Teachers in Oklahoma

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  1. YoungTeacherGuy

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    I watched this video and was saddened. Then, I looked up their salaries and completely understood. Educators in that state are grossly underpaid.

    Out of curiosity, I looked up their salary schedule for APs and Ps. APs in the district I looked up make less than a very first year teacher in my district.

    I understand why these people are leaving in droves. I hope they're content in their new careers. I can't imagine not being an educator, though. My heart breaks for them.
     
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    As a former educator, I found the video to be gut-wrenching to watch. I completely understand the teachers' decisions to leave the profession. I had no guilt feelings after abandoning a sinking ship comprised of 136 schools.
     
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    These are some of the lousiest salary schedules I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen plenty. And in my case, I made more when I started teaching 4 years ago in CA than teachers with 22+ years experience in OK... That’s inconceivable.

    How do teachers do it there?! I would have quit and moved out of state before the first semester if I discovered my salary was basically frozen for my ENTIRE career. Ridiculous.
     
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    This is so sad. I will make more as a first year teacher in my state than a teacher with 21 years of experience in OK.
     
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    Wow - just went and looked - after our two negotiations these last two years, after 4 years and yet to get my Masters, I'm significantly higher than the highest possible pay there. Wow...
     
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    How do they retain good teachers? I’m floored. I made more as a first year teacher than a teacher at the highest possible pay scale.
     
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    My pay would get cut more than $30k if I went to that district.
     
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    Our starting salary for a BA is higher than the ending salary of a doctorat :confused:
     
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    That video makes my heart hurt for those poor teachers. The salary scales is awful!
     
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    The salaries are pitiful, but I was also curious about cost of living... Houses are way cheaper. Here's a decent starter home for $62,000. A not so decent fixer upper could be had for around 40k or less. I'd be be taking a definite pay cut moving there, but my ability to pay bills might remain about the same. My salary is not great either though.

    I feel really bad for those teachers. It is awful to leave a career you care about not because you stop caring, but because you feel undervalued and can't make ends meet.
     
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    They don't. Those featured in the video are probably following many others who have already left in droves. Unfortunately, Oklahoma is not alone having been ranked 47th in Education Week's recent state comparison.
     
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    Pretty soon the kids are gonna be teaching themselves!

    I make more with a specialist with my years experience than someone with a doctorate in OK. When MS is paying more, you know your state doing is bad!!!!
     
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    Here is the 2017-18 and 2018-19 (with the increase a result of the protests/ walk out) salary schedules for my last district. It's still kind of sad.
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    Teachers in Arizona really don't make any money. In addition, the schools also don't put a lot of funding so there's not many resources or even the appropriate staff either.
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    Exactly why administration came into my mind my first year. If I'm staying in education, I'm certainly going to make it worth my time.
     
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    What’s 301?
     
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    I’m in OK. As far as real estate/housing goes, it’s regional. In my area, it’s high. A tiny appt in a decent part of town runs about $900-$1000. Houses built in the 80s (in need of updating/repairs) in decent neighborhoods go for $140,000 - $150,000. A couple of towns over, it’s a different story.
     
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    Interesting. In my area of NJ, rents for a one bedroom/studio are double your rents and houses go for three times your home values for anything decent. Less than that is a fixer upper. My salary doesn’t go very far in that regards and I feel stuck renting (even though I make way more than the max salary on that OK scale). It’s very hard if not impossible to save without taking in another job or tutoring a ton. It’s absurd.
    I’ve been looking into other careers.
     
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    I'm worried too because the salaries in my state are good, but we have a very high cost of living. I am at least grateful that our pay raises every year are quite good compared to states like OK.
     
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    Just posted that info because it’s tiring having people think it’s okay that OK teachers are paid crap because our cost of living is so “low.” Like I said, it depends on the area.

    ETA: I’m NOT referring to anyone on this thread making that generalization. :) It’s just that I’ve heard it a ton since the walkout started in April, and now with the referendum petition. When I hear that phrase, I get a little worked up. :(
     
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    Even though this is about Oklahoma, it just reaffirmed my belief in moving from Michigan to a better state. Charter/private schools have ruined entire school districts. Michigan has the 5th highest charter school student enrollment in the country. Teacher pay has plummeted. For example, preschool teachers (fully qualified with degrees and various certifications) starting pay (and don't count of raises due to salary freezes) is now $9.40 per hour. That is only 0.15 cents more than the minimum wage. :(
     

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