Students Harassed Me

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  1. Ms.Holyoke

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    I was walking to my car after school yesterday when I passed a group of students. I teach some of them and a few I didn’t recognize. I heard one say, “it’s ms.xxx” I said hi and walked away. As I walked away, I heard a kid yelling “F*** you, Ms.XXX” and “b****.” It was crazy. I just walked away because I knew the kid or kids would run away if I tried to approach them. I am pretty sure the kid yelling was not one that I teach. I wrote it up as a document report and my VP emailed and asked if I remembered more names because she wants to follow up with the kids. Another teacher saw the same group and recognized another kid. I am still shocked that this happened, especially since I teach younger kids.
     
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  3. Joyful!

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    I'm sorry that happened to you.
     
  4. ChildWhisperer

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    Sorry that happened to you.
    That's normal at my school.
    Imagine a 1st grader punching you in the stomach and calling you B!+¢#, but all you do is sigh and call the office because it's not as bad the 4th grader bringing in her mom's used needle and stabbing you with it.
     
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  5. otterpop

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    Oh good gravy! The things teachers have to deal with...
    I'm sorry that happened as well. It is fortunate your VP is willing to address it however he/she is able.
     
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    Wow
     
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    Right?! Luckily, I was only punched and called B, it was another teacher that got stabbed by a student. She never came back / finished the year.
     
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    Wow! I can’t believe the stories I’m hearing. The worst I’ve had was a student saying “Fxxx off” under their breath or as they are being sent out the room. I’ve never had a kid cuss at me to my face and I teach 15 year olds.
    I’m so sorry that happened to you. It’s hard not to take it personally but don’t. You’ve done your job and that’s about all you can control.
     
  9. Upsadaisy

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    It is shocking to me that this seems to be the status quo these days. I'm so sorry you had to face this rude and hateful behavior and that it was directed at you. What a sad state we are in. Glad I am retired.
     
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    That's horrible. I'm so sorry. I'm just waiting for one of my 2nd graders to hit me......they've done just about everything else. :(
     
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    Thankfully, this is not the norm everywhere -- so much depends on the school culture and community, and admin's commitment to upholding discipline. I have taught at schools where it is the norm, and I have experienced similar verbal abuse (never physical, though!). I have been at my school for five years now, and have never once felt as if I was being harassed by students. There are still such places out there, although it does seem they are becoming rarer...
     
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    They are becoming rarer? I'm happy but surprised to hear that. I worked in such a protected, small environment that a student saying 'shut up' was extreme!
     
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    I'm sorry you had to go through this. I teach second graders at a Prek-8 school, and these situations are normal here. For some reason, the older students think of themselves as gangsters and try to act like it (swearing, committing vandalism, threatening violence). I sometimes look at my kids and think about what they will be like ten years into the future. I have learned to just ignore it. This "change" seems to start in fourth grade and spirals out of control in the higher grades. Fortunately, I teach second grade so I am still able to control them.
     
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    Just when you think only your district is screwed up.....
     
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    I'm going to really think about leaving the district.
     
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    Wow, that would be inexplicably hurtful. Recently, (sorry, I teach adults who at times act worse or same as children) I had a student mocking me; telling another student I was "stupid" and that I made a lot of mistakes. (I mentioned an incorrect page number); she just would not stop and the negativity was filling the room like toxic gas. Also, her being an adult (not public school or course) I had to think carefully and quickly about how to address this. She did not like being called out of the room; but either way- it was going to be awkward for the both of us. It was so bad that others were uncomfortable so I did not feel waiting after class would be appropriate. She continued to go off on me in the room I walked her too. No matter how I tried to calm her as in, "Listen, if there is anything I am saying to you that you find offensive; please let me know as that is never my intention". Geez, I don't know. Since she was/is an adult who is in a probationary program- I felt a bit of anger in me quell up and really had to reign it in. Trying to keep the emotion out of it. We know it is about the other person acting out - but yea, still doesn't feel good to hear that. Really sorry you had to hear that what I refer to as "verbal violence". What I failed to mention is that a group of students conducting themselves that way makes me shudder.
     
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    My entire career was spent in an environment like many here have described. I was hit more times than I can count, had a lit M-80 thrown at me, regularly cursed out, saw a computer teacher take a punch square in the face - sustain a broken jaw - he later told us the principal would charge him (the teacher) with job abandonment if he missed more than 3 days for medical treatment, and other things too numerous to mention. The worst was when there was a drive-by shooting at dismissal one afternoon (I observed it from a 3rd floor office and saw the kids diving behind the bushes) and after security called out over the radio "Shots fired! Shots fired! Call 9-1-1!," the principal burst on the radio countering, "Oh, you mean that car back-firing? No one call 9-1-1!" The principal's sole interest was in not attracting the attention of the central office or getting bad publicity in the newspaper.

    Unfortunately, I see it spreading around here, further and further out from the city.

    Leadership/Administrators are focused soley on the enforcing the "C.Y.A" policy for themselves and decline to perform their actual job of supporting the staff. They've even gone to the extent of intenionally giving poor observation scores (under that "Danielson Model") to excellent teachers because they've written up (what I consider) justifiable disciplinary reports in an effort to maintain some sense of classroom managment.
     
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    No kidding; It's look the other way these days - Excuse me teach while I cause this person Bodily Injury.
     
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  19. Master Pre-K

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    This is why I don’t like working in certain neighborhoods. When he gets to that point, you almost want to get an escort to walk you to your car.

    Could be some pre-teen double dare, gang initiation garbage. Either way it’s a threat and threats need to be addressed. Next time I would pull out my phone to say “oh I’m recording this”, but don’t be so bold if you don’t have a back up plan. Some of them are very, very bad decision makers and they might snatch the phone out your hand. I will just slowly start backing up and walk back to the building. Don’t respond. Have somebody walk with you next time I’ll park closer to the door if possible.
     
  20. futuremathsprof

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    Is this the new norm in public schools? My goodness. If a student struck me in the mouth with the intention to cause me bodily harm, then they would find my fist colliding with their face faster than they could say mathematics. You are allowed to defend yourself and I would absolutely not tolerate being hit by a student or anyone else.
     
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    Nope, not the norm if you find a school in a community that values education.

    If that ever happened to me, while I wouldn't ever risk hitting a student back, I would surely litigate the matter.
     

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