’s our jobs to fix every problem in society. How did you not know this?! :p
     
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    Yeah, we took the place of farmers, when our country became industrialized. Once the crops were picked, no reason to have kids working. Let them run wild and have fun in the summer. Well, I guess we should be 'watching them' in the summer too.
     
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    I think the statement is terrible to make, but there is a big difference between planned time off and an extended unplanned time off not related to weather.
     
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    It was sarcasm. :rolleyes:o_O:whistle:
     
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    The governor's comment was terrible. But there is a big difference between planned time off and unexpected extended time off of school when trying to find child care, especially for the poor.

    Make all of the insulting emojis you want. The fact is when teachers decide to strike or walk out unexpectedly there are unintended consequences. While teacher's may not be responsible for those times in the legal manner, their choices do have consequences within the community.

    But, hey, isn't the whole point of a strike to make things difficult for the parents and students so that they will ultimately support the teachers in their cause?
     
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    only if the poor expect the primary role of teachers is to provide daycare. Which many people do - they see school as a place to hold kids so the parents do not have to take care of them during the day.
     
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    Normally, I am against protesting because it is highly disruptive and it can turn dangerous fairly quickly. However, in this instance, I am 100% on the side of the striking teachers. It is appalling that school districts only offer them a $1,000 raise over decades in addition to indefinite pay freezes. They are paid so low that minimum wage workers in California make comparable pay to some teachers and that is not acceptable. At. All.

    It’s not fair for someone to have a Bachelors degree, do hours and hours of teacher observations, complete a lengthy and taxing teacher credential program that can last anywhere from 1-2 years, be required to get a Masters degree in some states (another 1-2 years of schooling), have to take numerous and expensive certification tests, and after all said and done are only offered $36,000 to start and a salary schedule that tops out at $45,000. It’s an insult to the teaching profession and to the teachers who devote their lives to educating the next generations. These politicians brought in on themselves. There are numerous ways they could have funded education, liking taxing the lottery, alcohol and tobacco sales, etc. They always have some excuse for how they severely underpay teachers.

    Let me demonstrate, I entered $36,000 for a teacher of my experience (4th-year teacher with a Masters and clear credential) on Payscale and do you know what percentile came up? 4th percentile for wage earners. That’s how severely underpaid teachers in red states are paid and it’s totally unacceptable when they make next to nothing almost their entire careers. Especially since people can make much more money starting an entry-level job out of college with little to no skill set or work experience and no certifications or advanced training.

    I’m glad that teachers are not letting this stand any longer. It’s about time that they are paid what they are worth, just like every other position out there in the private industry.
     
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    I can definitely attest to this. My school has an extended school day (for which teachers are paid pretty generously). With recent budget issues in the district, a few people suggested that the extended day be eliminated, potentially saving hundreds of thousands of dollars. The community rallied against it very strongly, not because of the additional academic support but because it's one less hour at home or with a paid childcare provider.
     

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