Teachers, look at this salary schedule in CA!

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  1. futuremathsprof

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    Thanks for the link! However, this post assumes the person is only making $25/hr in wages. I make more than that just from my teaching job alone. And I spend about $250/month in gas, on average, not $19/day, which comes out to $570/month, as I am a single person. And I make substantially more than that tutoring (4.8 times more than $25/hr), so it behooves me to drive the 45 minutes to 1.5 hours after school (depending on the client and traffic).

    It’s a matter of weighing my opportunity cost. In this case, my profit margins are huge ($3,840/month working 2 hours per day for 16 days a month) and so it would be fiscally nonsensical to not do what I currently do. If I worked 3 hours per day that comes out to $5,760/month, so it’s totally worth it. Yes, commuting is not fun, but the reward more than makes up for it.

    Doing the math, if I just work 2 hours a day for 16 days a month ($3,840), then my profit is $3,840 - $250 or $3,590/month or $43,080/year. Yeah, I think I’ll still commute, haha!
     
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    True that!
     
  3. Ms.Holyoke

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    Wow...I never would have thought you would want to switch schools!

    I would do a lot of research before switching for $$, especially because you seem to have job security at your current school. I am possibly going to start job searching in the district that I live in currently for next year because the pay is much better and the union is stronger. However, I've only been in my current district this year so I don't have tenure, etc.
     
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    Usually high salary goes with high cost of living. So you're at the same as lower salary - lower cost of living.
    I love it here in the Central Valley, very low cost of living but I'm still making the same I would in San Diego.
    I mean originally didn't love the Central Valley of Ca, it's a high poverty area, etc, not the prettiest, very stinky from all the farms, lol, but we have more outdoors here than anywhere else in Cali that I can think of. A win - win for me.
     
  5. a2z

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    Nope. I don't think there is anything but a trailer to purchase on land that rents 800+ per month at that price. It is so sad how expensive housing is and rents aren't any better.
     
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    It is a very difficult decision to make and I am definitely weighing the pros and cons. I do have job security at my current school and I would miss it. I may or may not still, but it’s nice to have options.

    The other thing is that I just don’t want to miss out on that unimaginable salary. I mean, it’s as much as principals and superintendents make and I’ve always envied them for it. And right now, I make 69k. Next year, I’ll make 76k as per my negotiated contract. The year after, I’ll make 83k, and then 90k and then 95k and then 100k, 100k, 100k, ...

    At MVLA, I would be in the BA + 60 column (Masters + 15 currently but soon to be Masters + 24), and so I would make $112,764 + Masters stipend ($2,582) or $115,346. Then it would increase by $4,000-$5,000/year, which is a little less than my current annual increase. And that would quickly rise to the 145k range with time.

    And I would be able to tutor less because I would still make six figures without it. The only reason why I tutor so much right now is because I don’t ever want to make less than six figures. That is out of the question for me.
     
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    I know, right?! Do you think the new governor of California will keep his promise and focus on the housing crisis? I’m keeping my fingers crossed that he will...
     
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    I’m at $55,212 with 25 years and a MA. I’ll retire at $55,720 unless we get a raise, which isn’t likely. My DH is in another district, and our salaries are nearly identical. He gets a stipend ($1200?) for being the school technology coordinator, and I get one ($250) for writing leader.

    I don’t know anywhere we could make substantially more money without a yucky commute.
     
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    Why do they pay you so little when you have a Masters and have been teaching for 25 years? I really don’t understand how any school district can justify indefinite pay freezes.
     
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    I think I assumed she had a lower cost of living where she was.
     
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    School budget is based off of the ability to tax the community (and sometimes state depending on the constitution of the state). You can't tax people more and more to pay teachers, police, firemen, etc more and more because eventually people can't afford to live there. They will be taxed out of their homes.

    One of the reasons against public servant unions is that they can force the tax base into paying more and the tax base has no choice but to have the services. School is even more of an issue because kids are mandated by law to go to school. There is no law that I know of that says a community has to have a fire service or police force although they are absolutely necessary for an area to have one whether at the city or county level.
     
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    Good point, but when I see salaries only raise like $1,000 over 20 years or not at all, that’s just ridiculous. I’d wager that the people living in the area had regular salary increases, so why shouldn’t the teachers and other public servants in that municipality? There shouldn’t be exhorbitant increases as that would be untenable for the very reason you mentioned, but how about something at all?
     
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    That is where you would be wrong. In most industries and professions, in the last decade, people have had raises go down to nothing, next to nothing, or even had wages slashed. The last 10 years or so have not been good to people's pocketbook.
     
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    It’s not a pay freeze. I didn’t explain it well. On the salary scale, there are ranges of years experience after year 20. I don’t expect to see another jump on the scale until I retire.

    As far as pay, My salary isn’t low for here. I’m making more than most in the community. With the cost of living in our community, I could easily support myself on my salary alone, and I even supported two adults for years. With my DH and I both teaching, we are doing quite well.
     
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    ^
    I agree that it depends on cost of living! Teachers in my state make 80-90K after about 8 years of teaching but we have a very high cost of living.
     
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    It makes me chuckle when I think that those of us in the little ol' Central Valley make the same (if not more) than what they're earning in Los Angeles/San Diego. We're a hidden gem.
     
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    I've thought about going to a district like this for a few years when I'm nearing retirement so that I can max out my pension.
     
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    My sister served a religious mission in I believe the central Valley area. She says she's in love with it.
     
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    Interesting discussion. Just remember that money isn't everything. Eventually most of us learn that time is a more valuable component than money. It has a way of slipping away. While I appreciate what money can provide, I appreciate more that I can spend time doing things instead of just commuting.
     

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