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  1. cheer

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    Ok I m an elementary teacher with a son who is in high school. He has been accused of hijacking and changing an admin password.(there is another student who is also being accused) Keep in mind the school has not talked to myself or my husband at all. My son states that he did not hack anything. I know kids lie but the schools only proof is that he was signed in on that computer around the same time. Dont forget they're not sure who did it. First off, if you were going to hack, would you sign in?? Second, how can you accuse someone because they were logged in around the time it happen?? I guess if there is a crime and you happen to be on the same block as the crime then you must have done it?? This whole thing has got me angry. What happen to innocent until proven guilty? The fact they had him sit in a room for 6 hours to write down his account of the story and then no one talked to him. Sounds like an in school suspension to me? Shouldn't I have been contacted? They are thinking of suspending him from school and when he returns, he will no longer be allowed on the computers. HMMM? His career field is computers, what will he do for the rest of the year? Let me know what you all think
     
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  3. MikeTeachesMath

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    Oh man does this bring me back to my high school days :lol:. We had a 1:1 program and the students always seemed to be two steps ahead of Laptop Central.

    Anyway, if he was signed in on the same computer around the same time, then yes, there's a chance he did it. A pretty good chance actually.

    Depending on how the system works, you might HAVE to sign in to even access ANYTHING. Hacking doesn't happen out of thin air... there are procedures that have to be followed to get to the exploits.

    You saying this being like being on the same block as a crime is sort of inaccurate. If he was simply in the same computer lab as the computer that did the hacking, that would be a little more accurate.

    I think you need to get their full story, as well as your son's. When I was in high school, the computers tracked our every move. Hopefully yours do too.
     
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    Is your son 18 yet? My sister had some issues with my niece and the school claimed that they couldn't contact her without her daughter's permission because she was 18...Not sure how true this is though.

    I would definitely be heading into that school tomorrow morning to talk with the principal. I think that a 6 hour writing down account is just too long and should count as part of a punishment. I would want to hear what the principal has to say and hear their proof. After that I would make my decision of where to contact next.
     
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    I can't wait to get the full story. I will be calling the school tomorrow. If its as clear cut as you say... Why are they accusing another student? They don't know who did it. My son did find out that the new password that was created was the same as the student IT' s user name. Weird! That student was on that computer too. My son may have done it, I'm not one of those parents, but there are other people who were on the computer too, "around"the same time. Too many variables to pin it on one kid. They better have concrete proof if they want to suspend him. That will go on his perm. Record which may hurt his chances for college. They better be **** sure.
     
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    If he was one of only two students logged in that particular computer at the time this all went down, then it sure seems like one of two probably did it.

    I'd have a SERIOUS talk with my son. Then contact the school.
     
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    If he logged in under his account, and then let his friend do the hacking, he was still an accessory. He could try to plea ignorance but that depends on what he's told them.
     
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    But they're not. They have narrowed it down to two likely offenders. Again, I'd have a come to Jesus moment with my child.
     
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    He is not 18. I thought of that when I was trying to figure out why I haven't been contacted yet. By the way.. The hacking happen over a month ago. It's just now coming to light, I don't know why. Also nothing got stolen or manipulated. I just want answers.
     
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    We have had that moment. If its down to 2 then do you suspend them both because you can't figure it out? Knowing one of them didn't do it? There is going to be 3 kids who are suspect by tomorrow. See pure crazy.
     
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    Sorry they were logged on at different times. Not being held as accessory but a second prospective suspect.
     
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    I'll ask him about that.
     
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    How do you know there will be a third accused tomorrow?

    The school should have contacted you, but I'd really wait to speak to an adult about this to get a clearer picture of what has happened and their plans.
     
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    Kids were talking today when they saw my son in the office. It's all hear say but that student should be put through the same procedure my son has. The new admin code was Atka when the students heard that they said oh that's johns user name. So John needs to be questioned too.
     
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    But I thought the second person accused was the one who had the same password as the new one entered for the administrator? Well, whatever the case, speak with them tomorrow and get all of your questions answered and concerns heard. Hope it all works out! :)
     
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    Update

    I had a meeting today with the head of discipline. They are not sure who did it. They did not contact me because it was still under investigation. It did look suspicious for my son and another student but its unclear as to who did it. It could have been the IT guy (student) who has been in trouble before. So
    it sounds like nothing will happen. The teacher has been saying things and using scare tactics to try and get him to confess. she wasnt suppose to talk about it at all to anyone! I'm now worried that the teacher will never treat him fairly because he has not always acted nicely about this situation. he is hot tempered and did not handle the accusations well. I wish he could move to another class but there isn't one.
     
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    I would make sure that missing a day of classes isn't impacting his grades or anything.

    I would be very watchful of what goes on in this class and how your son is treated. You may want to encourage him to apologize to the teacher for any of his behaviors (not about hacking, but about anything he may have said or done). Hopefully the teacher will follow suit.
     
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    I am worried about it. The teacher actually showed the class his email he sent to her. Where he said this situation is ********, (he got an inschool for that, which he deserves). The fact that the teacher did that shows a problem and also discipline guy wasn't sure he would get a fair shack because she wasn't getting what she wanted, a suspension.

    Not sure how to monitor it though.
     
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    Why would the teacher show the class his email?
     
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    Im not sure why she did that? Its hear say, but will be brought to someones attention tomorrow. this teacher is mad. he goes back Tues. We will see.
     
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    I would closely monitor his grades and talk with your son about his class (especially on days that he has this class).
     

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