tenure teacher and non-tenure teacher

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  1. megan

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    Hi, everyone,

    You will be a tenured teacher after 5 years teaching. So, if you are working in one district for a year, then another district for a few years. Can you add the years you teacher in different schools in order to get tenured?
     
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    I often find out on the appletrack it says the opening position is a tenure vacancy. What does that mean?
     
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    Here the tenure is granted after the first day of your fifth year in the same district.

    If you have tenure in one district, then go to a different district, the new district can offer tenure after the first year.

    Of course, all of that is going to vary by state.
     
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    It might vary by state or even by district. Here, you get a year toward the five for each previous district you had at least two consecutive years at.
     
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    Here, you get credit for some years of service in terms of pay, but NOT tenure. You'd need 4 or 5 years to gain tenure.
     
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    Not in Jersey. Depends on state.
     
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    This means it’s ‘tenure track’, not a sub or temporary position. It’s a position that could eventually lead to tenure.
     
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    And then there are the states that don't offer tenure at all. Virginia comes to mind, but I know that there are several states in that category.
     
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    In my state, tenure is granted after 3 consecutive full-time years in the same district. If tenure is gained and you seek employment in a new district, the clock resets.
     
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    We don’t have tenure at my private school. We are at-will employees; though, there is a clause in our contracts that says we can only be terminated for reasons that are explicitly outlined therein. For us, that means we have to be deemed incompetent by multiple administrators (you won’t be solely judged by the evaluations of a single admin) over an extended period of time, you receive consecutive poor evaluations, you regress after being put on an improvement plan, you habitually engage in dereliction of duties, and/or you do something egregious like physically abuse a child, engage in illicit drug use, you receive a felonious conviction, etc.

    This is my 5th year and I was recently renewed. I’m not worried as I don’t do any of the aforementioned things and so I’m safe. :D
     
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    Here your tenured after 2 years. If you struggle they might make it 3 , but they dont have too, and if you dont get tenure you are layed off
     
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    I like this model. IMO, only the teachers who pass muster should get tenure.
     
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    I can't imagine there is any state where it works like that. Here, we don't have tenure but do have a "non-probationary" status you can earn after three years of proficient evaluations. A few years ago they made some laws surrounding evaluations and as part of that deal, they said you could transfer your non-probationary status to another district. However, that doesn't really happen in practice. Almost all districts simply put a statement on their hiring page that says "All new hires will be placed on probationary contracts."

    I do know of one district that says they allow you to transfer your status, but it appears to be a long process- if you choose to go that route, HR has to review everything and you can't officially apply to positions during the 30 days that takes, so if you're looking at a specific job you'll lose it if you wait that long. I'd also have to assume that if a P has a choice between hiring someone willing to accept probationary status vs. someone that's non-probationary, most of the time they're going to take the probationary teacher.
     
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    Speaking of which, did you land any jobs yet? :)
     
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    Please keep up posted! Best of luck and happy job hunting!
     
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    8+ years is bad enough, but 15 years?! Why don’t they pack up shop and move elsewhere where they can acquire gainful employment? That makes absolutely no sense to me.
     
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